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GRS & BA surgery with Chett August 2014

Started by Donna Elvira, July 19, 2014, 05:25:22 AM

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calicarly


Quote from: Shantel on August 29, 2014, 09:25:34 AM

@ Carly if that's your pre-FFS avatar photo I can't imagine why you would need any further facial beautifying dear, very pretty!

Thanks Shantel hun, but well, I think that's the magic of hair, make up and some ok facial features. But I still had to bring some of those features to female range.
Low dose HRT-2004
Full time and full dose HRT-2009
BA/Rhinoplasty-May 2013
FFS-Aug 2014
Body contouring-Jan 2015
GRS- Feb 2016
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Shantel

Quote from: calicarly on August 29, 2014, 03:24:13 PM
Thanks Shantel hun, but well, I think that's the magic of hair, make up and some ok facial features. But I still had to bring some of those features to female range.

You look dynamite there, so are you going to put something new up?
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Julia-Madrid

Quote from: calicarly on August 29, 2014, 03:24:13 PM
Thanks Shantel hun, but well, I think that's the magic of hair, make up and some ok facial features. But I still had to bring some of those features to female range.

Hair is indeed quite the most magical stuff...!!!  Makeup too.  The people at passport control just can't reconcile my passport photo with the girl they see, and 80% of that is probably due to hair and makeup.  But the 20% due to FFS is absolutely vital as it removes those "maybe, maybe not" markers! 
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calicarly

Quote from: Shantel on August 29, 2014, 04:06:41 PM
You look dynamite there, so are you going to put something new up?

It's all in my FFS thread Hun ;) x x

Quote from: Julia-Madrid on August 30, 2014, 02:23:22 AM
Hair is indeed quite the most magical stuff...!!!  Makeup too.  The people at passport control just can't reconcile my passport photo with the girl they see, and 80% of that is probably due to hair and makeup.  But the 20% due to FFS is absolutely vital as it removes those "maybe, maybe not" markers! 

I think that's the thing Julia, ffs just brings you to the unmistakably female range... I mean if you look at Donna's before and after she went from unmistakably one gender to the opposite and that's the power of it!
Low dose HRT-2004
Full time and full dose HRT-2009
BA/Rhinoplasty-May 2013
FFS-Aug 2014
Body contouring-Jan 2015
GRS- Feb 2016
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Donna Elvira

Quote from: calicarly on August 30, 2014, 05:45:23 PM
... I mean if you look at Donna's before and after she went from unmistakably one gender to the opposite and that's the power of it!

...and on the back of that, Donna, finally able to live comfortably as a woman,  went on to the logical last step in her transition, GRS. As good a way as any to introduce another little update on my stay in Thailand which is feeling more like a holiday with every passing day.

Since Saturday (10 days post-op), I have been going out and about pretty much as I please, testing all the local restaurants on the street outside the hotel where it is difficult to spend more than 200 THB (less than 5€)  on a full meal. I could probably already handle a trip into central Bangkok but prefer to give myself a little more time before doing so, no doubt from next Saturday onwards.

Otherwise, I now have my daily routines well in place starting with a wake up at 06h00 and generally ending with me asleep before 22h00. I don't sleep at all during the day, feeling no need to do so and have been sleeping much better since getting into this rythme. I have dilations and breast massaging to do three times a day, one session around 07h30, the next about 13h30 and the last at 20h30. Each session requires about 1h20 in total but that's still only 4 hours our of a 16 hour day leaving me loads of time for chilling out and relaxing in general.  I could easily work but have chosen not to push it too much and simply enjoy one of the rare moments I have had in recent years when I can just relax and take it easy.     

I've already gotten through 2 books on my Kindle (very pleasant when dilating), one and a half seasons of the L-Word and a few movies on Netflix. I've also been spending more and more time with the other girls here, a group of 4 French girls and 4 Americans presently recovering from surgery and all in pretty good form even if some of us (including me, by far the oldest of the group), are recovering a good deal faster than others. Hard to know what that can be put down to but it's clear that some people definitely go through more pain than others and I seem to be at the extreme low end of the pain spectrum. (probably used up a lot of my pain potential in previous lives...  ;)). For info, I have stopped all pain killers since last Monday ie. VJ-day + 5.

