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Courtney G

I've started this thread in the hope that folks can refer to it while considering facial feminization surgery procedures. I completed the first phase of my FFS just two weeks ago and there are several things I wish I'd known prior to going in, things I'd like to share with others. If they see fit to do so, perhaps the mods might use this info for an FAQ on the subject.

NOTE/DISCLAIMER: the info in this thread does not constitute medical advice. We aren't advocating for or against procedures but simply looking to share anecdotal information. Always consult a medical professional prior to considering any surgery and always defer to the advice and instructions provided by your surgeon. Your experience may vary, so please know that one size does not fit all.

At just under 2 weeks out of phase one of two phases of FFS, I can tell you that it has been a life-changing experience so far. The ability to transform one's face in order to help alleviate gender dysphoria is a gift which has been placed within the reach of more trans folks than ever.

Posts here can't be edited a certain period of time after they've been posted, so I'll try to write this in modules, although it would be much easier for me to outline my thoughts, then pop back here and add to them as things occur to me, so I'm going to do the best I can. I'll provide headings for reference and possible future editing.

Off the top of my head, the headings I'll start with will include:

Part 1: Identifying areas of need, plus current surgical conventions for creating a more feminine look

Part 2: Choosing a surgeon
2a: Current political climate's affect on practitioners
2b: Waitlists
2c: Insurance coverage and other financial options

Part 3: Surgical consultation: what to expect, what to look for, what to ask for

Part 4: Planning for surgery
4a: Recovery needs - time and resources
4b: Care needs - surgery and recovery logistics
4c: Family and friends - what do I tell them?
4d: FFS checklist - preparations and useful items (including food)

Part 5: The procedure and initial recovery
5a: Will it hurt? What to expect.
5b: Day 1 recovery
5c: Day 2 recovery
5d: Day 3 recovery
5e: Day 4 and beyond
5f: General incision (scar) care and considerations

6: Swelling and shrinking: when will I start to look more like a woman?

7: Follow-up procedures

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Facial feminization surgery: March 4th, 2026

Courtney G

I think I'll create posts as "notes" here that might be later written into the main post here. This will allow me to throw stuff in here as it occurs to me without worrying about writing things in order or trying to edit the original post.

Part 1: Identifying areas of need, plus current surgical conventions for creating a more feminine look

My surgeon's office had me fill out a questionnaire. Included was a drawing of a human face, with instructions to circle the areas I liked and the areas I wanted to change and to provide an explanation as to why I felt that way. I focussed on my eyes, my chin/jaw and my lips in no particular order.

I was a bit surprised when my surgeon explained that it's the upper third of a face that most strongly signals gender. He said that studies have shown that the more recessed forehead, softer, higher brow and lower hairline of cis females strongly sends a message to the brains of others that the person they're seeing is female.

I left his office a little surprised, but subsequent research into the suggestions of other surgeons revealed the same: give serious consideration to that upper third, as it will change perceptions of your gender. In my case, I had my forehead re-contoured, my orbital bones shaved and had a brow lift and was able to pass as female six days after surgery while wearing a face mask. The person saw me as a woman by seeing my face from the bridge of my nose up.

Of course, YMMV and your surgeon might have a different plan, but I wanted to prepare you for the unexpected benefits of forehead/eye work.

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Courtney G

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4d: FFS checklist

Food items:
Mashed potatoes
Mac 'n cheese
Pudding
Applesauce
Yogurt drinks - priobiotic drinks will be useful when consumed between doses of antibiotics as they can help to replace beneficial gut bacteria.
JELLO: I wish I'd had more of this. It's much easier to manage gelatin in your mouth than "stickier" foods, as the jello slides down your throat without leaving a mess behind. You must realize that if your mouth is numb and full of sutures, you won't be able to properly clean behind/around your gums using your tongue, and you can't really rinse and spit water for rinsing.

Get some narrow spoons, preferably plastic. You won't be able to open your mouth as easily or as wide. The narrow spoons will help a lot.

An insulated tumbler is a must. Keep it filled with ice and fresh water 24/7 and you'll enjoy the benefit of lots of sips of refreshing, cold water. You'll need to hydrate.

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Stottie Girl

Thanks for doing this Courtney, I really appreciate it.

For me I think I will only go for the brow reshaping and hairline alteration. I have never had any male pattern baldness but when I looked at my hairline more closely I can see that it is different in shape to a more classically female pattern. Mine sort of cuts back a bit left and right of centre leaving a sort of widows peak. I just need a little bit of infilling left and right of centre. The front is low enough i think.

You'll notice all my profile pictures are taken face on. This is because of my brow line. It's not massive but it is definitely male and I hate to see it in pictures. Altering that is priority no 1 for me.

I feel my nose is pretty female. it looks very much like Charlottes new nose in her fantastic pictures. I don't believe I have a strong male jaw (underneath that god awful double chin!)

Hopefully this means I can keep costs down when I take the plunge.
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Charlotte Kitty

I'll put this here as we're mskimg notes!

