Size does matter

[geek]

That's true and it's always something to look forward to, if not for us, then future generations

[Cindy]

Don't be sad.

If you look at the progress medical science has made, in relation to the care and treatment of transpeople, you have to be hopeful.

80 years ago there were no hormones and no surgeries (except castration for the Mtf/eunuch).

How far along has FtM bottom surgery come in, say, the last 20 years?  A long way.

I'm in the yearly grant writing cycle at the moment, my chances of funding? If my grants are excellent 1/5. I have no publications in journals above 6.6 IF the last year, that is a high IF but not high enough it decreases my chances by 50%. Mmmmm what is the cost of a a nuclear aircraft carrier again? One of them, just one would advance science by decades. But a grant for advancing phalloplasty? Unless the USA military want it, in your dreams. Sadly.

[LordKAT]

I'm in the yearly grant writing cycle at the moment, my chances of funding? If my grants are excellent 1/5. I have no publications in journals above 6.6 IF the last year, that is a high IF but not high enough it decreases my chances by 50%. Mmmmm what is the cost of a a nuclear aircraft carrier again? One of them, just one would advance science by decades. But a grant for advancing phalloplasty? Unless the USA military want it, in your dreams. Sadly.

Unfortunately that is very true.

[Sir Wafflinton]

Sir Wafflinton, the data are the data.  You can draw from it whatever you want, or do not want.  There is nothing inherently prejudiced or racist about it.

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose. The problem is that you are presenting this data like fact, when it has been thoroughly discredited. It is more I get annoyed when people don't take 2 seconds to Google scholar their info. I could say "vaccines cause Autism, the data is the data" and have a graph to back it up but the problem is my data is crap.

I am going to say there is something inherently prejudiced about this research. If someone has a (racist) pet theory, creates a ridiculously unreliable research project supporting said theory, finds something that can be passed off as a correlation and then does not investigate further then I'd call that prejudiced.

If you want to call me out about the ridiculously unreliable part, I suggest you read these first:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0191886988901365
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0092656689900299

"This ordering was predicted from a gene-based evolutionary theory of r/K reproductive strategies in which a trade-off occurs between gamete production and social behaviors such as intelligence, law-abidingness, and parental care." (from the "parent research" of the study I believe your data comes from)

I'm sorry but I don't understand how this is not racist.

He wants to meet his own perceived cultural norms. 

Yes but "perceived cultural norms" are the reasons why so many women have eating disorders, why plastic surgery to make Asian faces look western is a thriving business, why men of all races feel insecure about their penis size. When the perception is out of line with reality and this is causing distress, I don't see why it is wrong to let people see they are not as "abnormal" as they think.


It makes me feel uncomfortable. I am average male height but I have many Asian friends who are taller than me. If I said I fell bad because it is culturally normal that I (a white guy) should be taller than them because "short Asians" is a cultural stereotype I'd hope everyone here would tell me that there is nothing wrong with being who I am.

[Cindy]

I'm agreeing with both of you. (Jamie D and Sir Wafflinton)

Please put it in another topic.

That is not a request.

Cindy

[Sir Wafflinton]

My sincere apologies to everyone. This is the first time I have ever met anyone who openly thinks there are any real differences between individuals of differing ethnicities and it just surprised me a little and I got carried away. These forums are meant to be a place to find support and not somewhere to squabble amongst ourselves. I'll try to stick on topic in the future.

[Cindy]

My sincere apologies to everyone. This is the first time I have ever met anyone who openly thinks there are any real differences between individuals of differing ethnicities and it just surprised me a little and I got carried away. These forums are meant to be a place to find support and not somewhere to squabble amongst ourselves. I'll try to stick on topic in the future.

I'm a professional scientist, I think your argument well made, please start a thread about truth in scientific presentation of 'fact'.

Cindy

[Natkat]

I don't want to worry to much about my size I live 20 min away from a street filled with sexshops so if someone is not satified with my size they can go there and pick a dick for me in any size, colour, vibration movements or whatever they want.
if they dont like that either then I guess there alittle boring for my taste .

[LordKAT]

I don't want to worry to much about my size I live 20 min away from a street filled with sexshops so if someone is not satified with my size they can go there and pick a dick for me in any size, colour, vibration movements or whatever they want.
if they dont like that either then I guess there alittle boring for my taste .

Good attitude to have.

