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I have ->-bleeped-<-. Is 20 too late to pass *attractively*? (pics)

Started by Ultimus, December 03, 2011, 03:36:39 PM

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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Akashiya Moka on December 17, 2011, 03:05:38 AM
I think the image of a drag queen Jen has in mind is something like this:



Oh not this:


Btw, Candis Cayne is a TG performer like me. THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF DRAG QUEENS!
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Akashiya Moka

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Joandelynn

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 17, 2011, 03:11:20 AM
Btw, Candis Cayne is a TG performer like me. THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT TYPES OF DRAG QUEENS!

According to Google she transitioned. But in my dictionary, a drag queen is a crossdressing gay male.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Joandelynn on December 17, 2011, 03:58:39 AM
According to Google she transitioned. But in my dictionary, a drag queen is a crossdressing gay male.

She didn't. She still has her part.

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Annah

Quote from: Mahsa the disco shark on December 17, 2011, 04:35:08 AM
She didn't. She still has her part.

"transitioned" has different meanings to different people. For example, to some non ops, they can say "I have transitioned" without the surgery.
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Annah on December 17, 2011, 07:02:12 PM
"transitioned" has different meanings to different people. For example, to some non ops, they can say "I have transitioned" without the surgery.

Well then I've transitioned.
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cynthialee

Quote from: Annah on December 17, 2011, 07:02:12 PM
"transitioned" has different meanings to different people. For example, to some non ops, they can say "I have transitioned" without the surgery.
2 years plus on HRT, post orchi and BA I pretty much consider myself transitioned.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Jen61

Then if "transitioning" means bcoming a woman, it follows that as bona fide female you cannot be a gay man, or DQ, or anything else but a heterosexual or homosexual woman :laugh:
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Annah

Quote from: Jen61 on December 18, 2011, 01:36:40 PM
Then if "transitioning" means bcoming a woman, it follows that as bona fide female you cannot be a gay man, or DQ, or anything else but a heterosexual or homosexual woman :laugh:

not to change the subject but I wouldn't use a private person's pic as your avatar. That kinda goes with the offense of someone stealing my pic and using it without my permission.

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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Jen61 on December 18, 2011, 01:36:40 PM
Then if "transitioning" means bcoming a woman, it follows that as bona fide female you cannot be a gay man, or DQ, or anything else but a heterosexual or homosexual woman :laugh:

I thought it was my life, my rules?

I can present one way and think another...Like polticians do.

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Ultimus

I'm in a real catch-22 lose/lose situation. Like I'm in a real mess.

The problem is that there are two jdinatales. One jdinatale wants to make his parents proud, wants to be a successful businessman, tries to train mma and bodybuild, wants to be a virile heterosexual man with a girlfriend.

The other jdinatale wants to be a woman, wants to wear makeup and girl clothes, and do her hair.

If I stay a man, I will always have these thoughts in the back of my mind and I'll never escape them. I'll look wealthy and prosperous from the outside; I'll have a nice family and own my dream house and cars. I'll smile in the photos, but deep down I will always carry these feelings. I could never be sexually satisfied.

If I become a woman, I'll kill the first jdinatale: I'll lose my relationship with my mom and twin sister and I'll lose my dream of becoming a CEO (let's be reality: the chances of a woman, let alone a transwoman, becoming a CEO in the conservative business world are slim).

I'm not trying to be melodramatic, but for one jdinatale to live, the other one has to die. There is no middle ground, you are either a woman or a man. In one scenario I become satisfied externally, putting on a show for everyone to see. In the other scenario, I become marginalized, an outcast of society, but I fulfill my deepest, most powerful desire, which is to be a woman.

And I have to somehow figure all of this out by January 3rd because that's when I go to the endocrinologist.
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A_Dresden_Doll

Quote from: jdinatale on December 19, 2011, 05:29:58 PM
I'm in a real catch-22 lose/lose situation. Like I'm in a real mess.

The problem is that there are two jdinatales. One jdinatale wants to make his parents proud, wants to be a successful businessman, tries to train mma and bodybuild, wants to be a virile heterosexual man with a girlfriend.

The other jdinatale wants to be a woman, wants to wear makeup and girl clothes, and do her hair.

If I stay a man, I will always have these thoughts in the back of my mind and I'll never escape them. I'll look wealthy and prosperous from the outside; I'll have a nice family and own my dream house and cars. I'll smile in the photos, but deep down I will always carry these feelings. I could never be sexually satisfied.

