A list of TS traits from my therapist

[Rachael]

Aside from this I was wondering if the word "chavs" is used in the U.S. I'm just interested to know.

Sarah

as far as i know, the new world is free of this infestation....
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[lady amarant]

as far as i know, the new world is free of this infestation....
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Just the word, or the entire phenomenon? 

[foreversarah]

Hi

Chavs are the people who smoke or did smoke under age, take drugs, are up until 4 am, dont care about anything, go around in gangs, wear hoods, annoy people and hate Gordon Brown or David Cameron (Condervitave leader).

It's become a word in the Oxford dictionary.

I was just interested. They're a minority of the British population and very annoying. I've been to the USA twice and havent seen anybody of the sort so I guess you're right.

Sarah

[tekla]

im sorry, i forgot that transsexuality was a joke....

Taking yourself too seriously prevents - rather than encourages - others from taking you seriously at all.  Its like the 'cool' deal, if you have to tell others, its not working out too well for you.  Not that its always a joke, its not always an R&J style tragedy either (though I must confess every time I do R&J I see it more and more as a comedy).  Getting so worked up over a list, this list or any list, is kind of silly.

[Rachael]

Smoke. stay up till 4, wear hoodies.... love, your describing half the student population of the country

CHAV: anacronim.... Council house assisted vermin....

they are your trailer trash, crossed with ghetto yobs.... or whatever... think the projects...
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[foreversarah]

Hi

Or "and violent"    I hate them all though. To me there's a clear difference between chavs and normal people. The area where my college is is infested with them. I just wanna go at them with my chainsaw.    .

Sarah

[RebeccaFog]

you Brits need a new country.   May I suggest Texas?   Feel free to start the bombing.

[foreversarah]

Hi

Texas is a bit too hot for me.  I prefer the cold weather we have, we just had snow a few days a go and the average temp is still below 20C. I also love the Norfolk accent such as "on the h" which means on the wonk and I like cups of tea. Chavs are very masculine as well so I keep as far away as possible.

Sarah

[cindybc]

Well I don't smoke anymore and I haven't touched any alcohol for over twenty years, but I love drinking coffee and staying up till 4:00 or 5:00 am catching up on some reading in different forums, I like Rock music and can still dance me up a storm.

As far as climate in Vancouver BC. I am happy with it, the coldest temp on average in the winter is +5C and up to +30C on average during the summer.  I am a social person and like to socialise and I have meetups with other ladies of similar likes and interests, so ya, I like BC ok.

Cindy

[seldom]

We have a primarily cope with the condition by shutting down all emotions-----Exact opposite here.  I am extremely emotional.
We have an inability to discuss deep feelings with others----kind of yes and kind of no
We are very insecure-----absolutely
We have very few, if any, close friends, prefers to spend time alone----I do have close friends even before transition, but I still like to spend time alone.  Growing up though, no close friends, and wanted to always be alone
We exhibit extreme shyness at times----absolutel
We have a hatred of (and inattention to) our appearance--Before transition, absolutely
We avoid pictures and videos of ourselves---yup, did it all the time
We often have inattention to health issues----I have always been pretty health
We have extreme modesty about our sexuality and partial and full nudity---wow this is dead on how I was
We often take on dangerous jobs or activities---nope
We often have well above average intelligence---Yes
We immerse ourselves in activities or jobs that require intense concentration and highly technical vocations.---I am a research analyst, so yes.
We are extremely competitive or extremely non-competitive with no middle ground---mostly noncompetitive here, I wonder how I got through law school
We are very imaginative daydreamers---Absolutely.
We display self destructive behavior---I very well have at times. 
We possess a tolerance for others, very unlikely to be racist, homophobic etc.---I will say I am not racist or homophobic, but I have absolutely no tolerance for conservatives, generalize the south as bigoted and backwards, and yeah.  I don't like the south, conservatives and republicans.  My tolerance only extends to those who are tolerant of those who are different. 
We are anti-war and anti death penalty---yes and yes
We have the need for more than usual privacy in our  lives---absolutely
We are very unlikely to fight or have a physical confrontation----Not very likely.
We have deep seated hatred of authority---depends who the authority is, if its surgeons with a gatekeeper attitude absolutely.  Oh wait I don't like corporations or republicans either, so I would say maybe. 
We have on and off battles with clinical depression---anxiety and kind of depression
We are easily able to place people by the sounds of their voice--yes
We are able to easily read peoples emotions---depends when
We excel in reading and writing at an early age but have difficulty with mathematics----I was very good at history.  I was born with a learning disability with regards to reading.  Eventually I overcame it and excelled.
We often have suicidal thoughts, plans or attempts----Never did.

