Are trans and cis vaginas similar or different?

[AnonyMs]

If anyone is interested you can see for yourself if you search for "A collection of links to photos of SRS results".

[Jacqueline]

which surgeon and where u had it done ? when u had it? is it working fine ?

Welcome to the site.

You appear to have slipped through  the cracks and were not properly welcomed.

We have some links that we like to share with newly posting members. It is mostly welcoming info and the rules of the site.

Things that you should read

Site Terms of Service & Rules to Live By	Standard Terms & Definitions	Post Ranks (including when you can upload an avatar)	Cautionary Note
Reputation rules	News posting & quoting guidelines	Photo, avatars, & signature images policy	Membership Agreement

Once again, welcome to Susan's. Look around, ask questions and join in.

With warmth,

Jacqui

[SadieBlake]

I posted my earlier thoughts in this thread when I was still pre-op, now being 9 months post op I'll add some personal experiences.

I'm about as self lubricating as most natal women I've been with ... Maybe this says nothing great about my abilities as a lover but I'll gladly take it.

I've been declared by the only guy I've had sex with to have considerably stronger pc muscles than any of his other (many) partners -- I had to intentionally relax for him to be able to enter, otherwise the said <ahem> nice things. I kinda feel this is a pity, given I'm going to be using it 99% of the time with other women ;-).

My GF declared things to be surprisingly normal the first time she saw my vagina up close, about a week post op. Of course I felt very abnormal soon after due to a couple of months of significant swelling. Today I'd say it's not quite a "designer" vagina but I find it pretty enough!

Best of all, my new lover, a confirmed lesbian loves my look and feel. Certainly my responses now feel like women I've been with and it's not like I practiced or intended that, I think things just come naturally now. I don't care at all that I'm "constructed" down there, it all works and the only thing I'm thinking about for revision is that the cleft above my clitoris trends left and feels like scar tissue.

[Maria77]

I think this is a pretty complex question.  Most men are not going to notice much about how a vulva looks.  There is a certain type of guy who is REALLY into vaginas and those types will know.  If they  have suspicions, there are structural differences from localtion of the Vagina (the two hole issue that's been discussed in the past), the hood over the clit and less defined inner labia, scara, lack of lubrication, the tightness issue, et.   Fortunately, these types (Drs of Vaginal Studies) are likely a small % of men.

On the other hand most men over the average 5/6 inches should know if they are bottoming out.  My first bf was over 8 jnches, but he was a nice guy-he wouldn't have said anything to hurt me (still pre-op anyway, unfortunately!).  To some degree I think that speaks to being intimate with a caring partner.  Really that should be our goal I guess-is to find the guy who might have his suspicions, but:1 doesn't care about your past,  and 2. Would not say anything to hurt you.  I actually think in this area a larger percentage of males understand that we are in the general population and they might meet one of us someday.  Maybe in a few more years it won't matter one way or the other. 

[Rachel]

Scarring, I do not have noticeable scars on the outside. I have a scar ring at the entrance and a large scar about 2 inches by and inch inside. It is painful. I have hyper pigmentation of the two incision locations where she remove the gonad tubes. I do not go in the sun nude. The hyperpigmentation is fading (1.25 years post op).

I had a clitoral hood done 3 months post op.

April 4th 2018 I am having a small repair done on the hood, the scar ring removed and the scar inside my vagina removed. I am also having vagioplasty on the left labia majora. About 3 inches of skin on the bottom half of my vagina is being repositioned. My urethra is going to be moved too.

I have no labia minora as I had no penile skin (0.75 inches long with a small diameter, which had no vascular support).

One difference between cis and trans vaginas is trans vagina entry needs to go under the pelvic bone. That is the reason the trans vaginal dilators are curved and cis are not.

[AnonyMs]

One difference between cis and trans vaginas is trans vagina entry needs to go under the pelvic bone. That is the reason the trans vaginal dilators are curved and cis are not.

I've no idea about the first part, but as far as I know most dilators are not curved, only soul source are.

[Rachel]

Soul source makes a straight dilator for cis and a curved for trans. I can use a straight but not he curved is specifically for trans. When shown how to dilate by Chrystal at Papillion she explained that he difference and the correct entry angle to use for a he curved dilators.

[AnonyMs]

That's interesting. I don't think the curved one are suitable for Suporn's dynamic dynamic dilation, but not many surgeons use it.

[echo7]

Chettawut and Suporn provide custom dilators made specifically for their practice to their SRS patients. I went to Chet, and the dilators have Chet's website engraved into the clear plastic shaft. They are straight dilators with no curve at all. On the other hand, it's my understanding that most surgeons in the US have their patients use the curved dilators from Soul Source.

[Sydney_NYC]

Chettawut and Suporn provide custom dilators made specifically for their practice to their SRS patients. I went to Chet, and the dilators have Chet's website engraved into the clear plastic shaft. They are straight dilators with no curve at all. On the other hand, it's my understanding that most surgeons in the US have their patients use the curved dilators from Soul Source.

The dilators I received from Dr. Rachel Bluebond-Langner at NYU are definitely from Soul Source and are the curved ones. When taught how to dilate I was told that after insertion the tip is supposed to feel like it's curving up aiming towards the belly button.

[AnonyMs]

I've seen pictures of PAI dilators, they are very similar to Suporn and Chettawut's. Long ago Thai surgeons used candles until one of the surgeons got custom ones made, then the rest mostly followed, so they are all very similar.

[Lucy Ross]

I've seen pictures of PAI dilators, they are very similar to Suporn and Chettawut's. Long ago Thai surgeons used candles

How on earth would a candle get the job done?  Or is candle a brand name?  Please say yes.   

[AnonyMs]

Carrie Liz made a post about candles when she had SRS in 2016. It looks like Dr Chettawut was in the process of changing over then.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,212861.msg1891193.html#msg1891193

There's an interview with Dr Suporn's wife (search for Suporn2015.pdf) where she  talks about how plastic dilators were introduced in Thailand - seems like candles melt in the heat.

[TinaVane]

Are trans vaginas similar or different? The answer is.. yes.

Truth is, it varies. I loved my vagina. I was deep, self lubricating, and my scars were invisible. Most of these are still true, but I have lost a lot of depth during a depressive period, although I was 4+ years post op. I can also orgasm vaginally and clitorally. No man has ever noticed, they only ever get obsessed with the tightness and the wetness.

As in they never noticed you are trans or that you just had an orgasm with them ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[IsabellaSwan]

I have slept with about 50 men, and not one man ever knew.

[IsabellaSwan]

Keep in mind, though, that if i lay down on my back in broad daylight and spread my legs wide, they would know something was different. Knkw you vagina and work with it. Soft lighting and not spreading my legs super wide was my friend. Had i gotten a cosmetic touch up, I could probably do that too, though. Dr Suporn leaves the entrance "open" becasue we would tear everything during dynamic dilation, so you have to go back to get the perineum pinched and a fourchette created. I never did because you can't dilate for a month afterwards, and my dilation never reached a point where I thought that would be feasible.