Any gay guys here?

[Mister]

google pegging.  find me a site that claims it's vaginal penetration.

i didn't say you have woman sex.  i didn't say i have woman sex.  i didn't say anyone has woman sex.  i said my body is constructed to partly obtain sexual pleasure from vaginal penetration.  my body was also constructed to conceive, birth and nourish children.  i chose not to. i choose to not limit myself as to the sexual pleasure i receive.  but it seems as if you're saying that since i choose to occasionally participate in vaginal penetration, that i'm a woman ("It is how a woman has sex.")  That, sir, is just disrespectful.

honestly, i don't care if/how/when you're having sex, other than that the particpants (be they one, two, or fifteen) are all adults of sound mind to consent.

it would be fantastic, elwood, if you would read posts as they are written instead of dissecting them until they fit your purpose.

[Elwood]

It will always say anal because that's the typical definition. Don't fracking play semantics with me. It's petty, low level games.

You're acting like all transguys who don't have vaginal sex are limiting themselves and disobeying what nature says they're body should do. Well, frack you. Honestly. Not every guy here is going to want to have sex the way a woman does. End of story.

[Mister]

You're playing semantics by using an extremely uncommon definition and calling it law.

If I thought transguys should obey the call of nature, I wouldn't look like a dude, dude! Nature says that transmen look like women.  They have children.  They have breasts.  I didn't say anyone's missing out on anything, I said that my personal decision is to get off, regardless of how I did it.  If my lady's big toe up my nose made me moan, I'd ask her to do so.  It's regardless if a body part is assigned to a certain sex- if it feels good, I'm in.  Hell, I'm lactose intolerant but I enjoy ice cream every once and a while, too...

It's extremely disconcerting that you pull misogyny into this with the 'low level games little girls play' thing.

[icontact]

-insert choice words-

Can't you two ever just take it to PM? This is the second thread you've ruined with your off-topic bickering.

[Elwood]

Except I didn't.

I don't care what you think. I never liked you, something about you is just wrong to me, so I just can't trust anything you've got to say to me. I don't care if the whole world thinks your the biggest, greatest man alive. You BOTHER me.

Posted on: August 24, 2008, 06:35:38 PM

-insert choice words-

Can't you two ever just take it to PM? This is the second thread you've ruined with your off-topic bickering.

I'm done speaking to him. Every time he shows up he says something ridiculous that pisses me off. Go ahead and call me the bad guy here if you want to, but he's being unreasonable.

[Arch]

STAND DOWN, BOTH OF YOU.

Lower the T level a little bit, already. Looks to me like there are some misunderstandings and assumptions on both sides, as well as some semantic problems on both sides.

Chill.

[Elwood]

Wish that I could say my T levels were high. :/

[Dennis]

-insert choice words-

Can't you two ever just take it to PM? This is the second thread you've ruined with your off-topic bickering.

Third, actually. Why don't you two just put each other on ignore? And it's both of you bickering, not just one of you. I always have to watch these threads to make sure one of you hasn't crossed the line on the rules. I'm sure I'm not the only mod doing it. Really, ignore for each other might work for you, then you won't feel compelled to respond or take umbrage at what the other says.

Dennis

[kestin]

*wonders what all the fuss is about*

Some guys like vaginal penetration...
... and some don't.

I personally wouldn't think it womanly if they don't identify as a woman. Just like I wouldn't think a Woman was being a man if she used a Strap-on and didn't identify as a Man.

[Elwood]

I'm already ignored by two people. Sometimes I wonder who they are.  Mister isn't one of them. Mister is the only guy I recall having a lot of trouble with, so I can't imagine who else would put me on ignore.

My view on vaginal sex still stands. It's woman sex. That's how I see it. I don't think anyone can change my views by insulting me, so I don't think that's a good tactic to use.

[kestin]

I don't think Mister was ever saying you should have vaginal sex just to try it out, but that its ok to be open to the idea if you ever wished to and felt comfortable enough to do it. From their POV, its not considered a 'womanly' thing and they wouldn't think you're less of a man for doing so.

On the flip side, do you think any Transguys who willingly engage in vaginal sex are womanly? Because of this one act? I'm of the belief that who you are is more important in this case.

[Elwood]

You're reading too deep into it. Even butch dykes aren't womanly. But they're women.

[Mister]

I don't think Mister was ever saying you should have vaginal sex just to try it out, but that its ok to be open to the idea if you ever wished to and felt comfortable enough to do it. From their POV, its not considered a 'womanly' thing and they wouldn't think you're less of a man for doing so.

On the flip side, do you think any Transguys who willingly engage in vaginal sex are womanly? Because of this one act? I'm of the belief that who you are is more important in this case.

This is what I mean, yes. 

[Aiden]

Anyways...  personally I've tried personal attempts at penitration, personally I didn't find anything about it to enjoy.  It was uncomfortable and painful and that was it.  Seems only thing enjoy is the clitoris, and is why I am hesitant towards the desire of surgery for it.  I don't want to loose sensitivity.

[Arch]

Seems only thing enjoy is the clitoris, and is why I am hesitant towards the desire of surgery for it.  I don't want to loose sensitivity.

Boy, I hear ya there.

I'll never mess around with my lower anatomy--any of it--but then, I've been around for a lot longer than most of you guys and have had plenty of time to get used to the equipment. In fact, I'm successfully incorporating the, er, front hole into my own queer perception of myself. I don't think of it as having sex like a girl. Not anymore. Now I see myself as versatile. A boy with two holes, that's all.

We all have our way of looking at it. I'm glad I've found mine.

[JonasCarminis]

im not going to object to penetraion anywhere.  except maybe ears or nose. >_>  but it depends on the person an all that junk.

[Elwood]

I find it only slightly disturbing that so many transmen like it in the coochie. But I'll have to learn to grow to accept that instead of hate it, like many things in the world. 

[Arch]

I find it only slightly disturbing that so many transmen like it in the coochie. But I'll have to learn to grow to accept that instead of hate it, like many things in the world. 

Hey, you like what you like, and they like what they like. That's all.

[Aiden]

meh to clarify, I like the senation the clitoris has, but not that it's a clitoris.  Wish it had grown the other way.

ggrrr problems with stupid page loading

[Arch]

meh to clarify, I like the senation the clitoris has, but not that it's a clitoris.  Wish it had grown the other way.

Yeah, I can see that.

The other night my partner didn't feel like rolling in the hay, but I did. So I pulled a DIY. Later I told him that I shot my load without him.

I love looking at it that way.