In my own case, the only thing that has caused any degree of discomfort is getting the dilator past the PC muscle but even that has just required a little bit of relaxation. It will be interesting to see how things go when I move up to size #2 on Wednesday. 

Otherwise, today, among others, I spent two hours by the pool in a two piece swimming suit, the first time I have done this in my life and I could even handle sitting on the wooden lounge chairs without any cushion.

The fact is, there is such a huge difference between the very easy ride I have had so far and the fears I had pre-surgery, that I almost have to pinch myself to believe that this is for real. I am obviously aware that there is still plenty of time for problems to arise but I guess the risk of some of the real biggies like a major haemmorhage , retreat a little more all the time.

So right now, between having this surgery finally done and generally having a very pleasant stay, I am one very happy person. Difficult to beat!
Hugs
Donna

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Monkeymel

Am glad you are having a relaxing experience. Not all what is anticipated beforehand! Why some recover faster than others will probably never be known.

That PC muscle can be quite stubborn. But it does relax and it when it does it is important to remember the feeling throughout the body. So that you can return to it easier the next time. Each time it will become a little easier.

Enjoy the cammadre atmosphere - and you can get into Bangkok for a bit of shopping etc. giving yourself relaxation time is not only good for the brain - but body and PC as well...

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Julia-Madrid

Quote from: Donna E on September 01, 2014, 08:42:54 AM

I've already gotten through 2 books on my Kindle (very pleasant when dilating)....


Sorry Donna, couldn't resist.   That line provoked a very unexpected mental image of a Kindle being put to use in ways which Jeff Bezos couldn't ever have imagined.   ;D

xxx
A/J
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Donna Elvira

2 wks post-op and, apart from answering eventual questions, probably one of my last posts on this thread. This morning I moved up to dilator N°2 and, like everything else so far, it was pretty easy. To help, towards the end of the session on dilator N° 1, I used that dilator a bit like a wedge to stretch the PC muscle enough to facilate entry of dilator N° 2. All very gentle of course but it definitely worked and I still have no pain, no discharge of any kind etc..

When the nurses came around it was confirmed that it was all very clean and healing well which translated into an autorisation to henceforth go anywhere I want so long as I walk slowly and don't push myself too much. This afternoon I used my "Get out of Jail Free' card to do a 20 min walk to a spa and massage centre up the road from the hotel where I had a really excellent 90min massage, relieving all the stress that had built up in my neck and back during the stay in the clinic and immediately afterwards.  As a bonus, the masseuse was really sweet, giggling all the time when I let out little screams of pain from the job she was doing on me.  She also thought my curly hair was very sexy  :) (see avatar photo!). 

So, with a week left here , I'll be able to do a lot more tourism than I thought and will be going home looking far more like a holiday maker than someone who has just done both GRS and BA surgery.

Obviously, problems can still occur but this has been one very positive story so far!
Hugs
Donna

P.S. Someone suggested to me in private that the trouble free ride I have so far enjoyed might be thanks to my "rustic" Irish genes. I replied that this is what comes from generations of cross fertilization with mountain sheep, ....which also provides a neat explanation for my outrageously curly hair... :)

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Donna Elvira

Quote from: Julia-Madrid on September 01, 2014, 09:16:45 AM
Sorry Donna, couldn't resist.   That line provoked a very unexpected mental image of a Kindle being put to use in ways which Jeff Bezos couldn't ever have imagined.   ;D

xxx
A/J

Julia,
If you are familiar with Jeff Bezos' version of a kindle, I think you will agree that it takes a massive amount of imagination to visualize anyone doing anything other than reading with it. At a stretch, maybe playing frizbee too...?  :)   
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LizMarie

Donna,

May I ask how the BA has impacted your dilation and other aspects of post-GRS recovery lately? Could you comment on that, even if it's been a non-issue?

Thanks! Dr. Chett is on my list now that it's very clear my stateside insurer won't touch this topic without a big fight.
The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of life is to give it away.



~ Cara Elizabeth
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Donna Elvira

Quote from: LizMarie on September 04, 2014, 04:07:05 PM
Donna,

May I ask how the BA has impacted your dilation and other aspects of post-GRS recovery lately? Could you comment on that, even if it's been a non-issue?

