QuotePs, you're not the only one who went to school

I don't understand why a request for a citation warrants a personal attack. I am in school and considering a minor in Gender Studies so I am interested in this stuff. The standard citation format for Internet forums is a simple link. I found some of your insights interesting although the claim

QuoteStart hrt, the "sir-ing" stops after a while

is highly questionable at best.

Most of the stuff we post here is based on our own personal experience so citations are not necessary but when people post things that are other people's opinions it is common Internet courtesy to provide a link. 

Quote...is highly questionable at best.

My comment about hrt/sir was based on my personal experience. Reading the before and after thread on this forum makes me think I'm not unique.

QuoteI don't understand why a request for a citation warrants a personal attack

Yeah. It wasn't really an attack. It was snarky though. Basically I just didn't like how you requested my source. It is also considered common Internet courtesy to say "please" when asking someone for something.

QuoteStart hrt, the "sir-ing" stops after a while.

There is no doubt that for some of us, especially if we are younger, after HRT, the "sirs" will diminish or maybe even cease but there are dozens of other factors that go into not getting misgendered beyond merely taking medication. (For instance, all the hormones in the world won't get rid of facial hair and facial hair detection almost guarantees getting sirred)

I have already reached the summit so it doesn't matter to me but making a statement like this might lead newbies to harbor unrealistic expectations.

Quotethis might lead newbies to harbor unrealistic expectations.

Well, its a good thing you're usually required to have realistic expectations of what hrt will do (via therapy or informed consent) before you start then, isn't it? Congratulations on your climb

A reminder, if a post offends you, or you consider a post an attack, please use the "Report to moderator" function. Thank you, Devlyn

I prefer to address obstreperous posts directly.

Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on September 07, 2012, 11:53:00 PM
I prefer to address obstreperous posts directly.

Honestly, you can be kind of harsh. I don't know why you get offended when somone points it out.

Somewhat along the lines of another post up here, I move between the EU and the US a few times a year.... I also present very androgynously, even though I've been on HRT for 3 years and am just recovering from SRS.... In the EU, there is a lot of neutrality, and I'm almost always not gendered either way to my knowledge. In the US, however, I get a heap of ma'ams even if I'm not trying at all. I also get a heap of sirs, but neither bother me... Cultural differences, language differences, or just one group better at clocking than the other...

Quote from: UCBerkeleyPostop on September 07, 2012, 11:53:00 PM
I prefer to address obstreperous posts directly.

Well, we insist that the Staff addresses these issues. If you feel attacked, report the post. Hugs, Devlyn

QuoteI prefer to address obstreperous posts directly.

Ok. Please understand this question is solely being asked out of intellectual curiosity but, are you misusing the word "obstreperous" or do you suffer from illusory superiority? Now, please understand that nothing im asking is a thinly veild insult, on the contrary, I'm quite certain your magnanimousness is matched only by your self admitted mastery of proverbial mountaineering.

QuoteI have already reached the summit so it doesn't matter to me

This statement I find particularly interesting. I wonder if you're aware of "The rules of the Internet"? The rule I'm specifically referring to is, of course, "Pics or it didn't happen".... unless of course it's only you that is allowed to demand evidence from people's forum posts? ( if this is in fact the case, please refer to my previous question regarding illusory superiority)
In the past, you've mentioned you enjoy polemic writing, Me too they're playing our song xox

Can you two take your polemic musicfest to private message, please? I don't think as many of our members and guests enjoy it as much as you think they do. Thank you, Devlyn