anything that you will miss as a guy?

stephanie_craxford · July 18, 2006, 11:40:01 PM

Quote from: tinkerbell on July 18, 2006, 08:50:42 PM

Hello Everyone:

I guess you already know my answer to this question since I posted it a while back. But I had to ask this question to someone close to me (who's lived a completely different life from mine....yeah..I know...I'm nosy...a few people here can tell you that... ) so I called a very good friend of mine and bombarded her with the question...by the way...she doesn't live in the States, and I'll give you a synopsis of her life so that you can understand better why she thinks the way she does....

She seems like a very special person to you, have you ever met?

Steph

TheRoachyJay · July 18, 2006, 11:47:15 PM

Would/Will possibly miss having crushes on girls (depends on estrogen), causing havoc at BS...

Melissa · July 19, 2006, 12:58:30 AM

Quote from: TheRoachyJay on July 18, 2006, 11:47:15 PM
Would/Will possibly miss having crushes on girls (depends on estrogen)

Why couldn't you have crushes on girls? I do.

Melissa

TheRoachyJay · July 19, 2006, 01:22:01 AM

Quote from: Melissa on July 19, 2006, 12:58:30 AM
Why couldn't you have crushes on girls? I do.

Melissa

I read somewhere that 1/3 post operation mtfs remained attracted to females with the effects of estrogen.

Melissa · July 19, 2006, 10:27:43 AM

Well, from polls I've seen done on the internet, it's closer to 50%.

Melissa

stephanie_craxford · July 19, 2006, 10:31:11 AM

Quote from: tinkerbell on July 19, 2006, 12:41:43 AM
Hi Steph:

Yes we have met. Actually she lived in Peru for a few months in the mid 90's and I was there on a holiday...so we had the chance to know each other then. Over the years though, our lives just took different directions but we've kept in touch via telephone, mail and e-mail. She's never been to the States before so lately I've been trying to convice her to take a few weeks off and come over. Unfortunately Argentina has very strict laws on how to change gender markers on national documents if you're still pre-op, so that's been the main reason why she hasn't come over yet. I keep hoping though...

tinkerbell

Thats really too bad, it's especially sad when you re being held prisoner in your own country.

Steph

TheRoachyJay · July 20, 2006, 06:00:37 AM

Quote from: Melissa on July 19, 2006, 10:27:43 AM
Well, from polls I've seen done on the internet, it's closer to 50%.

Melissa

Could be. Pool the data from different places and we end up with different results. Perhaps it's more sparatic than we'd like to think.

Melissa · July 20, 2006, 10:43:08 AM

I don't think anyone knows for sure. I would guess your number included bisexuals. Personally, I know that I'll always maintain an attraction to women. It's too strong not to.

Melissa

tinkerbell · July 30, 2006, 01:28:59 AM

Nope! nothing whatsoever! but again, how could I miss something I have never experienced before?

tinkerbell

Buffy · July 30, 2006, 03:12:16 AM

I miss being treated like an intelligent human being when I buy something technical or take my car in for a service....

To be shown how the on / off switch turns on a TV, I found kind of insulting....

Buffy

Melissa · July 30, 2006, 03:50:31 AM

So far the only thing I've missed is feeling like I had a chance with straight women, but then I realize I would never be able to fill the male role and that feeling goes away.

Melissa

tinkerbell · July 30, 2006, 03:52:49 AM

Quote from: Buffy on July 30, 2006, 03:12:16 AM
I miss being treated like an intelligent human being when I buy something technical or take my car in for a service....

To be shown how the on / off switch turns on a TV, I found kind of insulting....

Buffy

It always amazes when guys talk about intelligent things such as the right screw to buy in a hardware store, which team won the football game last sunday, or the number of hairs they have under their arms..

...it is another thing which I don't miss at all...their intelligence. >

tinkerbell

LynnER · July 30, 2006, 04:01:40 AM

No offence to the FtM's but generaly speaking dont you mean "or lack there of"

Tink?

<This post is bassed on my own personal experiance with myself........I dont miss being clueless, or inconsidorate due to being oblivious to all that happens around me at all>

tinkerbell · July 30, 2006, 04:09:48 AM

Quote from: LynnER on July 30, 2006, 04:01:40 AM
No offence to the MtF's but generaly speaking dont you mean "or lack there of" Tink?

Yep! that's exactly what I implied by the smileys and by my using of this type of letters

tinkerbell

P.S. Lynn, did you really think I was serious when I mentioned their intelligence?

Julie Marie · July 30, 2006, 09:10:31 AM

Quote from: Melissa on May 13, 2006, 11:02:24 PM
I thought I would miss singing as a guy.

Melissa

At first I thought "No, there's really nothing I can think of" then I read your reply Melissa. I got hooked on karaoke when a lez friend I was crazy about asked me to sing for her. I did Mack the Knife. When I got back to our table I was shaking like a leaf. She jumped up and gave me a big hug and a kiss and said "Wow you can really sing!" So whenever she asked me to sing for her I was right there. I was like a puppy waiting for that hug and kiss when I was done.

I have a pretty deep voice and I can boom it pretty well. My daughter called it the big noise and was scared to death of it. It meant I didn't have to spank her, all I had to do was ask if she wanted to hear the big noise and she immediately obeyed. So in a way I'll miss the voice but only in the sense that it allowed me to do things and put me in control. That is if I can actually change it enough to sound feminine.

Melissa · July 31, 2006, 02:20:43 PM

Julie, you just need to learn other effective ways to help control children. I could do the booming voice (which I learned from my Dad), but I didn't like doing it. I can still yell at them in the female voice, but I don't expect it to scare them (which it doesn't), although I can make it sound sharp to get them moving. However, a woman is smart and resourceful and will find other methods, rather than the brute force method employed by many men.

Melissa

Julie Marie · July 31, 2006, 06:05:33 PM

Quote from: Melissa on July 31, 2006, 02:20:43 PM
Julie, you just need to learn other effective ways to help control children.

My youngest will be 21 in October so I'm past trying to attempt to control them. But there is still something that keeps them coming back - MONEY! LOL!

Melissa · August 31, 2006, 12:53:38 PM

Well, I've been fulltime for almost 2 months now and thre is not 1 thing I miss about being a guy. For the things I thought I would miss, here's how I compensated:

Singing - I can sing as female, or use my male singing voice in private.
Peeing standing up - Women's bathrooms are cleaner. No problem.
Eating messy foods - Wear less makeup, so it's easier to clean off.
Dating - It actually got easier with transition for me.
Being observed - I love getting attention now. I don't mind standing out and I'm comfortable being myself.

Melissa

ssindysmith · August 31, 2006, 03:24:54 PM

Everybody has some very good points about what will be mssed, I sometimes think past the question. What will be gained and are those gain greater then what I might miss? pro's and con's if you will.

I am reminded of the life cycle of a butterfly.............

The numero uno thing that comes to mine is I will no longer be able to NOT express myself fully.

cindianna_jones · September 01, 2006, 05:44:54 AM

That which is gained

You have won the game
conquered and tamed
the enemy within.

What's left now?
You know how to vanquish
the internal monster.
The fight has taught you
the skills you've accrued.
There are now mountians to conquer

Craggy mountains of ice and snow
Shear granite cliffs, you know you'll go
ascending the slopes, finding plateaus
of new adventure.

Copyright 2006 Cindi Jones

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