I've made a few notes particularly about the types of procedure. Only a couple are real FFS specific types such as brow bone reduction and jaw shaping. Many of the others are quite common for general cosmetic reasons.

I had probably about as extreme brow overhang as you can get. I needed type 3 brow bone reduction so a large chunk of bone around the orbitals too was removed, reshaped and set back. A CT scan is a must and in my case computer modelling. This was the gamechanger for me. It also opens up the eye area so enhances prettiness. Extremely invasive though so as you know.

I'd also say in my case and probably most, you may as well get brow, temporal lifts and forehead reduction done as this area is being opened up anyway. Not gamechangers for feminization but they help!

As I understand it Rhinoplasty has very little evidence of effect on gender identification. All genders have all sorts of noses. For me I just wanted a cuter nose thats more typically feminine. My surgeon noted my smaller mouth proportionally would work better with a smaller nose so more a synergy thing. In my mind this is very much an optional procedure for your own personal reasons.

Im sure you've got bits to add or tweak. But that's my rationale.

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HRT April 25
FFS March 26
GRS Feb 27

Stottie Girl

Thank you for sharing as well. I was under the impression that the brow reduction and orbital changes were part of the same operation. I wasn't aware that they were spearate procedures. Useful to know. I do think that I want to re-model the orbitals too.
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Susan

Great thread, Courtney — and great additions from Charlotte and Stottie Girl. This is exactly the kind of resource I wish had existed when I was preparing for my own procedures. I want to add some things that haven't been covered yet, mostly around the recovery side that people tend not to think about until they're already post-op. None of this contradicts anything already shared here — think of it as filling in some gaps.

As always: follow YOUR surgeon's specific instructions over anything you read in this thread. Your experience will be unique to you.

Black eyes, bruising, and swelling — including eyes swelling shut

I want to be straightforward about this because nobody told me what to expect: you may wake up looking like you lost a prizefight. After forehead work, orbital shaving, or brow lifts, expect dramatic bruising around your eyes. Your face will cycle through a full spectrum of colors that first week — deep purple, blue, green, yellow — and all of it is normal.

Here's the part that really needs to be said: your eyes may swell completely shut. This happened to me. After my surgery the swelling was so severe that I couldn't see at all for most of the first day. My doctor came in and gently separated my eyelids, and after that I was able to see much better. It's just part of the process — your body is doing what bodies do after major surgery — but it's the kind of thing you want to know about ahead of time so you're not caught off guard.

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Here I am in the recovery room, right after surgery. Full compression bandages, oxygen mask, and all. It looks dramatic, but as you can see — thumbs up.

This happens because fluid and blood from forehead surgery travel downward with gravity and pool in the loose tissue around the eyes. Even if you didn't have any eyelid or orbital procedures done, you can still end up with significant eye swelling and bruising from the forehead work alone. The swelling typically peaks at 48-72 hours after surgery, so days 2 and 3 are usually the worst. Some people's eyes swell shut; others get severe puffiness but can still see. There's no reliable way to predict which you'll get, so plan for the possibility and make sure someone is with you.

What helps: Cold compresses in the first 24 hours are critical. Use them 15-20 minutes on, then off, as much as you can tolerate. Always put a cloth between the compress and your skin, especially since your face may be numb and can't tell you if something is too cold. Never use ice directly on the skin.

Keep your head elevated — gravity is either working for you or against you. Staying elevated helps fluid drain away from your face rather than pooling around your eyes. A recliner or wedge pillow is worth every penny.

Some surgeons prescribe a short course of corticosteroids to reduce inflammation, and others recommend Arnica montana (an over-the-counter herbal supplement used to reduce bruising and swelling — inexpensive and easy to find). Ask your surgeon about their protocol before surgery day.

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The color progression: Bruises around the eyes go through a predictable shift — purple to blue-green to yellow-brown — before fading. After forehead work, this typically takes about 2 weeks. After blepharoplasty, it can run 2-3 weeks. The bruising will almost always be asymmetrical — one eye looking worse than the other. That's normal, not a sign something went wrong. In my case I had black eyes for almost 2 weeks, but they were lighter and lighter each day.

Most of the major bruising and swelling resolves by about 10-14 days, which is when many people feel comfortable being seen in public again. Green-tinted concealer is great for the lingering discoloration once you're cleared for light makeup, usually around 7-10 days post-op.

Black eyes from facial surgery can take four to six weeks to fully clear, though the worst passes much sooner. Swelling decreases top-down — forehead and eyes first, then midface, then jaw and chin — so if you had upper face work, the eye area is actually one of the first regions to start improving.

That first day or two when you're swollen, bruised, and possibly unable to see can be rough emotionally. Post-surgical depression during this phase is very common — it's a physiological response to major surgery, not a sign you made a mistake. It passes. I wore a straw hat, kept my spirits up, and within days I was already seeing the woman I'd been waiting to see.

Swelling — what to expect and why you can't judge your results early

This might be the single most important thing in this entire post: do not judge the outcome of your surgery while you are still swollen. What you see in the mirror during the first weeks and even months is swelling, not your final face. I cannot stress this enough. People panic, they second-guess their decision, they convince themselves something went wrong — and almost always, the issue is that they're looking at a face full of fluid and trauma response, not at their surgical results.

