Quote from: Sir Wafflinton on January 05, 2014, 11:44:35 PM
How can "African Americans have larger penises" not be a race thing 
Anyway, I was talking directly about the information that the graph was based on. Basically someone just took a whole lot of information that was made up and graphed it and a few years later someone posted that graph on a Trans* forum so everyone can feel sad about having small dicks.
Sir Wafflinton, the data are the data. You can draw from it whatever you want, or do not want. There is nothing inherently prejudiced or racist about it.
In terms of scientific study, you are not likely to find one done today, based on race, because the concept of race is rather undefined. Failing to find solid scientific evidence, we fall back on "expert" observation.
Here is one such testimonial:
"My conclusions, I guess, can be based on my observations clinically," says Dr. Robert Stubbs, a Canadian penis-enhancement surgeon. "I think there is definitely a racial difference, and at this point – and I'm quite prepared to be proven wrong – there are three sizes: black, white and yellow (Asian), in descending order."And another:
"Anthropological studies from the past 100 years have really documented that, on average, penis size of east Asian males are smaller than western European and North American males," states Dr. Robert Francoeur, editor of the The International Encyclopedia of Sexuality. "And African males, on average, have a larger penis size." On the opposite side of the argument,
Toronto-based physician, Dr. Jerald Bain, who treats men with reproductive disorders, thinks there isn't yet an answer he's satisfied with. "But I can tell you from my own personal experience in seeing hundreds and hundreds of men – and I have the added advantage of working in Toronto, a very international city – that there is no difference from one ethnic origin to another."Interestingly, Bain makes this observation:
"We measured [men's] height and found that penis size was related to shoe size – but only insofar as it related to the general size of the man," explains Bain. Although the statistical relationship was weak, it was there, and taller men tend to have larger appendages of all sorts, including the penis.Let me add my own experience. From the time I was in seventh grade, we showered after taking our physical education class, or if we participated in school sports. I have seen lots of naked natal men. Thousands. I would agree with the Bain observation on stature and Stubbs observations about a distribution according to race/ethnicity. In my own experience, somewhat more than a weak statistical relationship.
My post was no more intended to make anyone fell bad about themselves, than would one talking about options for breast enhancement in MtFs. Brandon wants to have a functional, natal male-like penis. More power to him. He wants to meet his own perceived cultural norms. This is no more racist or demeaning than an MtF wanting DDD-cup boobs.
It is about the individual's self-image, and I will respect his.
