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Started by marriedtgdad, April 29, 2008, 05:28:52 PM

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pretty pauline

Quote from: Rachael on May 12, 2008, 03:15:34 AM
Quote from: Yvonne on May 11, 2008, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: Gracie FAISE on May 11, 2008, 04:30:05 PM
I think the bottom line here is

Just be yourself. Like make up and skirts? Fine. Like beat up jeans and band tees? Fine. Whatever.

It's more complicated than skirts and band tees.  I'm like you.  I wear jeans, loose tank tops and never wear make up when I'm comfortably sitting at home.  At work or when I go out it's quite a different story.  The problem with "being yourself" is that some transsexual peeps equate that phrase with refusing to make a gender role change.  They want to act and look as their former selves but want all the benefits of their target gender ??? sorry but that's a load of tripe!

Bingo... happens a lot....

And like Grasie said, some girls just are how they are.

Nobody would ever imagine me male... even as a tomboy. Its not some excuse to maintain old habbits. i hardly had any? Its how _I_ feel good about myself, comfortable with my self, and happy with life.
i LIKE jeans. Sure, if wearing some mens jeans is me holding on to some pretransition self, fine... whatever. tell you what. it would be hard work to play combat sports in a skirt n heels.... (though i have done in leather and heels <-- dont ask) At my age, Day to day fasion for boys and girls doesnt differ too  hugely, atleast in the grungy punk/rock scene... sure theres differences, but it sticks fairly close.

My clothes do not make me.

My interests do not make me.

Was i corrected the right way at birth, i guess id still be into this stuff. but then, that would be ok, id be a natal female, i can do as i wish.


Somewhere the ->-bleeped-<-stapo is preparing to raid my house at 4am and arrest me for not being a perfect ->-bleeped-<-.

Sorry.
My way or the highway.
Ive said it before, ill say it again,
since when was transition about femininity or masculinity? no offense meant here, but are we crossdressers or actually the target gender? who gives a crap what you like? like it!

To transition, id hope your sense of self was greater than skin deep....
R >:D
Well I have to agree with a lot of them points, just a pity the internet wasn't around when I was going thru transition, I would have love my Mom to read some of them points, you don't have to be a girly girl to be a real girl, thats just nonsense, makes more sense to dress sensible, fashion is nice, but sometimes the weather can be unkind.
I remember about 20years ago, not long after my surgery, my uncle died so my Mom Dad and my 3brothers went to the funeral, it was a very cold day, my Dad and 3brothers had their heavy overcoats, but even that day I had to dress according to what my Mom called appropriate for a girl, I wore a black dress just above the knee with a short sleeve pink jacket, my hands where busy just keeping my dress from tossing up in the wind, I felt my brothers giggle and I was mortified,typical boys, we had a long walk to the grave and my heels where killing me, just a bad day, but looking back now, that wasn't practical clothes that day, anyway it had a good ending and I had the last laugh.
Just as we where leaving the graveside, it started to rain, a car pulled up, some guy friend of my Dads, he says to my Dad, ''can I give the 2ladies a ride'' myself and Mom climbed into the car and my Dad and brothers where left to get a good sog in the rain lol it was just so nice to get into that warm car, that guy was a real gentleman, times like that its nice being a girl, but my Mom was definitely wrong about tomboys, sometimes I wished my Mom would have let me wear pants more often, theres more to being a girl than just being pink and frilly.
p
If your going thru hell, just keep going.
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Valentina

If a woman is swaggering around and acting very aggressively then I agree that I personally find this unattractive. But then I also find this kind of behaviour unattractive in men  so not sure that says much.  I don't have a problem with women with short hair that were pants and behave in a manner that's less stereotypical.

I don't dress or act 'like a man' but then I don't dress or act ultra 'femininely' either, unless I go to a wedding or something in which case I'll make an effort and dress up. I would be offended if someone told me I should dress like that as I've better things to do with my time and I find jeans and t-shirt more practical. I'm quite secure in the fact that I'm a woman, and I don't need to go to either extreme to prove it.