Here's how swelling actually works after FFS:

The first 72 hours are the worst. Swelling peaks around 48-72 hours after surgery — so day 2 and day 3 will likely be when you look and feel the most swollen. Your face may feel tight, hot, and pressurized. This is your body's inflammatory response doing exactly what it's supposed to do. Cold compresses, head elevation, and a low-sodium diet all help limit how bad it gets, but you will swell. Everyone does.

Weeks 1-2: Swelling is still very prominent but starting to decrease. You'll notice fluctuation throughout the day — typically worse in the morning after lying flat all night, and improving as the day goes on and gravity helps drain fluid downward. This morning-to-evening fluctuation can continue for weeks and is completely normal.

Weeks 3-6: This is when things start to feel more encouraging. Your facial contours begin to look more familiar. Most people feel comfortable returning to work and social activities somewhere in this window. But you are still significantly swollen, even if it doesn't feel like it anymore because you've gotten used to it.

Months 2-3: Substantial improvement. At the 3 month mark, you can expect to see roughly 80% of your results. Your face is starting to look like your face again. But that remaining 20% matters — it's the difference between "I can see where this is going" and your actual final result.

Months 4-12: The slow reveal. Residual swelling continues to subside gradually. This is especially true for jaw and chin work — mandible contouring and genioplasty tend to produce the most prolonged swelling of any FFS procedure. You may not see the true final shape of your jaw until a full year out. Rhinoplasty results can also take 6 months to a year to fully settle.

Swelling doesn't resolve evenly. It follows a top-down pattern. Your forehead and eye area will improve first, followed by midface, and finally jaw and chin. This is because gravity and the lymphatic system work together to clear fluid, and they start from the top. So if you had both forehead and jaw work, don't be surprised if your upper face looks great at 6 weeks while your lower face is still puffy. That's the normal pattern, not a sign that the jaw work didn't go well.

Swelling also migrates. Fluid travels with gravity, so if you had chin or jaw angle surgery, the swelling and bruising will gradually move down into your neck over the following days. This is expected and temporary.

The low-sodium diet matters. Multiple surgeons recommend a strict low-to-no-sodium diet for the first 2-3 weeks after surgery, and for good reason — sodium causes your body to retain fluid, which means more swelling. This is one of the few things within your control that can meaningfully affect how swollen you get and how long it lasts. Read labels, avoid processed foods, and take it seriously.

The emotional side of swelling. This is where a lot of people struggle, and it deserves to be said plainly. You may look in the mirror at week 2 or week 4 and not recognize yourself, or worse, feel like you look worse than before. Post-surgery depression during this phase is extremely common — it's driven by physical exhaustion, pain, hormonal disruption from anesthesia, and the simple reality that your face is hidden under layers of swelling. It is not a sign that you made a mistake. It is not a sign that your surgery failed. It is a temporary physiological and emotional response that virtually everyone goes through to some degree. If you can, avoid obsessively checking the mirror in the first couple of weeks. You are looking at trauma and swelling, not at your new face.

The results emerge over time. Give yourself grace. By the time a year has passed, you'll be looking at what your surgeon actually accomplished — and that is when you can truly evaluate the outcome. This is also why most surgeons will not perform any revision work until at least 12 months have passed. The face needs that full year to settle.

Compression garments and bandages

You're going to leave the hospital looking a bit like a mummy, and that's by design. Depending on which procedures you had, you'll likely come home with gauze over your incisions, bandages wrapped around your face, and possibly a compression garment — essentially a snug wrap that goes around your chin, jaw, and/or forehead. Some people call the chin version a "jaw bra," which is accurate if undignified.

These garments aren't optional accessories. They apply gentle, even pressure that reduces swelling and bruising, help your skin and tissues settle properly against the underlying bone and muscle in their new positions, reduce the risk of fluid accumulating under the skin (seroma) or blood collecting (hematoma), and can actually help with pain management by keeping everything stabilized.

For the first week, expect to wear your compression garment and/or bandages essentially 24/7, including while sleeping. The only time you'll remove them is when your surgeon tells you to — usually for cleaning or at your first post-op appointment. During the second and third weeks, many surgeons allow you to stop wearing bandages during the day but still require the compression garment at night. After the initial recovery period, you should plan on continuing to wear the compression garment at night for 6 months to a year. That sounds like a long time, and it is — but your tissues are still settling and reshaping throughout that entire period. The nighttime compression helps shape and tone everything as it heals, and importantly, it helps prevent sagging. You've just had tissue lifted, repositioned, and contoured — the compression supports all of that work while gravity is trying to undo it during the hours you're lying down. Think of it as the easiest thing you can do to protect the investment you just made in your face.

Practical tips: Buy two garments if you can. You'll be wearing yours nearly around the clock at first and regularly for months after, and you need to wash it. Having a spare means you always have a clean one ready while the other dries. Some surgeons provide one; others expect you to purchase your own. Ask ahead of time.

