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FTM,MFT, Husbands and Wives, Abortion and questions.

Started by Shawn Sunshine, January 06, 2013, 02:40:44 PM

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Elspeth

Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on January 06, 2013, 08:47:01 PM
Yeah that is very irresponsible, there are all sorts of ways to not get pregnant.

But none of them are 100% reliable. My ex and I had a pregnancy scare within the first year of our relationship, as she was in the middle of her first year of med school. Fortunately for us, we didn't have to make a tough decision, as it was a false alarm, but we did have some very difficult moments in the discussion. Neither of us would have found abortion easy, but it was still something we might have had to consider seriously if the scare had turned out to be a real pregnancy.

FWIW, we were using a combination of diaphragm and condom 100% of the time when this happened. This was also before the advent of the morning after pill.

We were still essentially undecided by the time that the alarm turned out to be one we didn't have to reach a decision on. I really can't say what our decision would have been.

But, if she had come to a decision that I was more ambivalent about at that time, I know I would have respected her final say so and supported it as well as possible emotionally and otherwise. I have a serious problem with any law that amounts to a form of slavery, and that's how I feel many of the positions that argue against freedom of choice here. It might be how I've limited my range of friendships, but I've never met anyone who would make an abortion decision casually or without considerable thought and mourning.
"Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future."
- Sonmi-451 in Cloud Atlas
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peky

Quote from: BlueSloth on January 06, 2013, 08:09:10 PM
I think if the baby's central nervous system is developed enough to be aware that something bad is happening and suffer, it's too late.  Of course, it's hard to tell when that actually happens, but I doubt the "point of viability" is a very well defined point either, and that's apparently good enough to base a law on.
It'd depend on why they said it.  If they blamed me for existing and resented me for it, then I'd be devastated and probably have major emotional problems from it.  It wouldn't make a difference whether they wanted to abort me or didn't want to conceive me in the first place.

All organs  and organ systems are structural and organizational developed by the end of the 12th week of gestation, thereafter is all about maturation and geometric growth.

As far as abortion, it firmly belief that is not something that should be legislated by the courts or by the church (or any religious organizations). The decision to undergo an abortions should almost always be of the woman and the woman alone.





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peky

I think at 40 Yo you should put more distance between you mother (and family) and yourself. In doing so you will find more peace and create an environment more supportive of your transitioning.
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Shawn Sunshine

Well i am going to do that eventually, however I do not want to just cut off all ties entirely.


QuoteThe decision to undergo an abortions should almost always be of the woman and the woman alone.
Or a FTM (whoever has the womb)
Shawn Sunshine Strickland The Strickalator

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peky

Quote from: Shawn Sunshine link=topic=133297.msg1059645#msg1059645 date=1357600652

Or a FTM (whoever has the womb)
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Not in your life time
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Elspeth

Quote from: peky on January 07, 2013, 05:21:21 PM
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on January 07, 2013, 05:17:32 PM
Or a FTM (whoever has the womb)

Not in your life time

Not sure I understand your point, peky. Or perhaps you read FTM as MTF?

Short of a hysterectomy, FTMs are capable of becoming pregnant, even when dosed to male benchmark levels of testosterone. As long as the uterus and other parts are intact, it's still a potential risk, assuming sperm finds its way inside.
"Our lives are not our own. From womb to tomb, we are bound to others. Past and present. And by each crime and every kindness, we birth our future."
- Sonmi-451 in Cloud Atlas
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peky

Quote from: Elspeth on January 07, 2013, 05:46:31 PM
Not in your life time


Not sure I understand your point, peky. Or perhaps you read FTM as MTF?

Short of a hysterectomy, FTMs are capable of becoming pregnant, even when dosed to male benchmark levels of testosterone. As long as the uterus and other parts are intact, it's still a potential risk, assuming sperm finds its way inside.

You are right, I tend to invert and transpose letters special when capitalized. I stand corrected. And yes my comment extends to pregnant FTM as well
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LilDevilOfPrada

Quote from: Elspeth on January 07, 2013, 05:46:31 PM
Not in your life time


Not sure I understand your point, peky. Or perhaps you read FTM as MTF?

Short of a hysterectomy, FTMs are capable of becoming pregnant, even when dosed to male benchmark levels of testosterone. As long as the uterus and other parts are intact, it's still a potential risk, assuming sperm finds its way inside.

This true I saw a documentry on a trans couple where the mother MTF and father FTM were on HRT for a few years, no SRS yet, and still concieved a child, even tho in medical terms MTF on HRT for 6 months should be infertile and I wasnt to sure on the FTM side of the medical stuff tho.
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