gender traits whats male/female/androgyne about you?

[Kinkly]

I've always known I've been more female than male and any online tests I've tried have called me a girl  in most traits I'm very female or fairly netural being as there is a certain amount of male and that just confuses me

what traits are strong in you that you consider an androgyne trait
my traits that i don't consider male or female are do you consider any of these as andro traits? ?

accepting
open
understanding

envy/jelliousy
easily confused
being unable to fit in with others 
longing for friendships

[Emerald]

All the positive traits of both men and women are androgynous traits, beneficial to any human being. They are commonly known as virtues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtues#Virtues_and_values

Some negative traits are gender specific, considered to be more 'forgivable' in one sex but not the other. The rest are simply bad for any human being to possess.

Who or what do you envy, Kikly?

-Emerald 

[Nero]

I tried asking this before but it seemed peeps didn't like the idea of cataloguing traits into masculine vs feminine.
I tend to think in a binary way.

[Lokaeign]

This is a genuinely interesting topic.

peeps didn't like the idea of cataloguing traits into masculine vs feminine.

I think maybe one of the stronger traits that an androgyne might possess would be the inability to categorise traits as masculine or feminine.  I mean, my response is "why?"  Why would you do that?  I've been like that since infancy.  (What, you can't have lady firefighters?  Getouttatown.  Damn, these grownup people are weird!)

Personally, I find that if I really rack my brains I can identify some traits and abilities that I box as "male" or "female"... but they don't correspond to the filing system the rest of society uses.  My scientific/engineering bent goes under Female (the Boffin with her hair in a bun, the Engineer with her dungarees and doo-rag, both identifiably womanly).  My magic goes under Androgyne--when it's supposed to be female--and *my* brand of magic certainly gets filed under "Men's magic" when to me it's androgynous.  My art belongs to my andro side, but that's supposed to be female too.  And I am completely open to the fact that other people might file different aspects of their lives in different gender sets.

One of the Gordian knots of my being is the fact that identifying as "female" is so achingly painful, but why?  When I don't identify any of the specifics of my selfhood as gendered, why does it matter which way my shirts button?  Why, when I finally stood up and said "I am a 3rd-gendered person, I am an androgyne," did such a weight lift from my shoulders?


Posted on: May 08, 2008, 05:29:04 PM...and why do I sound like such an egregious ponce when I talk about this stuff? 

[Shana A]

I think maybe one of the stronger traits that an androgyne might possess would be the inability to categorise traits as masculine or feminine.  I mean, my response is "why?"  Why would you do that?  I've been like that since infancy.  (What, you can't have lady firefighters?  Getouttatown.  Damn, these grownup people are weird!)

I also have a hard time categorizing traits as being gendered... they're just personality traits to me, any person could act this or that way. It's always annoyed me how the same trait is judged differently in men and women. If a man is assertive and speaks up for himself he's considered strong, it shows leadership, if a woman is assertive, well we know the negative responses that gets. Ridiculous!

Zythyra

[Pica Pica]

I have trouble genderising parts of myself.. I try but it seems to be a random choice and changes all the time.
However I think there are androgyne traits (as I said elsewhere) which I think include a tendency to listen to multiple view points, a tendency to look at issues side on, a tendency to digress, and a tendency to go with intuition over logic - but that may all be me.

[Simone Louise]

FWIW, while googling gender traits, I found some Christian Bible study <http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/2311/Feminine-Characteristics-God.htm> which had the following paragraphs I submit for discussion:

"God has characteristics (revealed throughout Scripture) that are considered to be masculine and feminine. Our own bodies mirror this. Human reproductive glands, for example, manufacture both male and female hormones. Women's ovaries produce small, but significant amounts of androgen (a male hormone). Likewise, men's testicular canals produce not only testosterone, but also a small but significant amount of estrogen (female hormones). God has also designed the human anatomy so that both sexes have vestigial equipment of the opposite sex. No one is 100% male or 100% female—not even the most muscular man or the curviest woman can claim this distinction."

....

"Part of this process—incredible as it sounds—involves the male incorporating Godlike feminine (not effeminate) characteristics such as tenderness, mercy, and patience. Similarly, the female needs to learn or adopt masculine (not tomboy or butch) characteristics such as strength, assertiveness, and decisiveness. If we make a thorough search of the Scripture, we would find the masculine and feminine traits of God equally distributed.... We see ample and abundant masculine traits in the Bible: strength, power, decisiveness, aggressiveness, provider, ruler, and leader. Feminine traits are also abundant: beauty, grace, mercy, tenderness, caring, and affectionate. In order to qualify as members of God's Family, both men and women need to incorporate all these characteristics into their personalities."

Me? Beautiful and graceful? I'm ready,
S

Posted on: May 09, 2008, 04:05:18 PMCome to think of it, I need to work on those masculine traits, too, eg: aggressiveness, provider,
and leader.

S

[Shana A]

"Part of this process—incredible as it sounds—involves the male incorporating Godlike feminine (not effeminate) characteristics such as tenderness, mercy, and patience. Similarly, the female needs to learn or adopt masculine (not tomboy or butch) characteristics such as strength, assertiveness, and decisiveness. If we make a thorough search of the Scripture, we would find the masculine and feminine traits of God equally distributed....

Male and female, S/He created them in hir own image. I've always believed the old testament G-d to be multigendered.