Make sure it fits correctly before surgery. The garment should feel snug — firm, steady pressure — but not so tight that it's painful or leaves deep indentations. If the fabric bunches or folds, it's too tight, and excessive pressure can cause hyperpigmentation. If ordering online, get it early enough to try on and exchange if needed — you can't return a garment once it's been worn post-surgery.

The garment will feel annoying at first. Sleeping in a chin strap is not comfortable, especially when you're dealing with swelling and soreness. But you do get used to it, and eventually it just becomes part of your nighttime routine. It's doing real work while you sleep.

If your garment causes pressure on your ears, some brands offer foam pads for comfort. Worth asking about, especially if you're a side sleeper.

Between the compression garment, possible bandages, and general swelling, you may feel self-conscious about being seen during those early weeks. A wide soft scarf or a loose hoodie can help conceal the garment when you step out for appointments. A wide-brimmed hat — straw hats work great — plus a scarf can cover a lot and double as sun protection for your healing incisions.

Nerve tingling, numbness, and changes in sensation

This catches a lot of people off guard, so it deserves its own section.

After FFS, you will almost certainly experience numbness in the areas where your surgeon worked. If you had forehead contouring or a brow lift, expect your scalp and forehead to feel numb — some people describe it as a "marshmallow-like" feeling where you can touch your skin but barely register it. Chin and jaw work will typically leave your lower face and chin numb. This is completely normal and happens because the nerves running under the skin get disrupted when tissue is lifted away from the bone during surgery.

Here's the important thing to understand: numbness is not permanent for most people, but it takes a long time to resolve. We're not talking days or weeks. Nerve fibers regenerate at roughly 1mm per day, so recovery is measured in months. Most noticeable improvement happens between 3 and 6 months post-op. By around 3 months, many patients have regained 80-90% of normal sensation. Full recovery can take up to 12 months, and for some people up to 18 months for everything to fully settle.

During this process, you're going to experience some strange sensations. Tingling is actually a good sign — it means nerves are regenerating and reconnecting. Many people describe it as mild electrical zaps or currents under the skin. You might also get phantom pains, random itching in numb areas, or a crawling sensation on your scalp. These can be startling if nobody warned you, but they're signs of healing, not signs of something going wrong.

Be careful with temperature. Numb skin can't tell you when something is too hot or too cold. If you're using ice packs, always put a cloth between the ice and your skin and test the temperature on the back of your hand first. You can give yourself an ice burn on numb skin without realizing it. Same goes for hot beverages near numb lips.

Facial expressions may feel strange. Tightness, stiffness, and difficulty making certain expressions are common in the early weeks. If your brow feels like it won't move the way you want, that's normal. Gentle exercise of the facial muscles can help restore mobility as the nerves wake up, but don't force it.

The scalp is often the last area to fully recover. If you had a coronal or hairline incision, that whole region may feel numb or tingly for a long while. Light fingertip pressure on the scalp can relieve the itchy-tingly feelings, but don't rub or scratch at your incision sites.

There's a small chance of permanent changes. In rare cases — less than 1% with experienced surgeons — some areas may retain reduced sensation permanently, most commonly small patches on the scalp, forehead, or chin. Discuss this with your surgeon beforehand so you have realistic expectations. If numbness seems to be getting worse rather than better, or if you still have significant numbness beyond 6 months with no improvement, let your surgeon know so they can evaluate.

Scar care and sun protection

Fresh scars lack the melanocytes that protect normal skin from UV, which means sun exposure in the months after surgery can cause permanent hyperpigmentation — your scars darken and become much more visible. For people with deeper skin tones, the opposite can also happen (hypopigmentation), where scars lighten noticeably against surrounding skin.

The general guidance from most FFS surgeons is to protect your scars from the sun for at least 6 months, and ideally up to a year. Physical barriers come first — wide-brimmed hats (straw hats are perfect for this), scarves, or anything that blocks the sun from hitting your incision sites directly. Second best is a mineral sunblock containing zinc oxide or titanium dioxide, which is different from regular sunscreen and offers better protection. And you should also use regular sunscreen, SPF 30 or higher, on the scars any time you go outside. Both sunblock and sunscreen should be applied 15 minutes before exposure and reapplied every hour in the sun.

Stock up on hats before your surgery. You'll want them ready to go.

Scar massage

Once your surgeon clears you — usually around 3 weeks post-op — gentle scar massage can make a real difference. Use your fingertips to make small, firm, circular motions along the scar line. Many surgeons recommend pairing this with silicone scar gel, applied twice daily for the first year. The combination helps scars soften, flatten, and lose their redness over time.

Don't skip this. Scars typically get more raised and pigmented during the first 3 months before they start improving, so it's easy to get discouraged. The full maturation process takes 12-18 months.

Mouth incision care

If your procedure includes work through intraoral incisions — common with jaw contouring or chin work — your surgeon will have specific oral hygiene instructions. Don't eat hard or sharp foods: no nuts, chips, pretzels, or anything crunchy while those internal sutures are healing. The dissolvable stitches take time, and reopening a wound inside your mouth is no fun. This dovetails with Courtney's food list — soft foods aren't just about comfort with numb lips, they're protecting internal sutures too.

