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Quote from: trapthavok on August 17, 2008, 12:20:25 PM
Maybe it's a sign that we're not supposed to (physically) be women
I used to tell myself that my bad menstrual experiences were further proof that something was wrong...I thought I was the only one who thought that way, lol. But it was nowhere near as bad as your experiences, Nate. I'm sorry you had to go through so much hell.

The Pill helped me a lot. Then, when I was on a 28-day pill, a doc told me that I could skip periods altogether if I skipped the last week of pills. She told me to schedule a bleed every few months, and she gave me enough samples to cover the extra packs of pills I needed because my health plan apparently wouldn't cover it. Oh god, what freedom...it was great! Now I guess there are pills you can take that are built for that. I'd sure try them if I were still a bleeder.
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Lukas-H

As to Nate's question about whether I was on the pill, I'm not but I thought about it for a while. I'm really wary of any kind of medication though, I'm loathe to take anything unless I'm in a lot of pain, and also any possible side effects from taking the pill worry me some. I may end up considering them in the future if I get more cycles that are especially painful.
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icontact

Tis 'bout time I do something like that.

Presentation:

- I wear all male clothing, but it ends up looking butch since I have no binder, and thus the breasts are quite visible, especially as I wear fitted clothing rather than really baggy stuff to hide it. I dress like your stereotypical gay guy, not flamboyant though. Half my closet is Old Navy, and the rest of it is very similar. Mostly that's because I can't get away with anything more predominantly male. Once I move out, I'll be wearing more semi-formal clothing like more dress shirts than tees.

- No binder here, because of parentals. I wear tight sports bras and they definitely help, since wearing them makes me look like I am an A cup. However, they don't really flatten things out, but again, this will all change once I move out.

- My hair looks quite girly at the moment, as it's wildly curly, I always have it pulled back into one big pouf. I cut my own bangs about a year ago, and although they're not layered bangs anymore, they're just some strands of hair that are a few inches shorter than the rest, pulled behind my ears, they still look feminine. I'm in the process of growing them out again. The hair is also restricted by parents, but I'm not really sure what sorts of male haircuts you can have for curly hair, without cutting it really short, or getting an afro, so eh.

- I go by Sam, as it's a shortened, male version of my real name. My name's okay I guess, I stick to it out of habit and practicality I suppose. I think I mainly don't like it that much because Sam in my head is just so attached to a picture of a farmer boy or redneck, which is definitely not the image I want to portray. As I'm writing this, and reading everyone's responses about loving their name, I'm feeling more and more like I should stop going by Sam, as least online until I go full-time. A name I'm very interested in is Daquan. I just really like the image Daquan gives me. First of all it's a pretty original name. And it also gives me the image of a free-spirit, something not quite earthly, since I depersonalize quite often, I don't really believe that I am human. Last name, I'm not sure. Daquan was originally what I wanted for my last name but now I realize that I really don't like Sam. I guess more name-searching for me.

- I now pack all the time as it gives me a feeling of comfort, as it's easy to hide, and makes up a little for my lack of binding. In the beginning it used to give me a sexual thrill, but now it just feel right. I don't know how to explain it, but I just feel a lot more complete with it.

- I've been purposely lowering my voice for the past year or so, so it's quickly becoming a habit. Sometimes I forget, especially when I have strong emotions going, and it really sounds like a guy in puberty's voice cracking. Personality-wise, I act like the chivalrous or in light of the deterioration of culture, "overly friendly" guy. I open doors for girls, offer to carry stuff if they are having a hard time, that sort of thing. Sometimes I get weird looks but that's because they're surprised to see someone that nice. To be honest, as soon as I can pass physically, I should definitely be popular amongst the ladies. The men, I don't really know if I want a relationship with, but whatever.

Body Dysphoria:

- Ever since I realized I was a guy and not just an androgyne, dysphoria's been a big problem. I absolutely loathe the lumps of doom. Taking off my shirt just makes me feel like crying. I panic a bit to think that I still have two years before I'm even allowed to move out and thus order a binder, even overlooking that I may not be able to afford to move out by then. The lack of a penis has been getting worse, although packing solves the problem most of the time. Masturbating, I try to ignore the lack of equipment and just imagine that I do, but as soon as I stop concentrating on doing that, it goes downhill. Oh well.