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deviousxen

Man... The more I think about it, I'm still a tomboy, but every single relationship I've been in, ever, has had me coming off as a girl SO MUCH.

I recently met someone like me the same age, and her girlfriend is completely accepting, and likes the relationship...

It gives me SOME hope I guess...
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cindybc

Congrats on your two newly found friends, Deviousxen. I pray that you all become good friends.

I already had four lady friends, one had left her three kids in my care shortly after I started full time.

My AA sponsor, she was a deacon in the Catholic Church. She was truly a wonderful, kind, and caring lady and helped me a lot.

Ironically, not expecting any help from a religious person, I went to see this Anglican minister who was also female.  She was  the first person I ever sat with to tell her about me and my big, dark, forbidden secret. This was the beginning of my long walk into transitioning.

There was a drop-in service for mental health consumers (consumers is such a cold word but that's governmentese for you) in my town and the woman who was the peer support worker there took well to me and we became friends at the drop-in and afterwards.

Eventually I followed the woman at the drop-in and her job fell to me.  The program manager there was another woman with whom I cultivated a friendship that is there to this day.  It was on her watch that I had my greatest growth as a social worker and as a woman.

Of course Wing Walker started out as my friend in a certain chat room and look at what happened there.

These five ladies were probably the best and most valuable assets that I could ever have bestowed upon. They stayed with me and they were there for me after I came out full time.

Cindy




 
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deviousxen

Well... I haven't met his girlfriend actually... So one person. But thats certainly good enough anyway. Too bad they live in VA...


Why can't we just teleport? What the crap?

Its not just the friend thing, its also cause this ones in the same boat as me, and it makes me feel less crazy with anything I'd do...
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cindybc

Hi Deviousxen hon

Sorry to hear about your friends not being from the same area as you are. Well it only takes one confidant who is a trusting soul to share with and I certainly do pray that this confidant will show herself to you soon, possibly the one you say is in the same situation as you are.

Cindy 
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justine40

I thought just like you when I started out. I didn't want to lose the person I was simply because I had my penis removed. I loved all types of sports, also hiking, camping, working on cars. I didn't dress up very much, and when I did it was usually something subtle, womens jeans and a gender neutral top. I loved wearing panties, but not so much bras. But everytime I stepped in the shower, I knew that thing between my legs didn't belong there. I hated looking at it, having that part of my body disgusted me. I would tuck it even when I was in the shower. The few times I made love to a woman, I felt very jealous of her. I wanted to be her, I wanted to feel what she was feeling. I wantedto have her parts, but I was scared I lose the other parts of my life that I enjoyed so much. I wanted to be the same person just with breasts and a vagina.

I felt subtle changes when I started hormones, mainly my emotions took off. I enjoyed the little things of life so much more with the hormones. I laughed more, smiled more, cried more. My interests remained the same. But my body began changing. My skin became softer. My breasts began to grow, not much, but enough to know they were there. My hair became fuller and my butt and hips filled out. I lost alot of my strength and stamina in sports. I became softer and weaker.

Through the two years on HRT and the 1 and a half year of RLT, I felt I stayed the same person at my core with softening around the edges which I fully welcomed.

The biggest change came about six months after my SRS. I happiest moment of my life to date, was when I looked down between my legs in that hospital bed three days after my surgery and saw that it was not there, even though my vagina looked like ground beef. But at around the six month mark, I finally accepted myself as a full woman. I started enjoying wearing sexy clothes, whether it be a cute bra and panty set, or a nice little cocktail dress. I started noticing being noticed by men, and I liked it. It reinforced my womanhood. Slowly, I took better care with my make-up and hair, and what I wear. Eventhough, I never was attracted to men before the surgery, I thought I was going to be one of those cool tomboy-type lesbians, I found myself noticing and wanting men more and more, not just to admire me, but to have me physically.