If I become a woman, I'll kill the first jdinatale: I'll lose my relationship with my mom and twin sister and I'll lose my dream of becoming a CEO (let's be reality: the chances of a woman, let alone a transwoman, becoming a CEO in the conservative business world are slim).

I'm not trying to be melodramatic, but for one jdinatale to live, the other one has to die. There is no middle ground, you are either a woman or a man. In one scenario I become satisfied externally, putting on a show for everyone to see. In the other scenario, I become marginalized, an outcast of society, but I fulfill my deepest, most powerful desire, which is to be a woman.

And I have to somehow figure all of this out by January 3rd because that's when I go to the endocrinologist.
Success is always relative. What is outward success at the cost of yourself in the process? Become the Ubermensch, find your own path, and don't cater to others because of guilt.

You can also try HRT for a short while to see how it makes you feel. While there is a risk of becoming sterile, most effects are reversible, and I have known of people to try to transition, got on HRT, found out it wasn't for them, and then went on with their lives. At this point, besides a good gender therapist, open-ended options seem like a good idea for you.
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A_Dresden_Doll

Quote from: Akashiya Moka on December 17, 2011, 03:05:38 AM
I think the image of a drag queen Jen has in mind is something like this:


Trannies pumping trannies? Is that like babies have babies?

Also, I just want to go out on a limp and say that I think Misty is awesome. I would go out with him any night and enjoy a drink with her.
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Jen61

Quote from: Annah on December 19, 2011, 12:12:56 AM
not to change the subject but I wouldn't use a private person's pic as your avatar. That kinda goes with the offense of someone stealing my pic and using it without my permission.

1) How do you know it is not me ?

May be is just the angle, we all have an angle from which we look passable, in my case I have to minimize my thining hair !  Or did the prospect of some other ->-bleeped-<- looking better than you threathens you ? I do not not know which one is motivating you, unlike you, I am not omniscient

2) Or how do you that a relative gave me the picture ? You just have to assume the worst!

You once already demanded proof for me? Did you ever consider that the reason that I have to tell half truths or ommit things or hide my identity is because otherwise my life would be in danger! Do you need proof ? Coming from a future preacher is  kind of surprising, a total lack of faith or compassion.


I hope you sleep well tonight, thanks a lot preacher !
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Mahsa Tezani

Quote from: Jen61 on December 19, 2011, 06:53:03 PM


May be is just the angle, we all have an angle from which we look passable, in my case I have to minimize my thining hair !  Or did the prospect of some other ->-bleeped-<- looking better than you threathens you ? I do not not know which one is motivating you, unlike you, I am not omniscient


2) Or how do you that a relative gave me the picture ? You just have to assume the worst!

You once already demanded proof for me? Did you ever consider that the reason that I have to tell half truths or ommit things or hide my identity is because otherwise my life would be in danger! Do you need proof ? Coming from a future preacher is  kind of surprising, a total lack of faith or compassion.


I hope you sleep well tonight, thanks a lot preacher !


You totally lack compassion and I wonder if you're just a troublemaker. If you are...job well done. Trollin is an art, until someone gets hurt...LMAO

Annah looks great... you've yet to materialize an actual pic of yourself. By putting together the jumble of thoughts in your posts. I can see that you're extremely insecure in yourself and can only resort to attacks on people on this board. I don't believe that pic is you, because if it was...you'd still have it up as your profile pic.

Your life in danger? Wow, just wow. Is it the CIA or Roswell aliens going after you? LOL This is the internet... Hell, Mahsa isn't even my real name. You can protect your privacy to a certain degree...But honestly, I doubt your coworkers are searching for what you do in your personal time.

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Padma

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Annah

Quote from: Jen61 on December 19, 2011, 06:53:03 PM
1) How do you know it is not me ?

May be is just the angle, we all have an angle from which we look passable, in my case I have to minimize my thining hair !  Or did the prospect of some other ->-bleeped-<- looking better than you threathens you ? I do not not know which one is motivating you, unlike you, I am not omniscient

I knew it wasn't you. My point was that you shouldn't use someone else's private pic as your avatar. A famous person is fine, but a girl who has no idea you are using it is kinda unethical. That was my entire point. If I done the same thing I would have expected someone else to say the same thing to me. People have used my pics before as themselves and it doesn't feel good when my identity has been taken.

That avatar did not have thinning hair. Nor was it at an angle to make you pass. It was an amateur pic of a girl smiling outside. I wasn't responding to critique the picture.

The only thing that was motivating me was the girl's privacy and her face being displayed on a forum that she probably doesn't know about.