Sleeping elevated

Not just a comfort thing — keeping your head elevated for at least the first 2 weeks significantly reduces swelling. A recliner is ideal. If you don't have one, a foam wedge pillow or a stack of regular pillows will do. Buy it ahead of time.

Green concealer

Once you're cleared for light makeup (usually 7-10 days post-op), green-tinted concealer is your best friend for covering purple and yellow bruising. It's basic color correction but not obvious unless someone tells you. Pick some up before surgery.

Combining procedures — it doesn't always have to be staged

Courtney mentioned her surgeon's approach of doing FFS in two phases, and Charlotte's experience involved the type 3 brow bone reduction as a standalone game-changer. That's one approach, and there are good medical reasons for staging. But I want people to know that extensive combinations are sometimes possible depending on your surgical team and your overall health.

In my case, I had two teams of surgeons working on me simultaneously. In addition to my GRS, they did brow ridge removal, lowered my hairline, jaw contouring, and a face and neck lift with fat removal under the jaw. I didn't ask for the face and neck lift — the surgical team saw the opportunity while they were already working and made the call. I'm glad they did.

Not every surgeon or surgical center will do this, and not every patient is a candidate for that much work at once. But it's worth having the conversation during your consultation about what can realistically be combined, especially if you're traveling for surgery or dealing with limited time off work. Two teams working simultaneously can mean fewer separate surgeries, fewer rounds of anesthesia, and one recovery period instead of multiple ones. Ask your surgeon what's possible and safe for your specific situation.

The patience part

Final results from FFS generally aren't visible until about 12 months out. Around 80% of swelling is typically gone within a few months, but that last 20% takes time, and scar maturation can continue up to 18 months. If your surgeon offers revision work, most won't consider it until at least 12 months have passed. Be patient with yourself during those in-between months — your face is still settling into its new shape.
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Stottie Girl

Well that covers that then Susan! Thanks so much for a very detailed account and wider description. That is very useful to me.

Courtney/Charlotte - I would still love to hear your personal accounts as I've been following both your journeys from the start. I think Susan has taken the technical pressure off you though!
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Courtney G

#8
Thanks, Susan! You really covered a ton of ground there. It's particularly valuable to me as I'm dealing with some sort of nerve/tendon/carpal tunnel situation that might have been brought on from too much keyboard time, so I'm not able to type as much as my brain wants to. But I'll throw some "section 2" thoughts down here.

For reference:
Part 2: Choosing a surgeon
2a: Current political climate's affect on practitioners
2b: Waitlists
2c: Insurance coverage and other financial options

Choosing a surgeon:

2a: Current political climate's affect on practitioners (U.S.A. version)
During the process of trying to arrange FFS, I contacted 4 surgeons and found that their waitlists were extraordinarily long. As of the writing of this, there's a ton of pressure on hospitals and other medical facilities by conservative lobby groups, politicians, donors, etc. because there's a top-down initiative to reframe our needs as something other than what they are. As a result, hospitals who don't want to lose their funding or even deal with the drama associated with gender-affirming care are dropping programs designed to help us. The ones are that are still up and running are receiving a higher number of requests from folks who are hoping to get procedures done before they become more difficult to get.

Some states (such as the one in which I live) mandate gender affirming care coverage while some states don't. Health insurance companies would likely be happy if all gender-affirming care coverage was dropped. In my case, a facility I'd been patiently trying to schedule with severed their relationship with my insurance carrier, as they were not able to work with them to cover patients' needs.

The point is, some things are changing. The waitlist is getting longer and some practitioners are backing out of FFS work because it's become too controversial. I'm sorry to deliver this news here but one needs to keep their eyes open and factor this in which determining where to go for FFS. This may change after our midterm elections here in the U.S.A. as the majority party may switch.

2b: Waitlists
From what I've read, pretty much every facility has a very long wait, so if you're considering FFS, just go ahead and start calling doctors and getting on their schedules for a consult, if possible. In all likelihood, the initial consult will be scheduled many months into the future, with surgeries scheduled months or years after that, so the sooner you get the process started, the better. Most surgeons also have stand-by lists, so you might be able to slip in sooner, especially if you are ready to proceed, have the funds (or insurance coverage) and offer scheduling flexibility.

I was able to skip the wait and jump the line because I'd gotten on the waitlist of a preferred surgeon and received a call to notify me that a surgeon who'd been a resident there was returning to my area after a few years of practicing in the midwest. I lucked out.

2c: Insurance coverage and other financial options
If you're fortunate enough to live in a state in which FFS procedures are covered by insurance, you're going to want to get your paperwork in order. In my case, the two most important documents were letters from my therapist and my endocrinologist. Both stated that I demonstrated a history of gender dysphoria and offered up a timeline of my transition journey. I don't honestly know if letters from both types are practitioners are required but it made sense to cover this from both angles, and my insurance company issued an authorization letter stating that the procedures were determined to be "medically necessary" in order to treat my gender dysphoria.

