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Thank you. I know my wife is trying. We're all human. We try to give each other grace when having conversations that usually revolve around our own view or perception of the situation and how it makes us feel, but like I said it typically ends up with one or both of us feeling like we're being blamed for having those feelings... It is hard to disconnect and not take things personally especially when most of the conversations are basically like your actions or lack of, words or lack of etc make me feel like this, and from my point of view your actions or lack there of or words or lack there of make me think and feel this...

And again I know it's nothing personal, we are both trying to express our feelings and our truth and perception of any given situation we found ourselves in, but usually we both end up getting defensive trying to explain why we did or didn't do, or said or didn't say what ever it was.

Anyways. I know we have always had communication problems even before we married. And unfortunately I saw it as a red flag. But chose to ignore it. Now we're married and can't communicate well...we are growing and learning, but it's definitely taking time to mature enough to realize when the other is just talking and only needs the other to listen, and not respond.

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Quote from: Robbyv213 on November 13, 2025, 03:58:19 PMrealize when the other is just talking and only needs the other to listen, and not respond.

That is profound. You are wiser than you think.
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I've always been fascinated by the notion that one person can make another person feel a particular way. Are we really that easily manipulated? If I control your emotions, who controls mine?

I just don't think it works like that. When *I feel*, I am the one doing the feeling; nobody is doing that to me. Yes, I often have feelings about things other people say and do, but those feelings are mine, and I'm allowing them. I have a choice about feeling them at all, and I certainly have a choice about whether or not to give credit to someone else for inducing them.

For me, it's more than a choice about language. It's a personal responsibility thing. What happens in my mind is mine to govern. Some days I'm better at it than others.
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Robbyv213

Right. I have been reading a short book called the four agreements.

Basic premise is that nothing can affect your inner peace if you don't let it.

Makes the Assumption that everything is based on an agreement. From words to actions etc. We all agree that words have specific definitions etc, we just accept it like many things because we are taught it from childhood with reward or punishment type behavioral programming.

Like many things we learn is off of reward or punishment, but if we don't make the initial agreement that what someone tells us is, then it doesn't have any power over us. 

I can't explain it as well as the book does, but that's the basic premise. A guide to inner peace, if you make 4 specific agreements with yourself, nothing in the world can affect your mind and inner peace.

Easier said than done that's for sure. Lol

Pema

Yes! I recommend Don Miguel Ruiz to anyone who'll listen!

So, when you write that letter, be impeccable with your word!

Robin, I've said this before, but you have everything you need. You only need to realize it and allow it to flow.

Carry on.
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Robbyv213

Hello everyone I'm just posting an update this week I start my vacation and yesterday I flew to Washington to pick my daughter up and we flew back same day so that she can come visit me in Arizona for a week. Luckily she does online schooling and so it shouldn't impact her schooling too much as long as she stays on top of it while she's here as well.

My mom and her husband or my step dad even though they didn't marry until after I was already grown up and moved out so it's kind of a weird situation I guess anyways my mom and her husband are coming to visit as well they're flying in today leaving Saturday and so this will be the first time in a really long time now my daughter and my mom are both in the same place visiting.

So it should be good it'll be a busy week my family is coming in this week next week my wife's family is coming in for Thanksgiving. We're going to try and do a family dinner Thanksgiving with my family here on Friday before everyone starts to leave and head back.

So that's kind of what's happening this week so odds are I won't be on much to post or give updates.

One thing I am looking for advice on is that I'm trying to determine when's the best time to tell my daughter that I'm trans. In recent conversations with her that have spanned over the last few months I've let her know that there has been stuff going on and things that I need to tell her in hopes that it might explain or help her see a little bit into my life more and why I haven't been as good as a father figure in her life since her mom and I got divorced.

For a while there it seemed like it was a lot easier for me and I was hoping that it would mean it would be less painful that if I just wasn't around it would be best for everyone. No don't get me wrong I've always sent child support birthday gifts Christmas gifts I've always tried to stay in contact through text or letters as much as possible and I've always tried to visit or have her come visit me for summer vacation or a week here or there.

But life happens and trauma happens and we get lost in it all in depression and everything and so we convince ourselves that maybe it's better that we're not involved as much support as much as we can from the background but just not being involved as much because let's face it there's not much I can do when I'm living in a different state from my child and my ex has final say on everything that happens in your life.

I've started to realize that I've made promises that I keep on going back on. I would always tell my daughter that I was going to one day move closer to her so I can be in her life everyday or at least have the option and possibility so that if she wanted I was always right there a car drive away. But unfortunately I've always chased love and romance trying to find answers and trying to I'm not even sure what I was trying to do if I was trying to affirm or confirm something in my life that if I finally found the right person in love in my life that I would finally love myself and if I was able to make that work then everything else wasn't necessarily true about myself. And so as each relationship ultimately came to an end I would find love and new romance that would keep me from my promise of moving closer to my daughter in hopes that this new romance or love would be able to I guess allow me to believe that I was a normal person but I just kept on repeating the same cycles in every relationship.

Now that I'm in my current marriage I'm trying to break cycles and it seems like the only way to break these cycles is by finally accepting myself for who I am and that is a trans woman but obviously that's most likely going to cause my current marriage and relationship to end.