[Ayden]

I don't want to worry to much about my size I live 20 min away from a street filled with sexshops so if someone is not satified with my size they can go there and pick a dick for me in any size, colour, vibration movements or whatever they want.
if they dont like that either then I guess there alittle boring for my taste .

Thanks! This is the attitude I try to have, but you worded it much better than I could have.

[chuck]

Umm, how do I say this?

If you look at the distribution by ethnicity, you can see African-Americans are, on average, larger than other ethnicities.

And yet, there are like 4 billion Asians.  It's not the heat of the meat or the angle of the dangle that counts.

YUP! African Americans are on average one tenth of an inch ( 2.5mm - about the thickness of 7 pieces of computer paper, or a very well trimmed fingernal) above their Caucasian brothers.

As for me .02 about size being important. Yup, for some women it is important, but I encourage everyone to ask the next woman they see to hold their hands about 8 inches apart. Most people have no idea what an 8inch penis looks like.

I have been with plenty of women and I am always curious about this size thing. I asked the last girl I was with if I was bigger than her ex. We were sort of joking about it and I just got curious. Her response (and this is after she had lots of sex with me) "I would need to put it in my mouth to tell you". It turns out I am a good 2 inches longer and inch thicker than her ex and SHE COULD NOT TELL during sex.

Also, 75 percent of women can not orgasm from penetration. If that doesn't tell you something, than there's nothing to be done. 

[Brandon]

I already know that 75 percent of woman cannot orgasm during penetration

[aleon515]

YUP! African Americans are on average one tenth of an inch ( 2.5mm - about the thickness of 7 pieces of computer paper, or a very well trimmed fingernal) above their Caucasian brothers.

As for me .02 about size being important. Yup, for some women it is important, but I encourage everyone to ask the next woman they see to hold their hands about 8 inches apart. Most people have no idea what an 8inch penis looks like.

I have been with plenty of women and I am always curious about this size thing. I asked the last girl I was with if I was bigger than her ex. We were sort of joking about it and I just got curious. Her response (and this is after she had lots of sex with me) "I would need to put it in my mouth to tell you". It turns out I am a good 2 inches longer and inch thicker than her ex and SHE COULD NOT TELL during sex.

Also, 75 percent of women can not orgasm from penetration. If that doesn't tell you something, than there's nothing to be done.

Interesting post Chuck. Reminds me of the joke. Although it is a visual one, but I think people will get it anyway. It's either "why can't men do math?" or "why are men such big liars?" And then you hold your fingers apart from each other in some small way. "Because they think that's 6 inches".

I lived as a female for a long time, okay I wasn't a very good one maybe. Okay I was a complete failure. LOL. But it didn't mean I didn't' hear conversations. *Some* women are size queens but not even most of them are. And the alleged hugeness of African American men is more from porn than from RL.

I've heard of trans guys who can have penetrative sex before surgery. I'm sure they do this by being very good love makers.

--Jay

[Chaos]

Yep 75 is a pretty big number when it comes to penetration.I learned that as long as you got skills and good with your hands,tongue and pretty much everything else-not only will she O but she won't give two sh++s what your size is lol

[Ryan55]

since most women cant get off to just penetration alone, I don't think size really does matter, long as you can please your partner...sure it bothers me sometimes because I lack any sort of penis and sure I get jealous at my girls ex's cause they had a damn penis, but I think long as you can please your partner and make her legs shake, your good, also to big isn't good, it would just be painful, I'd rather be able to be balls deep than half my rod in there

[Calder Smith]

I haven't had sex yet but I don't think size matters. It's not about the size of your penis but the way you use it.

[Brandon]

I was talking about from a womans perspective.

[Ryan55]

just ask the girl your with, I asked mine, most chicks don't care about size

[aleon515]

I was talking about from a womans perspective.

So was I, I've heard a lot of conversations. I would guess more than you have, just statistically speaking that's likely to be the case. I will tell you MOST women don't care, some do. Go to a sex shop and get a big one and that's all you need.

--Jay

[assorted_human]

just ask the girl your with, I asked mine, most chicks don't care about size

My last girl friend didn't even care when I told her I wasn't going to get bottom surgery (not to say if medicine advances, in fact I'm a willing human guinea pig if they can in my lifetime). I barely even used my feel-doe on her. She preferred everything else I had to offer and she is 100% straight.
I also have a group of that fights over me now that I'm single because I'm just great in bed. Women really don't care and if they do they are't worth caring about.