Susan's Place Logo

News:

Please be sure to review The Site terms of service, and rules to live by

Main Menu

Where that come from?

Started by Ms. OBrien CVT, August 13, 2012, 11:55:33 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Ms. OBrien CVT

Everyday we use sayings that are common place.  But where did they come from and what is mean by that saying.

Here are a few:

Where did "Piss Poor" come from? Interesting history.

They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot.

And then once it was full it was taken and sold to the tannery...

if you had to do this to survive you were "Piss Poor".
But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot...

They "didn't have a pot to piss in" and were the lowest of the low.

The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature
Isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be.

Here are some facts about the 1500's

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May,

And they still smelled pretty good by June.. However, since they were starting to smell,
brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.

Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water.

The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water,

Then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children.

Last of all the babies.

By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.
Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath.

It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals
(mice, bugs) lived in the roof.

When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof.
Hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs."
There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house.

This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings

Could mess up your nice clean bed.

Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection.

That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt.

Hence the saying, "Dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery
In the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing..

As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door,
It would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way.
Hence: a thresh hold.

(Getting quite an education, aren't you?)

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.

Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables
And did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers
In the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day.

Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while.

Hence the rhyme:

"Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old."
Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special.

When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off.

It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon."

They would cut off a little to share with guests

And would all sit around and chew the fat.

Those with money had plates made of pewter.

Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death.

This happened most often with tomatoes,
so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status..

Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle,

and guests got the top, or the upper crust.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky.
The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days..
Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.
They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around
and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up.

Hence the custom; "holding a wake."

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people.

So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave.

When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had ben burying people alive.
So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.

Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be,
"saved by the bell" or was "considered a dead ringer."

And that's the truth.

Now, whoever said history was boring!!!

If you know of any, post them here.

And we all can get an education.

  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
  •  

Beth Andrea

LOL! That was very interesting! Humorous, if I say so myself.

Copied-and-pasted to my FB page...sharing the story!
...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
  •  

Ms. OBrien CVT

The origin of S.H.I.T.

Certain types of manure used to be transported (as everything was back then) by ship. In dry form it weighs a lot less, but once water (at sea) hit it. It not only became heavier, but the process of fermentation began again, of which a by-product is methane gas.

As the stuff was stored below decks in bundles you can see what could (and did) happen; methane began to build up below decks and the first time someone came below at night with a lantern. BOOOOM!

Several ships were destroyed in this manner before it was discovered what was happening.

After that, the bundles of manure where always stamped with the term "S.H.I.T" on them which meant to the sailors to "Ship High In Transit." In other words, high enough off the lower decks so that any water that came into the hold would not touch this volatile cargo and start the production of methane.

  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
  •  

Devlyn

  •  

Catherine Sarah

Thank you Janet,

That was just soooo amazing. I don't know how I've lived to this very day without knowing all that stuff. Particularly the "saved by the bell" stuff. Took some time to get myself off the floor from laughing so much. And in a relative short skirt; that's not a pretty sight.  ;D

You've excelled your self in its presentation. So here's one you may not of known.

The origin of being posh.

In the affluent days of sail, when the aristocracy of Britian would sail to the Mediterranean for their holidays, they would invariable suffer from heat exposure. Be it being sunburnt, through to heat stroke.

To mitergate the effects of the strong equatorial sun, those that could afford it would request to be cabined on the port side of the ship on the outbound journey, as this offered most protection and shade from the sun. Then change to the starboard side on the homeward leg. Hence the acronym Port Outer Starboard Home - POSH was derived.

The opposite would be true if you inadvertently or unfortunately sailed to BOSTON. You'd be SOPH    ;D   >:-)   But I only know of one soph person in Boston. Do you know any others?   :laugh:   :'(

Huggs
Catherine




If you're in Australia and are subject to Domestic Violence or Violence against Women, call 1800-RESPECT (1800-737-7328) for assistance.
  •  

Ms. OBrien CVT

Bigwig:

This term for an important person dates to the 18th century. It's a reference to the powdered wigs that men wore back then. Rich and important men would have larger, more expensive wigs, hence the term.

  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
  •  

Ms. OBrien CVT

Starboard:

Starboard has a simple and straightforward, if not particularly obvious to the modern speaker, origin. It comes from Old English stéorbord and is a combination of stéor, meaning steer, and bord, meaning the side of a ship or boat (also found in the modern overboard). On old ships the rudder or steering paddle would be on the right side of the ship. Hence the term.

Port:

Why port was chosen is not known for certain, but most believe, like in larboard, it is because the left-hand side of a ship was the side typically put next to the wharf. The word port could either refer to a harbor, or it can refer to the sense meaning a gate, after a passage cut into the side of the ship for the passage of people and cargo. If it is the first, the word comes from the Latin portus, meaning harbor. If the latter, it is from the Latin porta, meaning gate.

  
It does not take courage or bravery to change your gender.  It takes fear of living one more day in the wrong one.~me
  •  

Catherine Sarah

#7
 :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:  :eusa_clap:  :eusa_clap:  :eusa_clap:  :eusa_clap:  :eusa_clap:  :eusa_clap:

Thank you very much Ms. OBrien.

You have turned into an absolute mountain of wealth information and resources. How do you do it?

I'm looking forward to further snippets of "can't do withouts." Certainly makes for good conversations at the 4:00pm water cooler convention.

Huggs
Catherine




If you're in Australia and are subject to Domestic Violence or Violence against Women, call 1800-RESPECT (1800-737-7328) for assistance.
  •  


Beth Andrea

Quote from: Jamie D on August 18, 2012, 02:46:56 AM
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pis1.htm

Piss rich?

Well, imho, since neither the original story ("piss poor" originated in the medieval era) nor this link (post-WW2) cites evidence for the depth of their research, either one can be accepted "as opinion", not as evidence--or a challenge.

(Can you imagine anyone actually doing research for the express purpose of trying to find "piss poor" in mainstream and obscure manuscripts, going back as far as the invention of the printing press? I bet the gov't would give a grant to do so, though... ;) )

...I think for most of us it is a futile effort to try and put this genie back in the bottle once she has tasted freedom...

--read in a Tessa James post 1/16/2017
  •  

Padma

Quote from: Beth Andrea on August 18, 2012, 09:35:59 AM
"piss poor" in mainstream
Am I the only one who giggled at this point...? :)
Womandrogyne™
  •