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ftms and earplugs

Started by ace, October 26, 2011, 01:32:04 PM

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meh

Quote from: Natkat on October 28, 2011, 05:24:34 PM
well now I dont have any stretch but I somehow got a idea that its something about attention.

Nope. I do it because I like how it looks. Same with my hair and other piercings. I don't give a ->-bleeped-<- if people want to look at it or not.

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JetBlackAndJealous

Quote from: JetBlackAndJealous on October 29, 2011, 11:04:24 AM
How does scalpelling well? -scaredface-

Obviously meant work, just kinda outta sorts from being sick today. ;[
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wheat thins are delicious

 

I've made a little diagram.  The picture on the left is a small gauge piercing that is off center of the lobe.  The red line represents a cut the person doing the scalpelling would make.  This would enable the flesh to open up along the cut line and you would be able to put a larger sized plug in and make the hole more centered.  The result would be the right image. 

Scalpelling is ideal for positioning off center piercings but can also be done in lieu of stretching but the cuts are best done in 1mm increments and must be done by a professional who has experience doing such a thing because it's very easy to slice too much and destroy your lobe.   Also it's best to do 1mm increments because scalpelling tends to make the lobe more stretchy.


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Da Monkey

While I know it is just either a stereotype or coincidence, whatever, I do find it amusing that I know off hand 6 people in my hometown who are FTM and all of them besides me have stretched ears, tattoos and/or other piercings.
The story is the same, I've just personalized the name.
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JetBlackAndJealous

Quote from: Andy8715 on October 29, 2011, 02:34:07 PM
 

I've made a little diagram.  The picture on the left is a small gauge piercing that is off center of the lobe.  The red line represents a cut the person doing the scalpelling would make.  This would enable the flesh to open up along the cut line and you would be able to put a larger sized plug in and make the hole more centered.  The result would be the right image. 

Scalpelling is ideal for positioning off center piercings but can also be done in lieu of stretching but the cuts are best done in 1mm increments and must be done by a professional who has experience doing such a thing because it's very easy to slice too much and destroy your lobe.   Also it's best to do 1mm increments because scalpelling tends to make the lobe more stretchy.

I don't know.. I also wouldn't want my holes to blend in with the lower ones. Also, it looks quite painful as well. The punch wasn't bad at all.

Quote from: Da Monkey on October 29, 2011, 02:46:34 PM
While I know it is just either a stereotype or coincidence, whatever, I do find it amusing that I know off hand 6 people in my hometown who are FTM and all of them besides me have stretched ears, tattoos and/or other piercings.

I have all of the above - thirteen piercings, 00g ears, and two tattoos. They make me feel more like I'm supposed to be.
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Da Monkey

Yeah I find that most people generally look more attractive that way, just it's not something for me.
The story is the same, I've just personalized the name.
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wheat thins are delicious

If you have more than one hole yeah it's probably not the best for  you.  It's no more painful than a punch and I feel it would be less painful than dermal punching if anything.


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JetBlackAndJealous

Monkey, it's not for everyone, but that's the good thing; it doesn't have to be.
Andy, well, I only have one, but I want another. I think girlfriend and I are just gonna get our lips pierced more. I'll end up with six in my lip, and she will just have the one.
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Tlaxcalli

Really, I am surprised by the responses in this thread. You do not think it is an FTM thing? Well, I guess that does tell that it's probably not an explicitly FTM thing like the one-earring of gay men or thumb ring of lesbians. But these trans guys are usually wearing two plugs/earrings, so I doubted it could just be a gay male thing. I could see how it is an alternative thing. However, I *do* think there are an unusual amount of FTMs wearing plugs and earrings. When I attended the Philly Trans Health Conference, I noticed this. I mentioned it to a trans guy there who doesn't wear either, and he said he noticed the same thing and didn't know why. The particular guy I spoke to is a law student at Harvard, so it's not surprising he skipped out on the alternative wear.

Tell me this isn't striking... I just looked up this topic after looking at the following photo project. All but two of these ten trans guys is wearing a plug or earring, and most are wearing plugs. (Except also one whose ears are invisible.) Also, half of them have other facial piercings.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2013/07/09/lorenzo_triburgo_transportraits_captures_the_heroism_of_transgender_men.html

I do live in a most "conservatively dressed" city - Washington, D.C. - and 10% of our population identifies as TLGB, and I don't see many in the QT community, let alone straight cis men, wearing distinctive earrings/plugs like this (and I'm 24 and hang with people my age). I also attended the National Animal Rights Conference in 2009 in D.C. and noticed that a lot of alternative people attended that conference... where I'm originally from - Texas - there were a fair number of teenagers who looked goth and punk and such, but I never see that in D.C. So when I saw that at the AR Conference I was like, "whoa!" But I don't recall noticing people wearing earrings of any particular sort. I haven't paid that much attention to it, but it never stood out to me before PTHC. I'll have to keep an eye out now, but I think it really is an FTM thing, even if it's partly due to trans people being more alternative... I suspect trans guys seeing other trans guys and thinking it looks cool and following suit. I could be wrong, but this makes sense to me! It's probably a combination of things.