I was fortunate to be able to get the work done through a facility that participated in my health insurance but I know of several people who went out-of-network to get the work done. In that case, the procedures are covered by their insurance, but it's up to you to work with someone at both the facility and the insurance company to get the claim paid. A "superbill" will be required, which needs to have very specific information, such as "CPT codes" for procedures which have been performed. Expect to have to work the phones and advocate for yourself in order to get the claim(s) approved and paid, but it can be done.

There are some notable "cash" options for getting FFS done. Prior to moving to Maryland, I'd contacted TransOp in Mexico and had an initial consultation with the surgery team there. They offer packages which include lodging and aftercare during your recovery period, with the procedures costing considerably less than in the U.S. Please note that this is not an endorsement; I'm just letting you know that traveling to get this work done is an option to consider, especially if you're looking to get the work done soon.

Yet another option is going to an out-of-network provider who doesn't participate in any insurance. From what I've gathered, some of these providers can get you in faster, as they're not all tied up with the administrative hoop-jumping that is endured by those who work with insurance companies. And they'll give you priority if you can demonstrate that you have the available funds to get the work done.

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Susan,

You said,

" Months 2-3: Substantial improvement. At the 3 month mark, you can expect to see roughly 80% of your results. Your face is starting to look like your face again. But that remaining 20% matters — it's the difference between "I can see where this is going" and your actual final result.

Months 4-12: The slow reveal. Residual swelling continues to subside gradually. This is especially true for jaw and chin work — mandible contouring and genioplasty tend to produce the most prolonged swelling of any FFS procedure. You may not see the true final shape of your jaw until a full year out. Rhinoplasty results can also take 6 months to a year to fully settle."


Does this mean you cannot be in public for at least three months and maybe longer?
Also that you cannot work, except maybe remotely?

Thank you for sharing so much here about this procedure.

Chrissy

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Courtney G

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on Yesterday at 08:58:00 PMDoes this mean you cannot be in public for at least three months and maybe longer?
Also that you cannot work, except maybe remotely?

I think it depends on both the individual and the procedures performed. I'm 11 days post-FFS and except for a couple of small purple spots on my face, one can't tell that I've had surgery. I have trouble moving my jaw, and it's swollen, so my speech is somewhat affected.

I'm 60 years old and had hairline, forehead, orbital shave, brow lift, cheek implants and chin done. Then again, I've always been a turbo healer.

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Charlotte Kitty

My FFS was a bit of a wildcard. I say this because my surgeon is not known for FFS at all, although he does explicitly list FFS procedures on his website. I didn't have the luxury of seeing examples of his FFS results before committing.

Here's the thing though: many of the popular FFS surgeons — even the more "budget" ones — have been steadily raising their prices as their popularity grows. I wouldn't necessarily recommend going in blind like I did, but so far I've had good results.

Because there were few FFS examples available, I evaluated my surgeon based on other factors. Reviews of his more common procedures were consistently good. Importantly, many reviewers had also left reviews for unrelated local things like restaurants and taxis, which helped validate that the accounts seemed genuine. I also saw pictures of his rhinoplasty work, which looked excellent, along with other procedures.

With some deeper digging, I found his name on a research paper specifically covering the use of 3D CAD in brow bone reduction. On top of that, he had been a speaker at several plastic surgery conferences. My advice would be: work hard on your research if you have the skill to do so — especially if you're going off the beaten path like I did. I rejected about 20 surgeons before settling on this one.

Before surgery there were several preparatory steps, which I expect are standard in most cases. A CT scan was done to gather more detail for the Type 3 brow bone reduction. I also met with my surgeon, who examined me in great detail to ensure the procedures were suitable and aligned with what I was hoping to achieve. If you're local you'd likely meet your surgeon well before surgery, but because I was travelling from abroad this was my first in-person meeting with him.

Pre-op tests included blood work, questionnaires, and an ECG. I also met my anesthetist so she could personally review my medications and conduct a risk assessment. Many questions were repeated several times for safety, especially regarding medications and lifestyle factors such as smoking and drinking. I don't do either, so that part was easy.

From my scans, my surgeon said he could also enhance my jaw bone, but I decided to stick to the original plan. Firstly, I was already at my budget limit, but more importantly this would have added another layer of recovery difficulty. I'll say this now: really consider how hardcore you are when deciding which procedures to include. It's not really about the pain — it's that each procedure creates a temporary disability while you recover.

My eyes were extremely swollen and I was functionally blind at several points during days 1–3. I couldn't breathe through my nose, and sleep suddenly had to be entirely on my back. That alone was enough to push my resolve to the limit and make the first few days quite difficult. If I had added jaw surgery on top of that, eating — which is essential for recovery — would have been far harder. It's worth thinking about how much you can realistically handle for those first three intense days.

Having my partner with me was pretty much essential. I was given medications that I simply couldn't manage while exhausted from surgery. My partner took notes, read the instructions, and handled my medications during the first two days. Because I couldn't read properly due to the swelling, it would have been nearly impossible to manage alone.

