1984 Apple ad turned into an Anti-Hillary Ad

[Brianna]

RID class 4. MILI.

Bri

[Attis]

Translation, please. 

-- Bridget

[RebeccaFog]

That's fine. We respect all views here at Susans. I read a lot about people like you, and why you come to the conclusion both parties are equally bad while getting my polisci degree - so I won't try to argue.

I will say no Democrat ever started a war crime based off a pack of lies.

Bri

Hi,

    Isn't every war a crime?   Honestly, to me, just the act of holding a weapon is a crime against humanity. I'm not joking. This is how I feel.


Regards,

Rebecca

[Brianna]

I supose that depends on if you beleive in Just War Theory - which is just a theory. I don't, especially - but many wars are worse than others.

In my opinion there is no justification, no historical analogy, no play on words, no minimization, no convinient delusion, NOTHING that can remotly justify what the American Republicans have done in Iraq. I hope the genocided souls of the 650,000 visit every single Republican and make them feel what their hubris has caused.

Bri

[RebeccaFog]

I supose that depends on if you beleive in Just War Theory - which is just a theory. I don't, especially - but many wars are worse than others.

In my opinion there is no justification, no historical analogy, no play on words, no minimization, no convinient delusion, NOTHING that can remotly justify what the American Republicans have done in Iraq. I hope the genocided souls of the 650,000 visit every single Republican and make them feel what their hubris has caused.

Bri

   I agree with that.
   The republicans are backed by war machine corporations. They are making blood money from this disgusting war. I can't separate the corporations from the war anymore. It really does matter how you spend your money because it is all connected. I can't wait until corporate criminals have to pay thier dues just like the street rapists and murderers do.


Rebecca

[Brianna]

I can't wait until corporate criminals have to pay thier dues just like the street rapists and murderers do.

I could not agree more passionately or more strongly. You go go.

Bri

[Omika]

Double true.

~ Blair

[Thundra]

Blair,

what happs to the other avatar?

She is hot.  Reminds me of a gal I used to work with several years ago.

I look forward to seeing her pic. Could you bring 'er back??

[Omika]

But I really, really like this drawing, Thundra.

~ Blair

[ChildOfTheLight]

That's fine. We respect all views here at Susans. I read a lot about people like you, and why you come to the conclusion both parties are equally bad while getting my polisci degree - so I won't try to argue.

I will say no Democrat ever started a war crime based off a pack of lies.

Bri

Lyndon Johnson did, certainly.  And Vietnam killed many more on both sides than Mr. Bush's war in Iraq -- not that this justifies either of them.

As I have pointed out, Paul has opposed this war from the beginning and at every step.  I don't understand how you can lump him in with Bush and his kind.

I don't know how Attis feels, but I don't feel very respected when I'm accused of being "in the thrall of Lucifer" and dismissed as "people like you."  Have you been there, perhaps?

[Brianna]

I respect all people in the forums. But my opinions don't include much symapthy for the party that gets elected by denying gay people rights.

Really, ChildofLight. It's cool. Vote for who you want. Hail Republicans, I'll give you a cheery mazel tov. I'm really not going to try to change your mind. My polisci degree has shown me science to prove it's useless to even try.

But I have no tolerance, no acceptance, no compassion, nothing for the republican party right now. Conservative estimates show that Republicans have enabled the genocide of 650,000. It's not partisanship, it's mass murder for a drunkard former cocaine adict and sociopath.

And it's not just Bush that has led to this mess. It's the ideas of that party. I really do think they're evil and their philosophy is murderous and selfish. And I really do think the people that vote for them are enabling a war crime. It gets me so angry to think about what they are doing.

If you can't agree with me on that, it's cool. But let's not try to debate it, either - because I'm not going to have my mind changed.

Bri

Ps- The reason I feel so strongly about this is I used to be one of you - and then it hit me one day that I was supporting something very evil.

[ChildOfTheLight]

We're arguing about nothing as far as the undeclared war in Iraq goes -- it looks to me like we're on the same side.  I agree that it needs to end, and I do not want those who started it to continue to govern.  No one of any party, as far as I have seen, wants to try to establish a democratic and limited government in Iraq -- if they want to keep the military there, they want to make a puppet government with a puppet dictator, no better than Saddam Hussein, but nominally on the side of the US, just like Hussein was for a long time. 

I don't know why I ever thought that it would be any other way, but I haven't thought that for a long time.

As for Ron Paul, I do not support him because he is a Republican -- in fact, I support him precisely because he is not like other Republicans.  I do not know of another Republican politican that I would vote for.  If not for him, I would probably be supporting some third-party candidate, most likely a Libertarian, in this election.

That is all.

[Attis]

Ron Paul is a former Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate and party member. He selected Republican, I believe, to get elected. So that's just what the R is for, to get included into the little circle of D and R.

-- Bridget

[ChildOfTheLight]

Ron Paul is a former Libertarian Party Presidential Candidate and party member. He selected Republican, I believe, to get elected. So that's just what the R is for, to get included into the little circle of D and R.

-- Bridget

Correct.

[RebeccaFog]

    My opinion on why the Republican party seems so cruel and evil is that they are ruled by their fears and other irrationalities. For some reason, they attract a lot of people who have fears of one kind or another.