Also, I notice a lot of trans guys with tattoos... I always thought that this is because, given that trans guys already may feel like they don't fit in, they don't have as much of a desire to try to be normal by avoiding tattoos? Or maybe it's a masculine thing to have big arm tattoos? I don't know. Anyway, I was a little surprised by all the plugs and earrings because they seem like things society would consider more feminine? I guess a lot of trans men already have their ears pierced anyway since the time they were presenting as girls, so it's easy to go forward from there. Sorry, this is all a bunch of speculation. I will shut up now.
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~RoadToTrista~

Quote from: Tlaxcalli on July 09, 2013, 01:54:13 PM

I do live in a most "conservatively dressed" city - Washington, D.C.

Well there you go.

It is definitely not just an ftm thing, I've seen lots of guys doing guages. (They're mostly teenagers) I don't know if they're as popular as they were, this thread's like 2 years old.

Tattoos aren't uncommon either, trans or cis.
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Mr.X

Wow, so funny an old thread about this pops up because I have been wondering the -exact- same thing.
Plugs don't seem very common here, so I may be biased (as in, I don't see them very often where I live, so seeing a few guys with them online might seem like a lot, while it would be average in, for example, America) But after watching a lot of youtube videos from trans guys, it did strike me that so many of them had plugs. I always notice them because personally, I don't like plugs. (not meant to offense anyone. I just personally am not fond of them).
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spacerace

Some people can pull them off really well.  While they are definitely prevalent among trans guys, you have to remember that they are also really popular in the 18 (or younger) - 30 crowd in the general population, which is an age group that is seeing a large influx of transitioning guys.  It is partially an extension of that.

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King Malachite

They do seem to be catching on....whether cis or trans.

They aren't for me though.  My ears have never been pierced and I don't have plans on ever getting them pierced or stretched out.
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Simon

I got to a 00 and took them out about a month and a half or so ago. Just out of curiosity I tested to see what size taper I could use and now they're both 8g. I decided to stop when I enrolled in College and want to get a good job one day. I have tattoos but I can hide ink by wearing long sleeves. Having stretched ears in a more conservative State is just one more hurdle towards employment that I don't need. Now I'm stuck with hundreds of dollars in plugs (Zoomorphic/Anatometal/Omerica) that I'll never use. Probably throw them on ebay eventually.

I will continue getting ink. Just nothing on my hands or neck.
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AdamMLP

I think trans men are more likely to wear plugs because a lot of young "girls" get their ears pierced by their parents, or they've been through an uber femme stage to try and fit in with their peers and got their ears pierced then.  That way they've already got the holes in both of their ears.  I started stretching mine (pierced because I wanted to wear an earring like the cool guys did at my school but the only way I could get it done was to have both pierced as I'm not out at home), but I ripped them out taking my motorcycle helmet off and they started bleeding and got nasty and completely closed up.  I'm not fussed enough to get them repierced to do it properly, but part of me wishes I could so that the scar tissue from being pierced/messed around stretching them isn't visible.
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Nygeel

I got my ears pierced when I was a teen and started stretching them at the same time. I've been the same size since I was 17. I started stretching at maybe 15.
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wheat thins are delicious

Quote from: Tlaxcalli on July 09, 2013, 01:54:13 PM
Really, I am surprised by the responses in this thread. You do not think it is an FTM thing?

No, I don't.  See a lot of one group doing something or having something doesn't mean it's exclusive to that group only.  Correlation does not imply causation is a phrase I feel is fitting here.


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Soren

Quote from: kyle_lawrence on October 27, 2011, 12:53:40 PM
My ears are stretched to 5/8" (16mm).  I think its just a coincidence that I used to identify as a lesbian. 

I started stretching my ears when i was 19, and over about 5 years got them to the size I have now.  Thought about going to 3/4", but then I realized I would have to buy all new plugs, and I like the ones I have now.  It kind of started as a rebellion thing, I wanted nothing to do with anything that could be considered "normal".  I've since gotten over that (a long with my former crust punk wardrobe and blue hair) but I still really like how it looks.  Can't really explain why, I just do. 

Regarding safety, its only dangerous if you do it wrong, You have to go slowly and only 1 size at a time or you will mess up your ears.  Ive seen kids try to go up a size every 2 weeks or so, or try to stretch too much at once, and it ends up looking horrible.  If you don't give your skin time to recover (at LEAST 2 months) the ear lobe can tear when you try to stretch it, or areas can get too thin and weak.  If theres ever blood, you've done something horribly wrong, and you will probably end up with an infection.

^-- depending. I went from 20g to 14g in two weeks, granted my lobes are pliable and the piercings had been fully healed for 10 years.
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Soren

I agree that it's more of a 'youth culture' or 'alternative' thing. Here in the Seattle area, you can't walk 20ft without seeing through a hipsters ears. It seems a nod-to/appropriation-of tribal practices; the same way tribal style tattoos were the 'rage' in the 90s.
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conformer

Hah, this reminds me of when I didn't know what "stretching your ears" was. I associated tunnel&plugs to trans people as well and I thought it was like a thing only people within the community did because so many had them!

Anyways, I learned more about them and started to realize that tons of people stretch their ears, not just ftms.
P.s: I stretched one of mine. It's at a 2g right now and I don't plan on stretching anymore :p.