One day in hospital might technically be enough, but I didn't feel ready to leave with the swelling and fatigue. Without my partner, I definitely wouldn't have been able to leave after just one day.

I went in at about 7:30am, and the surgery ended up lasting around seven hours. I was sedated before the anesthesia, so the last thing I remember is being wheeled into the lift on the way to the operating room.

When I woke up, by far the worst issue was the swelling around my lower eyes and the near blindness. This was worse for me because I also had upper blepharoplasty to fix my hooded eyes. Blood had filled the eye area and was difficult to wash out, which basically sealed my eyes shut. Luckily I had prepared in advance with sterile swabs and tubes of saline eye wash.

Otherwise I mostly just felt very tired. Sleeping was difficult because I'm normally a side sleeper, so being forced to sleep on my back wasn't comfortable. They did give me medication to help with sleep though. I also had to keep my arm low because I was on a drip — if I lifted it, the line would stop and turn red. Because of that, I ended up being cannulated in the other arm as well. I probably went through three saline drips plus a vitamin-type recovery drip by the morning.

One thing I made sure to do was get moving and start eating as soon as possible. The sooner you start moving around, the better. Your body is also very hungry for nutrition after surgery. Even without jaw work, I could only eat soft foods for about four days. Jaw movement creates pressure around the swollen forehead area, so soup is definitely a good choice. My partner brought me breakfast from the buffet, and we ordered room service for the first couple of days.

The aftercare here has been very comprehensive. They've seen me every other day to check on my progress, with my surgeon overseeing everything. If I had any concerns, they would pick me up within two hours and bring me in to be seen. While I was in hospital, they responded to call buttons within seconds. I've been really impressed with the level of care.

At this point I mostly just feel uncomfortable when I first wake up. My nose gets congested due to the rhinoplasty healing, and I think that slows the drainage from my eyes and forehead. Once I'm up and moving it clears and I feel pretty normal.

I'll add more updates when I think of other things.
Agender / genderqueer
HRT April 25
FFS March 26
GRS Feb 27
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Charlotte Kitty

Quote from: ChrissyRyan on Yesterday at 08:58:00 PMDoes this mean you cannot be in public for at least three months and maybe longer?
Also that you cannot work, except maybe remotely?


It's less about if you can and more about your comfort. I was bruised with blooded eyes, yet went walking around here to the shopping centre. Once the blood was clean I also went out for food. People know you've had surgery so they won't judge you.

I'm still badly bruised at day 7 and may well be still showing signs in a week's time. Work knows so they are keeping me on lighter duties in the office only. Really you do need some support from your employer unless you're having maybe 4 weeks or more off.

I won't bother trying to use makeup or conceal. I'm writing these few weeks off, as after I have my whole life to look more beautiful as a result of the FFS. My thinking is people will have to see me as I choose. I'm not fighting to hide my experience. This happened, people can see it. There is no shame to looking beaten and bruised.
Agender / genderqueer
HRT April 25
FFS March 26
GRS Feb 27
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ChrissyRyan

Quote from: Charlotte Kitty on Today at 01:35:25 AMMy FFS was a bit of a wildcard. I say this because my surgeon is not known for FFS at all, although he does explicitly list FFS procedures on his website. I didn't have the luxury of seeing examples of his FFS results before committing.

Here's the thing though: many of the popular FFS surgeons — even the more "budget" ones — have been steadily raising their prices as their popularity grows. I wouldn't necessarily recommend going in blind like I did, but so far I've had good results.

Because there were few FFS examples available, I evaluated my surgeon based on other factors. Reviews of his more common procedures were consistently good. Importantly, many reviewers had also left reviews for unrelated local things like restaurants and taxis, which helped validate that the accounts seemed genuine. I also saw pictures of his rhinoplasty work, which looked excellent, along with other procedures.

With some deeper digging, I found his name on a research paper specifically covering the use of 3D CAD in brow bone reduction. On top of that, he had been a speaker at several plastic surgery conferences. My advice would be: work hard on your research if you have the skill to do so — especially if you're going off the beaten path like I did. I rejected about 20 surgeons before settling on this one.

Before surgery there were several preparatory steps, which I expect are standard in most cases. A CT scan was done to gather more detail for the Type 3 brow bone reduction. I also met with my surgeon, who examined me in great detail to ensure the procedures were suitable and aligned with what I was hoping to achieve. If you're local you'd likely meet your surgeon well before surgery, but because I was travelling from abroad this was my first in-person meeting with him.

Pre-op tests included blood work, questionnaires, and an ECG. I also met my anesthetist so she could personally review my medications and conduct a risk assessment. Many questions were repeated several times for safety, especially regarding medications and lifestyle factors such as smoking and drinking. I don't do either, so that part was easy.

From my scans, my surgeon said he could also enhance my jaw bone, but I decided to stick to the original plan. Firstly, I was already at my budget limit, but more importantly this would have added another layer of recovery difficulty. I'll say this now: really consider how hardcore you are when deciding which procedures to include. It's not really about the pain — it's that each procedure creates a temporary disability while you recover.