Anyways with that long-winded story I feel like it's time or it's getting really close to the time where I should tell my daughter everything. And I'd rather do it in person than over text or a letter or video chat. So I was just wondering if everyone could share some advice to what they think I should do. I was potentially planning on talking with her while she was here this week. But my wife has concerns that we need to figure things out here at home before we let anybody else know especially since my ex my daughter's mother will probably have a field day with that information and cause a lot of damage socially for us and we're obviously not ready for that. So just looking for advice or suggestions has to what you guys think would be the best course of action.
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Robbyv213

I believe my daughter would be very accepting in the knowledge since she herself has identified as straight, bi and lesbian at different times in her life as she is growing and learning more about who she is.

She has many friends in person and online that are from all walks of life from within the LGBTQIA+ community. So I don't feel it would be an issue with her honestly.

I think it might be more of a internal conflict with her idea of who she has always thought me to be versus now who I'm telling her that I am. I feel most kids these days are generally accepting especially in the younger generations, but I guess it is different when it's someone very close and personal to you versus just someone that has become your friend.


Anyways I think telling her would also help explain my actions throughout these many years from always chasing this intangible thing be it whether a successful job or career or the idea of what everyone thinks is a successful job or career from finding relationships and love that I thought would validate who I am but ultimately falls short because I haven't accepted myself and figured out how to love myself first.

She's such a free spirit and not afraid to try new things or be herself especially in public and at school she's faced more hardships from openly being herself to the world than most have already more than I have that's for sure and so she's one of my inspirations to always try to be myself in every situation and always try to choose the path of authenticity and show up authentic in the world as much as possible.

I don't necessarily know what I'm going to say or have anything planned but I basically want to try and have a talk with her some point this week while she's here and let her know what's been going on with me all this time and that hopefully it's an explanation as to why I'm done what I've done. I know it's not an excuse or and I know it won't make up for things at all but at least it's closure in a sense.

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Holiday time with family seems like a two-edged sword. Good to reunite with loved ones, spend time together, but also plenty of opportunity for drama.

If you and your daughter get to spend some time alone (go for a drive or something), you can still tell her how you feel, apologize for things, but not actually come out as trans yet. You are just firming up the bond, so that later, at a more appropriate time, you can give her more details, including that you are transgender. For now, I would leave it at you are trying to do better and you are working on some things, but now is not the time to explain. Let her know that she will get the details, but first, you have things that need to be taken care of before that can happen.

I would give a lot of thought to the idea of moving closer to her. If that is something that may happen, is something you want, how does she feel about that? What if you come out as trans to her, and suddenly she is not happy about you being nearby? I certainly hope that is not the case, but you need to consider her wishes too. And her wishes may not be apparent if she is just expressing what your ex is telling her. It is a complex situation, and you are right to give it plenty of thought.

In my opinion, family get-togethers are the prime environment for gossip, so I avoid them, or bite holes in my lip trying to remain silent. Revealing things of this nature is better suited for private one-on-one discussions where there is a better chance for people to absorb the information without a bunch of gossipy input from others. Once they have the information, even if sworn to secrecy, there is a chance that this new information will color their discussions with others. You will know these people better than I, so the route you take would be best for you, rather than what I would suggest.

I know you are in a hurry to get moving again, and that includes coming out to family. Just take a look at the Big Picture to figure out when is the right time is.

Good luck, and try to enjoy the holiday time.
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I'm not a fan of advice. It's nearly impossible for anyone to know what is truly the right choice for another person. From what you've written, it sounds like you have the pieces to work out what it is you really want to do.

This is what I heard you say:

Quote from: Robbyv213 on November 18, 2025, 01:12:31 PMover the last few months I've let her know that there has been stuff going on and things that I need to tell her

Quote from: Robbyv213 on November 18, 2025, 01:12:31 PMI feel like it's time or it's getting really close to the time where I should tell my daughter everything. And I'd rather do it in person than over text or a letter or video chat.

Quote from: Robbyv213 on November 18, 2025, 01:12:31 PMI've started to realize that I've made promises that I keep on going back on. I would always tell my daughter that I was going to one day move closer to her so I can be in her life everyday or at least have the option and possibility so that if she wanted I was always right there a car drive away.

Quote from: Robbyv213 on November 18, 2025, 01:25:04 PMI think telling her would also help explain my actions throughout these many years

Quote from: Robbyv213 on November 18, 2025, 01:25:04 PMI basically want to try and have a talk with her some point this week while she's here and let her know what's been going on with me all this time

Quote from: Robbyv213 on November 18, 2025, 01:25:04 PMI believe my daughter would be very accepting

Quote from: Robbyv213 on November 18, 2025, 01:12:31 PMmy wife has concerns that we need to figure things out here at home before we let anybody else know

Quote from: Robbyv213 on November 18, 2025, 01:12:31 PMunfortunately I've always chased love and romance trying to find answers and trying to I'm not even sure what I was trying to do if I was trying to affirm or confirm something in my life that if I finally found the right person in love in my life that I would finally love myself

Quote from: Robbyv213 on November 18, 2025, 01:12:31 PMI'm trying to break cycles and it seems like the only way to break these cycles is by finally accepting myself for who I am and that is a trans woman but obviously that's most likely going to cause my current marriage and relationship to end

Quote from: Robbyv213 on November 18, 2025, 01:25:04 PMshe's one of my inspirations to always try to be myself in every situation and always try to choose the path of authenticity and show up authentic in the world as much as possible.

What does your heart tell you is the right thing for you to do?

As someone who lives in Western Washington, I can tell you that it's a very LGBTQIA+-friendly environment. You'd be very welcome here.

As india.arie says:
"I found
Strength, courage, and wisdom
It's been inside of me all along"


You know who you are, Robin. It's not just OK; it's fantastic.

Love,
Pema
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