Me? Beautiful and graceful? I'm ready,

You're already there 

Z

[Kinkly]

Who or what do you envy, Kikly?

-Emerald 

I feel envy when ever I see people together who obviously love each other very much - I totally want that   especialy in couples who have overcome a lot and are younger than me


God is both Male & Female
and I know I'm made in the image of s/he/it god.

I'm wondering if I'm female enough to be comfortable in a world accepted female body or if i change to a "what the" state (very fem looking + beard) which i think is what my true image should be,  Will i ever be acceped by the "real world"? & will i ever find someone who will love me

I'm hoping to work out how much fem/andro/male I am to see if i will ever fit in

[Lukas-H]

I have trouble genderising parts of myself.. I try but it seems to be a random choice and changes all the time.
However I think there are androgyne traits (as I said elsewhere) which I think include a tendency to listen to multiple view points, a tendency to look at issues side on, a tendency to digress, and a tendency to go with intuition over logic - but that may all be me.

100% agree But then..I always agree with you pica :O

Flattering aside, I too have trouble categorizing my traits as belonging to one gender or another. Sure, I -could- categorize them, but I don't want to because it makes no sense to me.

[Pica Pica]

if you agree with me then you are immediately wrong

[Nero]

if you agree with me then you are immediately wrong

that's for damn sure. 

[RebeccaFog]

My soul is female
my miserable body is male
my intelligence is Null Gendered
my emotions are feminine
My sexual preference has no preference
My clothing is male
my romantic preference is female (as a female and for other females)

[NickSister]

I don't think there are any traits that could be said to be only possesed by one gender. But there are traits which seem to have gender value applied to it by society. Kind of like Emerald said - some traits are more forgivable in one sex and not the other, the trait is valued as a trait of one gender more than another.

Now I see this value as a function of society - it might be based on biology but for the most part society decides on how it puts value on traits.

Now because androgynes are largely unknown I don't think we can list androgyne traits because society has not added that gender vlaue to any traits. I do believe there are some universal traits that are valued or unvalued by everyone but I don't think this makes them 'androgyne' traits. I don't think we have androgyne traits at all, we only have human traits.

Now I do think we have traits in common as androgynes but I don't think this makes them androgyne traits - more like these traits are the traits androgynes commonly have...

Hope this makes sense.


Posted on: May 11, 2008, 04:00:19 PMIn the style of Rebis:
My soul is feminin
My miserable body is mighty fine even if this male bod does not match my soul
My intelligence is geek
My emotions are human (but my emotional reactions are a mix, though often learnt male)
My sexual preference is for women
My romantic preference is to be treated as a woman

[Pica Pica]

In the style of Rebis also...

My miserable body is male, and it fits my soul oddly but properly, and I like it well enough.
My intelligence is male
My emotions are female and usually win over my intelligence
My sexual preference is for women, who would treat my male figure as their woman
My romantic preference is to be treated as a woman

My soul is ... is... I dunno. A bit of both, none, whatever.

[Lukas-H]

if you agree with me then you are immediately wrong

Would rather be wrong than right then

[Kinkly]

My soul is mostly Fem
Body is ugly male
My intelligence is nerdy/geeky male
my emotions are mostly female
my emotional response is mixed (laugh, cry, or hide feelings)
my Humor is warped
I'm attracted to females that are less fem then me
I'm not interested is sex without Love (is that a fem trait?)
I believe in an all Loving multi gendered God
I want to be a dad

[Nero]

My sexual preference is for women, who would treat my male figure as their woman

Good luck with that.  Best be saving up for a *meow* then. Just keeping it real, ginger.

[Lukas-H]

I'm just gonna jump on the bandwagon and do what everyone else is doing cause I've never thought about it before...

-My soul is...I really do not know..
-My body is female, of which I'm usually happy with (but there are those days..)
-My intelligence is...another thing I'm unsure with, except that my rational mind conflicts a lot with my 'heart' , but I try to make decisions based on rationality, because it's usually better and doesn't get me in trouble even if it rips me up emotionally.
-My emotions are just..human I guess? I guess I could just be simple about it and say they're mixed.
-My sexual preference is all over the map, aka I have found attraction in just about any sex or gender, but I prefer male or someone that looks male.
-My clothing preference is mixed, ranging between male-type clothes, female type clothes aka very pretty, swishy things, and neutral type clothes.
-Romantic preference..I don't know, I've only ever had the opportunity to love males. I have loved females but only as friends.

[Eva Marie]

My body is male
My reasoning is somewhere between male and female. I tend to see all sides of a situation.
My soul is probably split between male and female. Sometimes I yearn for what I see that GG's have just by being born a GG that I can never have as a male. But sometimes it is good to be a male.
My emotions are 50% male + 50% female.
I firmly believe that my physical presence and my personality transmits "female" to the alpha males I have to be around. I'm not for sure "what" it is, but it has happened enough to make be believe it.
My sexual preference is to make love to a female like a lesbian. My wife has not yet figured this out but she likes it. But yet I can see the eroticism in non traditional sexual roles as well. I have no interest in exploring these roles.
Clothing? i've played around with feminine clothes and it seems not for me at this time.
Romantic - i'm a female here. romantic stuff is fun and i've pulled off some hugely romantic/erotic nights with my wife.