- Yeah Dan I'd like to be taller as well, but I probably still have some more growing left to do. I'm between 5.2 and 5.3, so very short for a guy. My hips are fairly obvious, and I have a big rear, which makes me a bit paranoid that once I get on T, all that fat will redistribute to my middle, which I've worked really hard to make look good.

- My shoulders/arms and middle are the only things about my body that I really like, as I can cover all the rest of my body and see a boy if those are the only things that show. My arms are very well toned, at least for a girl when unflexed, as the extra fat is proportioned for womanly arms, hides the muscle. My stomach's got the faint outline of abs, I'm very happy with it. I like my face, it's just really round and makes me look a whole lot younger than I am. The roundness probably doesn't help me in passing but getting older will help that.

- My body hair is okay. I like the hair "down there," mainly cause it hide the fact that I have no equipment for about an inch longer when taking off pants. I have a faint happy trail, I'd like it to be more prominent, like those guys that have just a really obvious happy trail and no other chest hair. I prefer happy trails to chest hair, just cause it looks cooler, more artistic and organized. I'm neutral about armpit hair, both bare/hairy armpits look strange on guys.

Transition?

- I present as a butch lesbian to the general public since I have no means of getting away with binding at the moment. The next two years till I turn 18 could not be any longer.

- I'm pretty sure I want T, as all the changes it will create, are changes I'd like to have happen. Again, I won't get any of it till I come of age.

- I really want top surgery. Like, REALLY. End of story.

- I'm not sure what I want to happen "down there." I guess it depends if my dysphoria about it gets worse. Right now, it's not bad enough for me to want either metoid or phallo, unless they improve the results. Prosthetics and imagination will have to do.

Sexually

- I've gone out with girls before, but as a lesbian. And my recent gender discoveries will probably just make everything much more complicated. So I guess no more dating for quite a while. I'm no longer comfortable getting into a relationship with someone unless I have a binder/pack and can at least pretend I'm physically male. The person I love, well I fell for her while I still thought I was a girl, and so I'm just struggling with whether I still have feelings for her, [although that is both ridiculous as I've tried so many times to get over her, and should be resolved as soon as I see her again in a week and some] and if she's bi or a lesbian, since she's been yo-yoing about it.
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Aiden

Why you want to get over her?  If she still likes you shouldn't you stay with her?   (dono am not reall expeirenced in that, just wondering)
Every day we pass people, do we see them or the mask they wear?
If you live under a mask long enough, does it eventually break or wear down?  Does it become part you?  Maybe alone, they are truly themselves?  Or maybe they have forgotten or buried themselves so long, they forget they are not a mask?
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Elwood

Quote from: Phate on August 17, 2008, 02:01:45 AM
Quote from: Elwood on August 16, 2008, 11:15:39 PM-My period causes me major distress. During this time of the month, my breasts are hard and swollen. My nipples are erect and won't relax. My vaginal area is raw and pink and sensitive. A lot of straight guys think that stuff is sexy on a girl. I do too, but not on my own body. I really don't like it. I also feel external pain around my vaginal area. I've seen my doctor and there's no "reason" for it. My pads are not causing me irritation; I've taken all the precautions. One of the worst parts of my period is that I feel like I am wounded. I feel like someone cut my balls off and stabbed me between the legs and that I'm bleeding and a result. During my period, I am not "angsty" like most girls are, but instead, morbid, because a guy really shouldn't have to go through this.
With you all the way but I don't think ANYONE should have to go through the awful pain of a monthly cycle. I know some women try to take this 'accepting' approach to it, calling it their 'special' or 'moon' time or some BS like that but to be totally honest my cycle is nothing but a pain to me. I have a hard time feeling anything but hate when it starts out with me balled up in the fetal position because of how painful it is, sometimes nearly vomiting or passing out because of how severe the cramps are.
True. But it is the gift of maternity. No girl likes her period, but it provides benefits to a woman. It is part of being a woman, just like having a hairy ass and smelling bad is part of being a man. :P

My period is actually not that painful. It is more of a psychological woe for me. My cramps are minimal, though I do feel a pinching sensation in my ovaries (long after ovulation, which is pretty weird... I'll ask my OBGYN about that). I think for me the two hardest parts of my period are my breasts getting slightly bigger and too hard to "softly bind" (I wear a tank top over it to smooth it down, but not too tightly because I am preserving the spongy material to make top surgery easier) and the bleeding from a hole I shouldn't even have. Men have cramps. Men have hormonal days. Hell, sometimes men's breasts even get tender. But men don't bleed from between their legs. I feel like I shouldn't, either. It feels very wrong. It contorts in my mind, twists and writhes in agony like an ugly nightmare. It's enough to make me want to scream.