Thanks! Dr. Chett is on my list now that it's very clear my stateside insurer won't touch this topic without a big fight.

Hi LizMarie.
The only impact BA surgery has had is to add an extra 3 x 25mins of quite physical exercises/day on top of the dilation schedule. These exercises (heavy massaging) are necessary to insure your implants don't look like "bolt on breasts". So far, this side of things is also going well but, taking eveything into account ie.  preparation, execution and cleaning afterwards, my post surgery care takes up a good 3 x 1.5 hours day.
Otherwise, apart from the discomfort of the pressure bandaging I had for 3.5 days after the surgery, doing the BA along with GRS has not been a problem at all.
Hugs.
Donna

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LizMarie

Thank you, Donna!

My own breasts have been A cup range for a long while now and while they are filling out a bit under progesterone, they aren't really getting any larger so I've been contemplating BA as well. Since I've got Thailand as my most likely destination for GRS, I'm considering doing what you have done as well. It's good to hear that it's not been an undue burden.
The meaning of life is to find your gift. The purpose of life is to give it away.



~ Cara Elizabeth
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Julia-Madrid

Quote from: LizMarie on September 05, 2014, 10:06:24 AM
Thank you, Donna!

My own breasts have been A cup range for a long while now and while they are filling out a bit under progesterone, they aren't really getting any larger so I've been contemplating BA as well. Since I've got Thailand as my most likely destination for GRS, I'm considering doing what you have done as well. It's good to hear that it's not been an undue burden.

Hey LizMarie.  I'm going to be at Dr Chett in July next year.  Same story as Donna.  Just some food for thought....

Hugs
Julia
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Donna Elvira

#73
With just three days to go before returning home on Thursday, one last post on my experience here in Thailand. Really on my feet again, I spent a good part of the weekend at the Chatuchak weekend market, a very full half day on Saturday just to look around and see what the place had to offer and a shorter half day yesterday to actually do some souvenir shopping.
There is a huge variety of stuff on offer, from very cheap teashirts to very expensive antiques with lots of stuff in between and it has got to be one of the best places in Bangkok to find the perfect souvenir to bring home.
It is also just a very interesting place to simply experience with street artists, massage shops (I had two terrific foot massages) and lots of restaurants and food stalls.  See photos below:


- Traditional Thai musicien


- Mixing drinks with style


- Thai Country & Western


This morning I had my final appointment with Dr Chattawut and, as expected, there was nothing to declare. Two and a half weeks post surgery all is quiet on the western front with strictly no issues at all. I'm still quiet tired of course and really feel it going up stairs. I have also lost a good 3 kgs (6.6lbs) compared to my weight at my pre-surgery appointment  but that's it and I actually think I would be embarassed to use the wheelchair service that is supposed to be provided at the airport on Thursday. Since I was able to spend hours walking around the market, I guess I'm also capable of getting around the airport on my own.

So, right to the end it will have been much, much easier than I ever expected and I would also have to insist on just how warm and friendly everyone here has been, from the staff at the clinic to the personnal here in the Rama. It really has been a very pleasant experience and while I'm very happy to be going home, my whole stay has had a real vacation feel to it and I haven't felt so relaxed in years.

- Chilling out at the pool




- My first lady Teddybear



So a big thumbs up to Chett & his team from one very happy patient.

Donna
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Shantel

It was really marvelous how everything worked out so well for you Donna, and your commentaries about Bangkok have been very interesting, thanks for taking us all along with you. Btw - I purchased half a dozen black star sapphires there with six points each there many years ago for $4 each, that is the sapphire capitol of the world and a great place to pick up some stones that can be made into a nice piece of jewelry later.
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Catherine Sarah

Sorry Donna, I just couldn't refuse. (I think I need to visit my Endo and get my meds balanced out; again)

Quote from: Donna E on July 19, 2014, 05:25:22 AM
As indicated in the title to this thread,...........

