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The "Transgender" vs "Transsexual" terminology

Started by YinYanga, August 09, 2014, 12:27:08 PM

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Quote from: suzifrommd on August 19, 2014, 04:01:25 PM
I never understood why that word bothered us so much. Then I heard someone say that "->-bleeped-<-" is the last word you hear right before they knock you to the pavement to kick the $#!+ out of you.

Now I understand.
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When I was first learning about this stuff, I said that word once, and it felt so much like an insult or degrading term, I will never say it ever again.. Maybe cuz I was so bullied in school, or just cuz I'm old enough to know better now..?
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mrs izzy

I just want to add.

Are not all these things guidelines and not requirements.

The scales themselves show difference in examples of the scale.

I was Type Six: True Transsexual (high intensity)

Kinsey Scale: 6
6 Exclusively homosexual, with no heterosexual experience

But i was as stated
Sex Object Choice and Sex Life: Intensely desires relations with normal male as female if young. May have been married and have children, by using fantasies in intercourse. (totally different then the scale)

So again we all have to remember these are just suggested guides to help.

So many take everything as black and white. Nothing is that easy in life.

As long as each person gets the treatment they need and is happy, who cares what some paper might say.

Back to the topic at hand The "Transgender" vs "Transsexual" terminology
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alexjace

I personally prefer transsexual because trans, in Latin, means moving across and I'm moving across my sex - my gender is staying the same.  However, I tend to just say trans and often transgender because when I say transsexual people tend to assume it's a sex thing/fetish or something.
alexander. gender non conformist. queer. trans masculine. neuroatypical.
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Dread_Faery

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Natkat

Quote from: YinYanga on August 09, 2014, 12:27:08 PM
Hi hi

Recently I got into a conversation with a fellow transitioner (MtF) and we got to the topic of self-identification: transgender vs transsexual. She sees herself as transsexual and thinks transgender is a misnomer and for me its vice versa, it's just that I am not judgemental about people using either and getting to know someone personally is a better way to avoid the label altogether

It's hard when I get called transsexual because to me that term would mean something completely different: sexual attraction to (trans-people). I thought this was about gender, so I adopted TG.

While I am typing this I feel its more of a non-issue than I sometimes read it is. Some people are really adamant to point out the difference. Sure I know TG is more of an umbrella term and TS falls under it but for me they mean the same ...in my case

You should call yourself what feel right and people should respect it.
I dont like the word transsexual. because for me Sex and sexual make it sound like it something
sexually or has anything to do with sexuality.
I prefern transgender, or just trans, or transperson. its a more wide term but I feel it a good alternative.

I dont get those who tell you transgender are "fake transexuals" transexual are under the umbrella of transgender which include many diffrent people who feel there gender identity dose not fit complitely on how they where asigned at birth, so its a large mix where transexual are more specific, on the other hand it can be easy to make clear "what kind of transgender you are, by saying "im mtf" "im ftm" "im genderqueer" "binary" "non-binary" or whatever label you identify with.
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maybe you are in a comunity where certain word are being used in certain ways. the terms change alot from where you are, exemple can ladyboy be an accepted word and a shamefull word. But I think it most important you use a word who feel describe you the best.

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Cindy

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skin

Quote from: Natkat on September 18, 2014, 03:54:23 PM
I dont like the word transsexual. because for me Sex and sexual make it sound like it something
sexually or has anything to do with sexuality.
I prefern transgender, or just trans, or transperson. its a more wide term but I feel it a good alternative.

That's why I never use the term.  Enough people already project sexual themes upon transpeople, so I try avoid language that makes that easier.
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