Quote from: trapthavok on August 17, 2008, 12:20:25 PMElwood, looks like we have a lot of similar and dissimilar traits between the two of us. Body hair is major for me, since I don't have any really, and having a penis is major for you.... Thanks for posting bro. Glad to see you back by the way! I may be where you're at given time, but I'm going to look at this as us being in two different places in time. I just figured out my being trans, accepted it, and created my name. Soon I will be wearing the clothes I love (I obsess about saving new clothes for school, so I'm holding off) and you've already accepted yourself, came out to your parents, and had far more months than I to think about all of this. Maybe I'll want T some day (especially since I hate my voice) but for now I'm happy with the way I am.  I feel like things are slowly creeping up on me as more and more time goes by, like disgust for my voice and hairless body, so I remain open to the thought that I may one day want T.
Body hair will help with passing. And I do like the hair I have. To have more would be exciting, but I don't really "need" it, you know? But you're right. Having a penis is such a big deal to me. I feel like a major part of my anatomy is missing...

Yeah, I was gone for longer than I said I'd be, lol...

For a long time I didn't want T, or even know it was an option. I just wanted to be a boy. When I found out that T can really help me look more like a guy, I thought it was a good idea, but I still hesitated. I've realized now that I'll be happier as a "he-she" than a "she."

Posted on: August 18, 2008, 09:13:47 AM
Quote from: trapthavok on August 17, 2008, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: Elwood on August 16, 2008, 11:15:39 PM-My name of choice is Daniel... I always tell people, "you can call me Dan." I really like the name. It's great. I try to ignore the fact that my whole family thinks I'm trying to be a little Dan Aykroyd. Since I came out and started using the name Dan, I actually identified with Dan Aykroyd a whole lot less. I've released him; I am not thinking about him like I used to. For once, I feel like I'm totally me. The name really fits, too. A lot of people say I look like a Dan.
By the way, I can't believe I forgot to add this but....whenever I tell some people I've chosen Nathaniel as my name, they reply with "...Like Nathaniel Hawthorne??" author of the Scarlet Letter, and probably some other stuff. It irks me when people say that because I don't find him inspirational or anything at all, I just really like the name Nathaniel. But the name fits, and I'm not changing it for people, don't change yours either if you love it as much as I love mine.

Janet and Cindi, I can't believe you guys feel like you're intruding here!! Your input is always welcome :) Thanks for the words of reassurance
I guess I don't mind people thinking I named myself after Dan Aykroyd, since he's an inspirational comedian. But... I didn't. D:< I genuinely like the name, and I feel like it's average enough to suit me.

And I agree. The girls are ALWAYS welcome here in FtM talk! :icon_flower:
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icontact

Quote from: Aiden on August 18, 2008, 08:48:51 AM
Why you want to get over her?  If she still likes you shouldn't you stay with her?   (dono am not reall expeirenced in that, just wondering)

Very very long story short, I don't know how she feels about me farther than as a good friend, so we're not together or anything. I wanted to get over her because it was causing me way too much pain to always be constantly reminded of how she was into other people. As of right now, it's not a big deal since I finally learned to let go for the most part. We just have a very unstable friendship. And I got tired of always being the one to fix it. So we basically stopped talking for several months, after which she came back and said she missed me, so now we're kindof awkwardly trying to rebuild the friendship. ::)
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trapthavok

Arch: Don't fret about it, I've lived with this kinda stuff all my life. 90% of the time I FORGET I'm sickle cell anemic to begin with, and my body just likes to remind me now and then  :D

Phate: I think it was Lutin who asked about the pill not me....Idk I forget. I'm wary of pills too just so you know, as in...I think they're all placebos set to make us THINK we're getting better but don't actually work and we pay a lot of money for these BS placebos. But I make an exception for my cancer/cramp pills cause they actually work :-\ so think about it? It really helps. I have a high tolerance to medication and it takes stronger doses to really affect me, so maybe you just need the right dosage for you.