You're over a thousand years old. My goodness you carry your age well. How do you do it :icon_lol: :icon_cry:

Huggs
Catherine




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Donna Elvira

Quote from: Catherine Sarah on September 08, 2014, 10:02:37 AM
Sorry Donna, I just couldn't refuse. (I think I need to visit my Endo and get my meds balanced out; again)

You're over a thousand years old. My goodness you carry your age well. How do you do it :icon_lol: :icon_cry:

Huggs
Catherine

Hi Catherine Sarah,
A lapsus that was already explained in the "PS" associated with this post.... :)  https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,169593.msg1482643.html#msg1482643

That being said, after my stay here in Thailand,  a country deeply influenced by Buddhism, I'm almost ready to believe in reincarnation, hoping that with my transition, I will at last achieve the highlest level of enlightenment!  :angel:
Given my passion for classic Greek and Roman history, I suspect my first passage on earth was probably back in those days but don't dare imagine in what form...   :)
Hugs
Donna
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Catherine Sarah

Hi Donna,

Sorry I didn't read the PS bit. I was no doubt laughing too hard from your previous paragraphs.

Quote from: Donna E on July 26, 2014, 11:45:30 AM
When he asks me what my expectations regarding surgery are I will however have to come up with the 15" deep vagina

Lordie Girl. You planning on parking the car there overnight?  I guess there's nothing wrong with that idea. Keeps it off the street and you'll probably get an insurance discount from the reduced theft risk. Of the car, that is, not your vj.

Quote from: Donna E on July 26, 2014, 11:45:30 AM
I know that in certain Bangkok bars, vaginas are used for projecting ping-pong balls

Hey. Thanks for the great party starter idea. Next time I have the girls round for a Saturday afternoon BBQ, when the conversation dips I can always suggest a game of ping pong or two. Or start a new pelvic exercise class at the gym. Meditation with a difference at yoga. Maybe even an Olympic sports event.

Quote from: Donna E on July 26, 2014, 11:45:30 AMbut personally would prefer one that could play the flute, the oboe or an equally elegant wind instrument.. 

Now that one caps it all. The mind boggles with the permutations. You could be a contestant on X-Factor being your very own one woman sextet group. Fancy a wind instrument surreptitiously placed in every orrifice of your body. A Barry sax in your vj using your feet to play with. Obviously to supply that amount of wind you'll have to get the circular breathing down pat and eat a lot of prunes and cabbage before the show.

Huggs
Catherine

P.S. Give my regards to Brian Buro next time you bump into him.




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Donna Elvira

EPILOGUE




I got home yesterday evening after a very long day but with just about enough energy left to do the required post surgery exercises before getting a quick bite to eat and getting to bed.

Today, my birthday, I got a message from my attorney telling me that my Civil Identity Change had been approved at this morning's hearing and that I should receive a copy of the judgement mid October thus allowing me to get my birth certificate changed and then all my other official ID's. Hopefully it will all be  done by the end of the year finally allowing Donna Antonia to turn the page and simply get on with her life, all aspects of transition terminated.

Between my recent surgeries, getting home to my dearest wife and the news from my attorney, my emotions have been running very high over the last 48 hours and I have been regularly surprised by waves of tears welling up out of nowhere. What a journey this has been, gruelling some of the time, exhilarating at other times and without any question a rebirth. At the end of this road that I started out on in Sept 2008, I am a young woman of 57 setting out on a new life at a time so many others of my age are thinking of retirement and finally going onto cruise control.

I would like to believe that this journey has allowed me to progress as a human being too, far more sensitive to the mysteries and the injustices of life. No doubt it can't be compared with Siddharta's journey of enlightenment but without any doubt, the journey of transition obliges us to ask many questions of ourselves and what we are doing on this planet. In my own case, it has allowed me to fully understand the power of love as without the constant support and love of my wife, equalled by my ever deeper love for her, I don't believe  I could have survived the last few years.

I bought the bronze statuette of the Buddha in the photo above at the Chatuchak market last Sunday, both as a reminder of this journey and as a reminder that as long as my life continues the journey will continue. My wife, a "semi-practising" Catholic, jumped on the opportunity to push the idea of also getting a statuette of the "Holy Mother", an idea that brings back some very negative memories from my own Catholic childhood but I guess after all of this, I owe her at least that...  :)

To love and to life!
Hugs
Donna


P.S. To Catherine Sarah. Glad you enjoyed this somewhat zany thread which, like the others on this forum, is always a collective and more often than not, a mutually reinforcing endeavor!




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Shantel

Happy Birthday and happy new life Donna!  :icon_birthday:
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