I still like playing sports and watching football and basketball on TV, I am much more of a regular girl than I ever thought I would be. I seem to go back and forth between the jean wearing tomboy and the mini-skirt wearing chick. That's is what so great about becoming a woman, we can be whatever we what whenever we want.

PS - The sex is incredible. Pussies rule.
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lauren3332

I always feared that I wasn't feminine enough to pass and that brought a lot of doubts if I was truly TS or not, but then I learned not to care anymore.  I will always have need to be known as Lauren, even though as a child I thought I was "the dude"  It took me a long time before I realized that a change like this is actually possible although it isn't really rational.  overrationalizing is one of my biggest problems. 
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pretty pauline

Quote from: justine40 on June 11, 2009, 01:43:01 AM
That's is what so great about becoming a woman, we can be whatever we what whenever we want.

PS - The sex is incredible. Pussies rule.
I absolutely agree, girls have the better deal in the bedroom, very well put, when I look in the mirror Im so glad, I love being a woman.
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If your going thru hell, just keep going.
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Blaire

i'm like that now, one year on hormones. i feel like a woman( i guess ) but i still to go fishing,hiking and the sorts, i just do it with a new sense of fashion. you can too!!!
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Coatl

Well if hormones (which im beginning sooon!) don't change me to much, Il be one of the fellow tomboys, no need to worry about it, its a great trait, how you act is simply who you are, gender doesn't define whats fun and comfortable to you. Im a gamer girl and proud of it haha

Alot of really good examples here everyone, made me smile hehe
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Sigma Prime

Quote from: Johnnie on April 29, 2008, 05:28:52 PM
I have no doubt that I am m2f, and I'm seriously thinking about/planning for transition.

I know that hormones change people in unpredictable ways, but here's the thing: I want to look like a girl, and i want to live a woman's life, but I'm not that interested in being GIRLY. I'm sure there will be times I'll want to get all dolled up, but most of the time I'll probably wear jeans, a t-shirt and sneakers. I'm very into sports, politics, video games, and films... I don't want any of that to change.. I just want to do it all as a woman.

To be a bit childish.. I want to still be ME after transition, just me with boobs and no weiner :)

Can anyone else relate? Or will hormones rewire me so much that I'll end up preferring shoe shopping to watching my Seahawks on NFL Sunday Ticket? :)
If you wanted to give your entire personality an overhaul, I would submit that there is something wrong with your mental health, and I would advise counseling instead of a sex-change. I will be honest with you: hormones change your brain a little bit. You have a right to feel concerned about this.

The therapy I suggest is this: watch the girls you hang out with, and try to note the things that make them all different and unique. You know some who like to drink beer. You know some who enjoy watching football. Some of them are into anime and manga. You know a few artists and maybe one accountant. If you really pay close attention, you will find that very few of them are obsessed with shopping for shoes.

Fashion tip: jeans make you look younger. You will discover this, and you will come to take pride in it.
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Sandra Ts

Hi Johnnie
There are more people thinking like you than you believe.
I'm one of thes and if you want we can talk.

Sandra Ts
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heatherrose

#113



Is there a problem with being a "M2F TomBoy"?
Only problem I see, is it's one more label I gotta plaster to my...
I don't have time for this, I gotta clean the mud off of my "Chukka Boots"!




"I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?" - Fred Rogers
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Genevieve Swann

Gender should have nothing to do with what types of sports a person likes or the car you drive. Many ladies I know are into NFL, NASCAR, fishing, hunting, camping and drive SUVs. If you were a professional bull rider and transgender that my be different. Even then, look at the bright side. You wouldn't have to worry about busting your testicles. LOL. I was a member of Future Farmers of America when younger. I didn't wear a skirt back then but I would have if it had been allowed. I know! We'll change the term. Not a "Tomboy", a "Tinaboy". There, problem solved.

heatherrose




Quote from: Genevieve Swann on July 09, 2009, 01:17:53 AMIf you were a professional bull rider and transgender that my be different.