[buttercup]

i made a statistic! 79% of all transsexuals wear clothes!
83% of all statistics are true dontcha know....
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"67% of all statistics are made up, including this one."
--Dogbert

Statistics give me the pips!!        

[polymorph]

89% of statistics use falsified values... and the remaining 21% have mathematical errors.

[Berliegh]

Well I don't smoke anymore and I haven't touched any alcohol for over twenty years, but I love drinking coffee and staying up till 4:00 or 5:00 am catching up on some reading in different forums, I like Rock music and can still dance me up a storm.

As far as climate in Vancouver BC. I am happy with it, the coldest temp on average in the winter is +5C and up to +30C on average during the summer.  I am a social person and like to socialise and I have meetups with other ladies of similar likes and interests, so ya, I like BC ok.

Cindy

I'm a lot younger than you are Cindy and I start getting tired at around 12.00am. How do you do it? I don't drink and I have never smoked.....

[foreversarah]

Hi,

The chavs tend to loiter the streets at 4.00am, some people I know are proud of it, I'd rather stay at home . I'm too lazy But I did stay up until 4.30am the other night messing around with friends and watching a movie.

Sarah

[Pica Pica]

I loiter till 4 - ish, the night is beautiful. Even in London.

My pub is listed in a review as having a clientèle ranging from, 'the slightly chavvy to the simply psychotic' that's the way i like it. At least chavs are not horrible haw-hawwing students.

[cindybc]

I really not sure Berliegh, I never did like to go to bed early as a kid. I would sometimes read comic books or sci-fi novels under the blanket with a flashlight. I worked at jobs where I worked mostly night shift so that I could have the day in the sun at the beach or doing work in the yard. I just loved being in the sun back then and I was dark as a Mex. I don't know really except that what became a habit became trait. I love sipping on a coffee while standing outside watching the sun come up in the morning. See the ground mist at the base of the mountains in the distance, the little birds, I love to listen to the little birds, then I just crash and sleep for a few hours.

Cindy   

[Lori]

That list is about 60% accurate for me. I don't think there is one list that is going to describe all TS.

Maybe we could start a list ourselves and come closer but its not gong to define everybody.

What makes me TS is I was born one sex and have always desired to be the other and with each and every passing year that desire has turned into a need. That need has become painful and life consuming and something had to give. My life has never been right and once I figured out I was actually a girl and should look like one its been a constant struggle with weight, hrt, and my ability to become one.

That list appears to be written for certain political parties as well. Personally I believe in the death penalty. I'm also very emotional. I don't have a deep seated hatred for authority. I've always figured away around it. If I need hormones, I got them. Gatekeepers be damned.

I'm not too sure about the tolerance thing. I hate child beaters, Bigots, people who throw god and the bible in my face telling me how wrong and sick I am.....list goes on. In fact I'm pretty intolerant of most people.


In fact, I'm pretty much a bitch. 

[bethzerosix]

this list is pretty accurate for me... 

[Victoria L.]

We have a primarily cope with the condition by shutting down all emotions - I do that.
We have an inability to discuss deep feelings with others  - Yes.
We are very insecure - I am pretty insecure.
We have very few, if any, close friends, prefers to spend time alone - I have no friends. I can't trust them, and they don't know who I am.
We exhibit extreme shyness at times - Yes, I can be very shy.
We have a hatred of (and inattention to) our appearance - Yes.
We avoid pictures and videos of ourselves - YES.
We often have inattention to health issues - I suppose.
We have extreme modesty about our sexuality and partial and full nudity - Very much so. I won't go partial nude at all. I always have a shirt and pants on.
We often take on dangerous jobs or activities - Don't know about that.
We often have well above average intelligence - Again, I don't know about that.
We immerse ourselves in activities or jobs that require intense concentration and highly technical vocations. - Intense concentration? Does music count?
We are extremely competitive or extremely non-competitive with no middle ground - You could say I'm non-competitive.
We are very imaginative daydreamers - Very much so.
We display self destructive behavior - Sometimes.
We possess a tolerance for others, very unlikely to be racist, homophobic etc. - Yup.
We are anti-war and anti death penalty - Definitely.
We have the need for more than usual privacy in our lives - Very much so.
We are very unlikely to fight or have a physical confrontation - I don't fight. So yes.
We gave deep seated hatred of authority - Eh. I guess I've kind of grow out of that, but I still don't like some authority. =P
We have on and off battles with clinical depression - I do have depression I'm pretty sure.
We are easily able to place people by the sounds of their voice - Yeah.
We are able to easily read peoples emotions - Sometimes.
We excel in reading and writing at an early age but have difficulty with mathematics - That's definitely me.
We often have suicidal thoughts, plans or attempts - I've had thoughts and plans, yes.

Wow.

[Rachael]

oh dear....
should i go get the egg whisk and the flying helmet now? or later?
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