My eyes were extremely swollen and I was functionally blind at several points during days 1–3. I couldn't breathe through my nose, and sleep suddenly had to be entirely on my back. That alone was enough to push my resolve to the limit and make the first few days quite difficult. If I had added jaw surgery on top of that, eating — which is essential for recovery — would have been far harder. It's worth thinking about how much you can realistically handle for those first three intense days.

Having my partner with me was pretty much essential. I was given medications that I simply couldn't manage while exhausted from surgery. My partner took notes, read the instructions, and handled my medications during the first two days. Because I couldn't read properly due to the swelling, it would have been nearly impossible to manage alone.

One day in hospital might technically be enough, but I didn't feel ready to leave with the swelling and fatigue. Without my partner, I definitely wouldn't have been able to leave after just one day.

I went in at about 7:30am, and the surgery ended up lasting around seven hours. I was sedated before the anesthesia, so the last thing I remember is being wheeled into the lift on the way to the operating room.

When I woke up, by far the worst issue was the swelling around my lower eyes and the near blindness. This was worse for me because I also had upper blepharoplasty to fix my hooded eyes. Blood had filled the eye area and was difficult to wash out, which basically sealed my eyes shut. Luckily I had prepared in advance with sterile swabs and tubes of saline eye wash.

Otherwise I mostly just felt very tired. Sleeping was difficult because I'm normally a side sleeper, so being forced to sleep on my back wasn't comfortable. They did give me medication to help with sleep though. I also had to keep my arm low because I was on a drip — if I lifted it, the line would stop and turn red. Because of that, I ended up being cannulated in the other arm as well. I probably went through three saline drips plus a vitamin-type recovery drip by the morning.

One thing I made sure to do was get moving and start eating as soon as possible. The sooner you start moving around, the better. Your body is also very hungry for nutrition after surgery. Even without jaw work, I could only eat soft foods for about four days. Jaw movement creates pressure around the swollen forehead area, so soup is definitely a good choice. My partner brought me breakfast from the buffet, and we ordered room service for the first couple of days.

The aftercare here has been very comprehensive. They've seen me every other day to check on my progress, with my surgeon overseeing everything. If I had any concerns, they would pick me up within two hours and bring me in to be seen. While I was in hospital, they responded to call buttons within seconds. I've been really impressed with the level of care.

At this point I mostly just feel uncomfortable when I first wake up. My nose gets congested due to the rhinoplasty healing, and I think that slows the drainage from my eyes and forehead. Once I'm up and moving it clears and I feel pretty normal.

I'll add more updates when I think of other things.


Charlotte,

Thank you for sharing this.  You are quite brave.  The only surgeries I have had were not really my choice, but the way to fix something.  Yours is certainly a major invasive surgery.


Chrissy
Always stay cheerful, be polite, kind, and understanding. Accepting yourself as the woman you are is very liberating.  Never underestimate the appreciation and respect of authenticity.  Help connect a person to someone that may be able to help that person.  Be brave, be strong.  A TRUE friend is a treasure.  Relationships are very important, people are important, and the sooner we all realize that the better off the world will be.  Try a little kindness.  Be generous with your time, energy, wisdom, and resources.   Inconvenience yourself to help someone.   I am a brown eyed, brown haired woman. 

ChrissyRyan

Quote from: Courtney G on Yesterday at 10:27:30 PMI think it depends on both the individual and the procedures performed. I'm 11 days post-FFS and except for a couple of small purple spots on my face, one can't tell that I've had surgery. I have trouble moving my jaw, and it's swollen, so my speech is somewhat affected.

I'm 60 years old and had hairline, forehead, orbital shave, brow lift, cheek implants and chin done. Then again, I've always been a turbo healer.


Courtney,


I appreciate all that you have shared here.  You are brave for sure.  I am glad you are quickly healing.

Chrissy
Always stay cheerful, be polite, kind, and understanding. Accepting yourself as the woman you are is very liberating.  Never underestimate the appreciation and respect of authenticity.  Help connect a person to someone that may be able to help that person.  Be brave, be strong.  A TRUE friend is a treasure.  Relationships are very important, people are important, and the sooner we all realize that the better off the world will be.  Try a little kindness.  Be generous with your time, energy, wisdom, and resources.   Inconvenience yourself to help someone.   I am a brown eyed, brown haired woman. 

Stottie Girl

Thanks to both of you.

Courtneys experience choosing surgeons is likely to be US specific but there are a severe lack of surgeons in the UK so we probably have to add surgical tourism into the mix. Charlotte has given a very good account of her experiance in Turkey. I wonder if anyone on here has been to the spanish FFS place, Facialteam? they seem to have a good reputation.

Plus can I be cheeky and ask what the costs people have experienced were? I imagine Turkey was cheaper Charlotte? No wories if you don't want to share. I can see that facial team seem to be quoting a ballpark figure of around £18,000 for brow work with hairline transplant.
A wise man once said don't judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes, that way when you judge him you're a mile away and you have his shoes!
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