Free -- That really sucks about you having to wear the binder when you're out of the house. Do your parents know you're TG? Have they forbidden it? My parents know now and I haven't stopped wearing my binder but it's like they don't even notice so maybe you can get away with it ;) Nobody else has ever really noticed either.
Quote from: freespeechz on August 18, 2008, 02:04:17 AMI have a faint happy trail, I'd like it to be more prominent, like those guys that have just a really obvious happy trail and no other chest hair. I prefer happy trails to chest hair, just cause it looks cooler, more artistic and organized. I'm neutral about armpit hair, both bare/hairy armpits look strange on guys.
OH and I agree with the happy trail thing too. Mine is faint, but it's there, and I don't really want a hairy chest, but more hair on my happy trail could only increase my ever-increasing self esteem ;) I love the happy trail.

I believe in chivalry too for the record. I always hold doors open for the ladies, always believe in ladies first... I hate when people say chivalry is dead.

And I guess finally, I've never had any type of relationship but I know I'm only attracted to girls. I'm the same way about entering one now-she'd have to see me as a guy. I couldn't take anything less.

Good luck picking a new name dude

Quote from: Elwood on August 18, 2008, 11:15:50 AM
True. But it is the gift of maternity. No girl likes her period, but it provides benefits to a woman. It is part of being a woman, just like having a hairy ass and smelling bad is part of being a man. :P

LOL

Quote from: Elwood on August 18, 2008, 11:15:50 AM
Quote from: trapthavok on August 17, 2008, 12:20:25 PMElwood, looks like we have a lot of similar and dissimilar traits between the two of us. Body hair is major for me, since I don't have any really, and having a penis is major for you.... Thanks for posting bro. Glad to see you back by the way! I may be where you're at given time, but I'm going to look at this as us being in two different places in time. I just figured out my being trans, accepted it, and created my name. Soon I will be wearing the clothes I love (I obsess about saving new clothes for school, so I'm holding off) and you've already accepted yourself, came out to your parents, and had far more months than I to think about all of this. Maybe I'll want T some day (especially since I hate my voice) but for now I'm happy with the way I am.  I feel like things are slowly creeping up on me as more and more time goes by, like disgust for my voice and hairless body, so I remain open to the thought that I may one day want T.
Body hair will help with passing. And I do like the hair I have. To have more would be exciting, but I don't really "need" it, you know? But you're right. Having a penis is such a big deal to me. I feel like a major part of my anatomy is missing...

Yeah, I was gone for longer than I said I'd be, lol...

For a long time I didn't want T, or even know it was an option. I just wanted to be a boy. When I found out that T can really help me look more like a guy, I thought it was a good idea, but I still hesitated. I've realized now that I'll be happier as a "he-she" than a "she."

Posted on: August 18, 2008, 09:13:47 AM
Quote from: trapthavok on August 17, 2008, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: Elwood on August 16, 2008, 11:15:39 PM-My name of choice is Daniel... I always tell people, "you can call me Dan." I really like the name. It's great. I try to ignore the fact that my whole family thinks I'm trying to be a little Dan Aykroyd. Since I came out and started using the name Dan, I actually identified with Dan Aykroyd a whole lot less. I've released him; I am not thinking about him like I used to. For once, I feel like I'm totally me. The name really fits, too. A lot of people say I look like a Dan.
By the way, I can't believe I forgot to add this but....whenever I tell some people I've chosen Nathaniel as my name, they reply with "...Like Nathaniel Hawthorne??" author of the Scarlet Letter, and probably some other stuff. It irks me when people say that because I don't find him inspirational or anything at all, I just really like the name Nathaniel. But the name fits, and I'm not changing it for people, don't change yours either if you love it as much as I love mine.

Janet and Cindi, I can't believe you guys feel like you're intruding here!! Your input is always welcome :) Thanks for the words of reassurance
I guess I don't mind people thinking I named myself after Dan Aykroyd, since he's an inspirational comedian. But... I didn't. D:< I genuinely like the name, and I feel like it's average enough to suit me.


