Hi Jenny!
It's a been a long time since your surgery so you're probably very bored of answering questions on this subject, but...
I'd just like to say a massive massive massive thank you to you for creating this thread and introducing so many of us to Yeson!!!
I had always ruled out VFS as the procedures sounded horrific and the results I had heard were even worse... For the three years of my transition I had been concentrating on other surgeries (FFS/GRS etc...) but no matter how well I passed visually it was always ruined when I spoke. This has had the effect of making me more and more introverted and silent in public. And when I do speak it's very quietly
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Like you, no matter how good my practised voice got in private, I've always found it impossible to do in front of people... especially friends! It's so ridiculous to get stage fright about my voice when friends have seen me through so many other changes and have always been supportive! Being introduced as Olivia on work conference calls but not having a female voice has always been a massive stress to me. I have tried using a female voice on calls but as soon as I have to concentrate on the subject of the call my voice ends up slipping back down...
Early this year, while I was in Marbella having some FFS revisions, my surgeon mentioned that he met Dr Kim at WPATH in Thailand and that it was certainly worth looking into VFS with Yeson. I googled Yeson when I got home and I saw your 2 month video and started reading this post. I was completely blown away that a procedure like this existed that gave such great results and had so few if any risks!
I emailed Yeson and spoke with Jessie (who is SO lovely!) and booked surgery shortly after
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It had to wait a little while as I was a few weeks away from GRS... and then I had to wait 2 months after that before I was allowed further surgery... Boo! Strangely a friend of mine (who I hadn't spoken to about it at the time) had already booked her surgery with Yeson for when I was having my GRS and had booked her GRS for when I had my surgery with Yeson. It's been lovely that we have been able to chat to each other while we were both going through surgeries that the other had just been through!
Anyway... I returned from an AMAZING trip to Seoul late last week
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Seoul was one of the nicest places that I have been to, so friendly and the shopping (especially cosmetics) was to die for!
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The pre-op went well, the tests they run are extensive to say the least (It's so weird to see videos of your vocal chords!) Some of the tests are a little uncomfortable to do, especially the one that you have to make noises when you have a camera down your throat... it's almost impossible not to gag! Dr Kim went through all of the test results and seemed happy that I'd have a good result. My starting pitches were 143hz when speaking normally and 165hz when making an effort (although I think I was a bit shy and could have done much better...)
The surgery itself was pretty painless in general... Waking up from the anaesthetic was pretty unpleasant as I couldn't breathe properly, had a MASSIVE tongue, bad headache and very sore throat. This only lasted a few hours though... as soon as I was allowed some water and food I started feeling much better
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I was SO nervous at the post op exam... I was really worried that somehow I would have damaged the op site (Apparently I made a noise while I was asleep one night that sounded like a dolphin!) and that it would all be ruined. Luckily all was good and Dr Kim said I was healing perfectly! The little noise he makes you make while checking your new folds does indeed sound like a high pitched zombie! I had to have the Botox injection as well as I had some tremor... I was sure this was going to hurt like crazy, but I barely felt it. After that I went through the voice exercises with Jessie and another nurse... this was fairly hysterical as I really struggled to do the lip trills (I think it's because of my FFS lip lift) and could only make a farting noise for ages. We were all laughing (me silently of course) hopefully I'll be able to do them when it comes to it after two months!
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The staff at Yeson were so lovely, Jessie was a complete sweetie (I'll certainly be keeping in touch and visiting her sometime) Dr Kim was such a lovely, understanding and patient surgeon who went all out to explain everything in great detail. I also have to say my nurse was amazing as well, such a friendly, smiley, bubbly girl (she reminded me a bit of nurse Joy from Pokemon...)
So I'm now 12 days post op... I noticed that you posted a sample of yourself here after 11 days, but it's expired
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Is there any way you could repost the couple of very early samples you posted? Or if not post on here, message them to me? I risked couple of words today, and sampled as you did "hello I'm Olivia" into Praat. I was a little surprised to see an average pitch of 231hz... a gain of 88hz in 11 days... erm what?! I'm not sure if I was straining to make that sound of not... it was pretty hard to get anything out tbh... And I sounded a bit like a cartoon character that's been punched in the neck... is this normal?! I've had no pain post-op really and hardly any of the mucus that other people have complained about. I've been drinking a ton of aloe gel which might have helped.
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All in all I couldn't recommend Yeson more highly. If anyone is considering any vocal fem surgery that is not Yeson, please stop!
I'll stop waffling now...
Thank you so so so much again for making such a huge difference to my life Jenny! Had you not posted about Yeson and made those YouTube videos, I would not have had this surgery, hopefully be well on the way to passing completely, getting all of my confidence back and being a very happy bunny!
Loves
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Liv xxx