    Fear that brown people coming in from mexico are going to hurt us.
    Fear of other people's sexuality
    Fear of their own sexuality
    Fear of other people's gender identification
    Fear that they will 'lose' all they have to the forementioned people.
    Fear that they will have no say or power.
    Fear of social change within the world.
    Fear of economical change.
    Fear of other religions
    Fear of tolerance
    Fear of mederation
    Fear of being 'unsuccessful'
    Fear of redefining themselves in a meaningful way
    Fear of losing their european roots even though they shout "we're Americans"
    Fear of foreign ideas
    Fear of the God they worship
    Fear that all gains for other groups means that they will obtain some kind of loss
    Fear that if they don't collect money that they are worthless
    Fear that they will be redefined by others or become irrelevent as a group

   My personal belief is that there is a deficit within the personal evolution of a number of people's characters or minds.   These people react to most problems with irrational and unjustified actions that are fueled by fear and insecurity.  They will become brutal and cruel not only when they are cornered, but if they feel that they can get away with it.

   I swear that I can sense many types of souls in people. The ones most mystifying are those of republicans and republican types. I sense scared animals in them. Either a part of thier brains do not work or they never attempt to use the part that is rational and loving. Most people have souls that yearn to grow, but a lot of these 'people' who are in government positions now, are seriously stunted.

   And now, for the list that makes me believe what I wrote above.

   Attorney General Alberto Gonzales fires a bunch of people and lies about it. Why. What's wrong with truth?

   Bush lies about Iraq.

   Bush lies about his own integrity before the 1999 election

   Karl Rove can't just sit if front of the Senate and speak the truth.  Why?

   Gays are forced out of the Military.

   Bush still thinks the world revolves around "taxes"

   Arnold Swharzenegger owns Humvees

   Enron steals from its own employees. Why?

   Halliburton thrives from the war.

   The auto companies which refuse to adapt or change help fund the ghastly war machine, but are laying people off and talking about shutting down as if the whole entire world revolves around them.




   Innovation is a swear word to to people who have the condition that I described above.


Sorry for the length, hope I was on topic in some way, I have to run,


Peace,


Rebecca

[Fer]

I don\'t really know much about her, but mind you I\'m not american. Personally I don\'t care who the next president of America is as long as they leave Britain and Denmark alone!!

[Attis]

Fer, you can't even get the EUcrats to leave member states alone. So I wouldn't worry about the next Prez, I got a feeling there won't be a next one... 

-- Bridget

[RebeccaFog]

I don\'t really know much about her, but mind you I\'m not american. Personally I don\'t care who the next president of America is as long as they leave Britain and Denmark alone!!

   Maybe Hillary and Obama and McCain, and all of the other Major Politicians in America can run in Europe. At least then Americans could have some peace and the odd people who run for office can see how they play in a foreign land.

   Oh, and we wouldn't allow any of them back into the U.S.A. because we'll have become a utopian socialist paradise   

Groovy

[Omika]

    My opinion on why the Republican party seems so cruel and evil is that they are ruled by their fears and other irrationalities. For some reason, they attract a lot of people who have fears of one kind or another.

    Fear that brown people coming in from mexico are going to hurt us.
    Fear of other people's sexuality
    Fear of their own sexuality
    Fear of other people's gender identification
    Fear that they will 'lose' all they have to the forementioned people.
    Fear that they will have no say or power.
    Fear of social change within the world.
    Fear of economical change.
    Fear of other religions
    Fear of tolerance
    Fear of mederation
    Fear of being 'unsuccessful'
    Fear of redefining themselves in a meaningful way
    Fear of losing their european roots even though they shout "we're Americans"
    Fear of foreign ideas
    Fear of the God they worship
    Fear that all gains for other groups means that they will obtain some kind of loss
    Fear that if they don't collect money that they are worthless
    Fear that they will be redefined by others or become irrelevent as a group

   My personal belief is that there is a deficit within the personal evolution of a number of people's characters or minds.   These people react to most problems with irrational and unjustified actions that are fueled by fear and insecurity.  They will become brutal and cruel not only when they are cornered, but if they feel that they can get away with it.

   I swear that I can sense many types of souls in people. The ones most mystifying are those of republicans and republican types. I sense scared animals in them. Either a part of thier brains do not work or they never attempt to use the part that is rational and loving. Most people have souls that yearn to grow, but a lot of these 'people' who are in government positions now, are seriously stunted.

   And now, for the list that makes me believe what I wrote above.

   Attorney General Alberto Gonzales fires a bunch of people and lies about it. Why. What's wrong with truth?

   Bush lies about Iraq.

   Bush lies about his own integrity before the 1999 election

   Karl Rove can't just sit if front of the Senate and speak the truth.  Why?

   Gays are forced out of the Military.

   Bush still thinks the world revolves around "taxes"

   Arnold Swharzenegger owns Humvees

   Enron steals from its own employees. Why?

   Halliburton thrives from the war.

   The auto companies which refuse to adapt or change help fund the ghastly war machine, but are laying people off and talking about shutting down as if the whole entire world revolves around them.




   Innovation is a swear word to to people who have the condition that I described above.


Sorry for the length, hope I was on topic in some way, I have to run,


Peace,


Rebecca

You are right on.

Humanity is currently a teenager approaching adulthood.  This teenager has a very large knife in its hands, and is dominated by conflicting emotions. 

Fear, however, is always our greatest enemy.  I intend to do something about it.

~ Blair