Yeah I genuinely like my name too. In fact, I remember reading the Scarlet Letter in high school, and my friends started calling me "Pearl" for some stupid reason I STILL can't explain. That aggravated the @#%! out of me so the last thing I would want is to name myself after an author whose book created some stupid nick name for me.... But I really like Nathaniel, so I don't pay attention to the idiots who think I named myself after Hawthorne. Cause I know I didn't and that's all that matters to me.
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Elwood

Quote from: trapthavok on August 18, 2008, 02:45:10 PMFree -- That really sucks about you having to wear the binder when you're out of the house. Do your parents know you're TG? Have they forbidden it? My parents know now and I haven't stopped wearing my binder but it's like they don't even notice so maybe you can get away with it ;) Nobody else has ever really noticed either.
My parents and I have talked about binding. I told them I don't "believe" in it, lol. What I really mean is that I won't do it myself. It just doesn't work out for me, and my chest is really small anyway. I'm sure if I had bigger boobs I'd feel different. My mother forbids me to bind and my step mother doesn't want me to for health reasons. Good thing I don't need to.

Quote from: trapthavok on August 18, 2008, 02:45:10 PM
Quote from: Elwood on August 18, 2008, 11:15:50 AMTrue. But it is the gift of maternity. No girl likes her period, but it provides benefits to a woman. It is part of being a woman, just like having a hairy ass and smelling bad is part of being a man. :P
LOL
Woot. ;D

Quote from: trapthavok on August 18, 2008, 02:45:10 PM
Quote from: Elwood on August 18, 2008, 11:15:50 AM
Quote from: trapthavok on August 17, 2008, 12:20:25 PMElwood, looks like we have a lot of similar and dissimilar traits between the two of us. Body hair is major for me, since I don't have any really, and having a penis is major for you.... Thanks for posting bro. Glad to see you back by the way! I may be where you're at given time, but I'm going to look at this as us being in two different places in time. I just figured out my being trans, accepted it, and created my name. Soon I will be wearing the clothes I love (I obsess about saving new clothes for school, so I'm holding off) and you've already accepted yourself, came out to your parents, and had far more months than I to think about all of this. Maybe I'll want T some day (especially since I hate my voice) but for now I'm happy with the way I am.  I feel like things are slowly creeping up on me as more and more time goes by, like disgust for my voice and hairless body, so I remain open to the thought that I may one day want T.
Body hair will help with passing. And I do like the hair I have. To have more would be exciting, but I don't really "need" it, you know? But you're right. Having a penis is such a big deal to me. I feel like a major part of my anatomy is missing...

Yeah, I was gone for longer than I said I'd be, lol...

For a long time I didn't want T, or even know it was an option. I just wanted to be a boy. When I found out that T can really help me look more like a guy, I thought it was a good idea, but I still hesitated. I've realized now that I'll be happier as a "he-she" than a "she."

Posted on: August 18, 2008, 09:13:47 AM
Quote from: trapthavok on August 17, 2008, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: Elwood on August 16, 2008, 11:15:39 PM-My name of choice is Daniel... I always tell people, "you can call me Dan." I really like the name. It's great. I try to ignore the fact that my whole family thinks I'm trying to be a little Dan Aykroyd. Since I came out and started using the name Dan, I actually identified with Dan Aykroyd a whole lot less. I've released him; I am not thinking about him like I used to. For once, I feel like I'm totally me. The name really fits, too. A lot of people say I look like a Dan.
By the way, I can't believe I forgot to add this but....whenever I tell some people I've chosen Nathaniel as my name, they reply with "...Like Nathaniel Hawthorne??" author of the Scarlet Letter, and probably some other stuff. It irks me when people say that because I don't find him inspirational or anything at all, I just really like the name Nathaniel. But the name fits, and I'm not changing it for people, don't change yours either if you love it as much as I love mine.

Janet and Cindi, I can't believe you guys feel like you're intruding here!! Your input is always welcome :) Thanks for the words of reassurance
I guess I don't mind people thinking I named myself after Dan Aykroyd, since he's an inspirational comedian. But... I didn't. D:< I genuinely like the name, and I feel like it's average enough to suit me.
Yeah I genuinely like my name too. In fact, I remember reading the Scarlet Letter in high school, and my friends started calling me "Pearl" for some stupid reason I STILL can't explain. That aggravated the @#%! out of me so the last thing I would want is to name myself after an author whose book created some stupid nick name for me.... But I really like Nathaniel, so I don't pay attention to the idiots who think I named myself after Hawthorne. Cause I know I didn't and that's all that matters to me.
Haha. You're right. That's a good way of looking at it.
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icontact

--Nate:

They don't know, mainly because I know I would be in majormajor trouble, especially from my father. I'm more or less forced to keep the gender thing on the DL until I move out, unless I want to get my arse kicked of course. And I already tried to bind in front of him, but he noticed and made a huge deal about it. So no binding for me. :(

:-\ Chivalry is pretty dead. I'm like one of maybe ten guys I've seen who has ever held a door for a girl when it was not absolutely necessary or asked for or done in jest.

