Selective Service and teachers in the US (Urgent please help)

[androidnick]

Alright so this is a question for anyone who is a teacher in the U.S. and has applied for a job and gotten hired AFTER transitioning. I'm in the last phase of the hiring process. All I have to do is show proof of residency and so I think all I need is my license and my Social Security card as proof of identification to finish off the I-9 form. I've already lost a job due to issues with selective service. Because I never signed up for it and still haven't sent in the letter to get me officially disqualified from having selective service, I'm scared that I'm not gonna be able to officially start this job and essentially lose ANOTHER job opportunity. I'm just hoping since I'm technically being hired by the County rather than the state, that means selective service won't even come up. If anyone can help me I'd greatly appreciate it. Otherwise I'm facing 2 days of agony and waiting for Monday to come, not knowing what is going to happen.

[stephaniec]

I really don't know, but if it's a  government job all info is at their finger tips

[Devlyn]

I don't think you're required to register. Go about 3/4 of the way down the page. https://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm

[androidnick]

I don't think you're required to register. Go about 3/4 of the way down the page. https://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm

That is absolutely correct. BUT the issue I faced last time was that because I have my gender as male, and they couldn't put me as having signed up for it since I didn't and can't, I had chosen the "N/A" option when doing the application. But then the job needed a letter from selective service stating that this was correct. So either way, I need to deal with selective service. They needed a letter stating why I was ineligible. And the beautiful frekin thing is that now if you try and call selective service, NOBODY picks up. It is an automated system and I have only ever been able to speak to a person once. So I had to email them and I got a response saying that again I need to send information to them with a paper saying why I THINK I'm ineligible for selective service so that they can then send me a letter saying I am indeed ineligible.

[Devlyn]

That is absolutely correct. BUT the issue I faced last time was that because I have my gender as male, and they couldn't put me as having signed up for it since I didn't and can't, I had chosen the "N/A" option when doing the application. But then the job needed a letter from selective service stating that this was correct. So either way, I need to deal with selective service. They needed a letter stating why I was ineligible. And the beautiful frekin thing is that now if you try and call selective service, NOBODY picks up. It is an automated system and I have only ever been able to speak to a person once. So I had to email them and I got a response saying that again I need to send information to them with a paper saying why I THINK I'm ineligible for selective service so that they can then send me a letter saying I am indeed ineligible.

Why do you say "didn't and can't"? Are you over the legal age?

[androidnick]

Why do you say "didn't and can't"? Are you over the legal age?

I'm 22. I didn't sign up because at 18 I wasn't transitioning. And a few weeks ago I DID try to sign up for it just to get the issues fixed but the website didn't let me. So I contacted selective service and they told me I don't qualify so I need to fill out that form I spoke up. Yeah, I've had one heck of a time with these people. But when I tried signing up for it on the actual website I guess it can tell the fact that under my social security it still has me listed as "F". So it didn't let me go ahead and sign up for selective service.

[Devlyn]

I'm 22. I didn't sign up because at 18 I wasn't transitioning. And a few weeks ago I DID try to sign up for it just to get the issues fixed but the website didn't let me. So I contacted selective service and they told me I don't qualify so I need to fill out that form I spoke up. Yeah, I've had one heck of a time with these people. But when I tried signing up for it on the actual website I guess it can tell the fact that under my social security it still has me listed as "F". So it didn't let me go ahead and sign up for selective service.

What was the first website that wasn't the actual one, and did they tell you why you weren't qualified?

[androidnick]

What was the first website that wasn't the actual one, and did they tell you why you weren't qualified?

It was the selective service website. I wouldn't have put my information into another website. It was the government website. And no it was an automated thing that basically said I couldn't sign up and to either contact them or send the paperwork in to sign up for it. So I rather not waste time and just send them the information saying why I'm ineligible. And I'm not qualified because I'm an FTM. That's basically what has been said to me by two selective service employees

[Devlyn]

OK, you have a few years to fix this. After that, it will follow you for your whole life. You need to take care of this.

Hugs, Devlyn

[androidnick]

I mean since it says that I don't have to sign up for selective services in the link that Devlyn provided, does this mean I could just say "no" if this issue were to come up? And explain the reasoning why if that is the issue. I don't know how other trans guys haven't had issues with Selective Services

[Asher123]

It's not really true that you don't need to register. As long as your legal gender is male, you need to either be registered for draft or have some kind of proof that you're disqualified from it (for being trans). They signed me up as soon as I legally changed my gender marker...it must be my state. Every website I've checked says you can register at the post office. Have you tried that?

It'll be so much easier if you just go ahead and register instead of proving you're disqualified.

[androidnick]

It's not really true that you don't need to register. As long as your legal gender is male, you need to either be registered for draft or have some kind of proof that you're disqualified from it (for being trans). They signed me up as soon as I legally changed my gender marker...it must be my state. Every website I've checked says you can register at the post office. Have you tried that?

It'll be so much easier if you just go ahead and register instead of proving you're disqualified.

my question is, did you not have any issues with it if your social security still has "f" on it? Like they didn't sign me up I think when I went to the DMV and changed my gender marker

[Devlyn]

It's not really true that you don't need to register. As long as your legal gender is male, you need to either be registered for draft or have some kind of proof that you're disqualified from it (for being trans). They signed me up as soon as I legally changed my gender marker...it must be my state. Every website I've checked says you can register at the post office. Have you tried that?

It'll be so much easier if you just go ahead and register instead of proving you're disqualified.

This seems to be the issue. Nick has an F on his Social Security account, and I assume is putting male on applications. Here is the information on changing SS documents:

https://www.susans.org/wiki/Changing_Social_Security_records

[Konnor]

I would just do your best to get your gender changed with social security. Once I did that, my selective service card and new SS card both came in the mail and I was set. It's an easy process- check out the link Devlyn provided. I would definitely just do it, especially since it has been coming up in your job search. Good luck man!

[Sebryn]

Yes get it taken care of because a county job is a governmental job. You can register online any time before you turn 26 after your SS card is changed. It's very simple to change the SS gender marker these days. Good luck. =)

[Susan]

it's kind of messed up they are basically saying FTM are still women and so don't have to register while mtf are still men so do.

SEX GENDER CHANGE / TRANSEXUAL

Individuals who are born female and have a sex change are not required to register. U.S. citizens or immigrants who are born male and have a sex change are still required to register.