Quote2) Or how do you that a relative gave me the picture ? You just have to assume the worst!

See my next explanation after this one.


QuoteYou once already demanded proof for me?

You emailed me. I didn't email you. Furthermore, in your first email, you told me that you have two master degrees, a Ph.D, and a M.D., without me even asking you. You said, quote: "I earned a MS in biochemistry, a MD (residence in cancer), a PhD in biotechnology, and more recently a MS engineering".

For someone earning such high level degrees, I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt the avatar was not you. The avatar was a girl in her very early twenties. To get the degrees you stated to me in an email, you would have been at least thirty eight years old and that is considering you breeze through all degrees starting at the age of 18 with a Bachelor's and doing some of the graduate courses simultaneously and back to back (not including M.D. residence). Not even the television fictional character "Doogie Howser, M.D" could have pulled that off.

Secondly, I never demanded proof from you. I asked to see some of your publications because if this was true, the readings would have been extraordinary and I gave you the benefit of the doubt; which I will explain further in the next writings down:

QuoteDid you ever consider that the reason that I have to tell half truths or ommit things or hide my identity is because otherwise my life would be in danger! Do you need proof ? Coming from a future preacher is  kind of surprising, a total lack of faith or compassion.

Yes. You stated this as the reason why you wouldn't show me any of your publications. Someone would kill you if I were to read them and inadvertently gave out your identity to your Doctoral Peers. Which brings me to my other point why I know the avatar wasn't you:

You say your life would have been in danger if you sent me a copy of your publications and/or medical journals through gmail.com but you felt it was safe enough to display your own picture as your avatar on a very popular transgender website. Do you see the problem?

Just a side note: the final email I sent you where I stated that I doubt the amount of degrees you received was because of the sheer number of misspelling errors in both your posts here and your emails and your posting behavior on these forums where you went back and forth with Masha...someone with two doctorates; one in Medicine and the other in Biotechnology would never have acted like that. Also, your misspellings are misspellings that a spell checker in any web browser would have fixed simply by clicking on the red underline word. And you stated you misspell a lot of words because you are a foreigner....well...I know many "foreigners" who are getting their doctoral degrees in the US and have perfect English skills.

Would you like to know why?

Because Universities in the U.S. for both the undergraduate and graduate programs require you to take an "English as a Second Language" exam to show the school you have the ability to understand the professors in English and to write and take tests in English. At the graduate level and especially the post graduate level this English Exam is even more strict where they gauge your grammar as papers and thesis are crucial to the development of the degree you are pursuing.

You told me you had a team of proof readers. You don't get that luxury as a student taking the English entrance exams or the GRE (Graduate Records Examination).

And to give you idea about grammar...I had to do a paper rewrite this semester because I used "weak" verbs rather than "strong" verbs. So if my professor did not like the selection of verbs I used (he hates the words "is" "for" "of" etc) and made me rewrite the paper then I am positive you would not have passed any of those papers with your grammar issues at a graduate level....not to mention the post graduate level.



QuoteI hope you sleep well tonight, thanks a lot preacher !

I do not have guilt with this. Sorry. I wrote this out thoroughly to show you I am not trolling you but to give you a rational explanation why I came to the conclusion that I did. If I simply said "the avatar isn't you" and provided no explanation, then someone could say i was attacking you unfairly.
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Siobhan

Quote from: AubreyRenee on December 15, 2011, 07:48:50 PM
Long story short? It won't be as bad as you think. Trust me.
It can be,i was 14 when my nan found out about how I felt(raised by my grandparants) she totally freaked out,called me a pervert etc,then she started drinking a lot,which meant she did not take her blood pressure meds,which meant she had a stroke...she died a few years later not even knowing who I was anymore. I've felt guilty my whole life, and lost the only person who ever did love me as a kid growing up.
Sometimes it can be bad.
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Ultimus

Quote from: Siobhan on December 22, 2011, 01:40:38 AM
It can be,i was 14 when my nan found out about how I felt(raised by my grandparants) she totally freaked out,called me a pervert etc,then she started drinking a lot,which meant she did not take her blood pressure meds,which meant she had a stroke...she died a few years later not even knowing who I was anymore. I've felt guilty my whole life, and lost the only person who ever did love me as a kid growing up.
Sometimes it can be bad.

This.

My mom told me last night that the only hope she has is that I don't give up fighting this problem and that I don't give into it. She said she couldn't go on if I did and that her happiness was dependent on me not giving in. I have no doubts she would end up in a mental hospital or dead if she ever finds out. It's a really sucky situation.
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