Except that it would challenge societal norms, why would that pose a problem?

Quote from: Genevieve Swann on July 09, 2009, 01:17:53 AMWe'll change the term. Not a "Tomboy", a "Tinaboy".


If a female, who exibits mannerisms considered to be those of a male, would be
called a "Tom Boy". Wouldn't it stand to reason that a male, who exibits mannerisms
considered to be those of a female, would be called a "Tina Girl", instead?




"I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?" - Fred Rogers
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Alyssa M.

My climbing partner told me I look like a tomboy in climbing mode (not-very-boyish but nevertheless men's shirt, loose fitting pants, beat up trail shoes for the approach, ponytail, helmet, rope in a backpack coil, harness with a some gear hanging off).

He wasn't sure if that was a compliment or an insult.

He needn't have worried. :D

I wish I could present female when climbing -- but it's not something where you can think about how you look while you're doing it. I'll just look how I look. When I need a bra, I guess that'll be the day. I can be patient.

Oh, yes, to reiterate: You bet I'm a tomboy.
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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Hypatia

I'm really girly, I hate sports, always have. Guns, cars, tools leave me cold, always have. I was always an alien in guyland. You're making me think hard to come up with something so I won't be an alien in this thread too...

OK, how about this: I drink beer. In America beer is gendered masculine, isn't it? For me, it's just that a cold one goes down so well on a hot day. When it isn't summer, the idea doesn't occur to me, but when the temperature rises above 80 ºF (27 ºC), I get this craving. I actually prefer wine, year-round. But if white wines are the ones gendered feminine, and I only drink red, where on the gender continuum does that place me? Hell if I know; this is silly. In Germany, women drink beer a lot, without it being gendered masculine, it's just gendered German.

Bitch magazine had an article titled "Brewed Awakening" about how in America coffee is gendered masculine while tea is gendered feminine. But actually, I think that is damned silly, it's just artificially manufactured by advertising, and I like both coffee and tea about equally well.

Only two things bound to soothe my soul:
Cold beer and remote control
.
--Indigo Girls
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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Annwyn

I'm not a tomboy, I swarz it.  I'm as girly girl as it gets!




























8)

cuz babes are totally into guns and motorcycles and boxing and fighting and jets and skydiving and being complete adrenaline junkies even at great detriment to ones own health and so confrontational they usually get banned from a forum a min of 5 times!
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heatherrose





Quote from: tekla on May 11, 2008, 05:49:44 PMSo, at times, over the top isn't even far enough.  Cherish and relish those times.
Play it to the hilt, and as Carly Simon once said - walk into the party like you're walking onto a yacht.
And that's cool too.  Really, don't show up to the opera in casual friday rags, don't wear a little black dress (or tux) to paint the barn.
Now, from time to time, its possible, and perhaps necessary to violate that.  I see people dressed to the nines
in Safeway from time to time, but they are not doing the weekly shopping, they are buying wine and liquor
for the limo parked outside, so -- you do what you must.


Quote from: Hypatia link=topic=34144.msg405220#msg405220date=1247218327...I think that is damned silly,
it's just artificially manufactured by advertising,


I agree WHOLE HEARTEDLY,

It is inconceivable to me, how anyone who has struggled, their whole life,
against the norms imposed upon us by society and has emerged on this side,
whole and with some resemblance to sanity, can even conceive the thought
that someone isn't ?? enough. I would relish the spectacle of some that populate
this site, as they approached one of the "born women" here in N.Dakota, Montana,
S.Dakota or Wyoming and attempt to tell them that they weren't ?? enough because
they don't wear enough makeup or dresses. In fact, let me issue a standing invitation
to anyone that feels they can straighten these girls out, to come up here and do so.

I got you back "sister", I'll be standing by with 911 on speed dial.




"I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?" - Fred Rogers
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