Thanks man. Choosing a name is pretty fun and challenging in a way, to find something that really fits. Oh, if anyone has any suggestions for a unique name, feel free to ship it my way. :D
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Lukas-H

Quote from: Elwood on August 18, 2008, 11:15:50 AM
Quote from: Phate on August 17, 2008, 02:01:45 AMWith you all the way but I don't think ANYONE should have to go through the awful pain of a monthly cycle. I know some women try to take this 'accepting' approach to it, calling it their 'special' or 'moon' time or some BS like that but to be totally honest my cycle is nothing but a pain to me. I have a hard time feeling anything but hate when it starts out with me balled up in the fetal position because of how painful it is, sometimes nearly vomiting or passing out because of how severe the cramps are.
True. But it is the gift of maternity. No girl likes her period, but it provides benefits to a woman. It is part of being a woman, just like having a hairy ass and smelling bad is part of being a man. :P

That's only if you want/like the benefits, and anyone can smell bad :D Far as I'm concerned, I loathe most 'benefits' to being in a female body and want nothing to do with them but I don't have any intentions to transition for various reasons. However I'm kind of curious about T, and wondering if a partial transition would help my dysphoria. That's for another time and another place though, if it ever happens it'll be somewhere far along the line.
We are human, after all. -Daft Punk, Human After All

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all. -Mulan
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trapthavok

Quote from: Phate on August 18, 2008, 03:27:31 PM
That's only if you want/like the benefits, and anyone can smell bad :D Far as I'm concerned, I loathe most 'benefits' to being in a female body and want nothing to do with them but I don't have any intentions to transition for various reasons. However I'm kind of curious about T, and wondering if a partial transition would help my dysphoria. That's for another time and another place though, if it ever happens it'll be somewhere far along the line.

PFT I NEVER wanted the benefits. People always used talk about "oh someday when you have kids" and it wasn't just that I didn't want kids...it was that I didn't want anything like a baby pushing out from down there. The thought always made me shudder, now it makes me cringe. I don't want the benefits of being a woman. I want the benefits of being a man- the physical strength, the hair, the body... I'll never have the male reproduction organs, and I guess I'm okay with that since I don't want kids, but I definitely know I want my current reproductive organs OUT. There's no benefit they could possibly give me that I'd ever want.

I'm thinking maybe someday a partial transition would help too. The reasons I want T just keep growing and growing. I want the hair. I want the deeper voice BADLY. I want to be able to get muscles the way guys build the muscle, and get rid of the "woman fat." I just want to look the way I want to look. Muscular, bearded...I WISH I could shave sometimes like some of the FtMs here can, but I have NO hair on my face whatsoever so I'd be scraping off my skin... But even though I want all these things, I don't want them badly enough for T just yet, but I feel like it's going to keep building up inside of me until T will be the only answer to making me happy...
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Elwood

Quote from: trapthavok on August 18, 2008, 03:37:28 PMPFT I NEVER wanted the benefits. People always used talk about "oh someday when you have kids" and it wasn't just that I didn't want kids...it was that I didn't want anything like a baby pushing out from down there. The thought always made me shudder, now it makes me cringe. I don't want the benefits of being a woman. I want the benefits of being a man- the physical strength, the hair, the body... I'll never have the male reproduction organs, and I guess I'm okay with that since I don't want kids, but I definitely know I want my current reproductive organs OUT. There's no benefit they could possibly give me that I'd ever want.

I'm thinking maybe someday a partial transition would help too. The reasons I want T just keep growing and growing. I want the hair. I want the deeper voice BADLY. I want to be able to get muscles the way guys build the muscle, and get rid of the "woman fat." I just want to look the way I want to look. Muscular, bearded...I WISH I could shave sometimes like some of the FtMs here can, but I have NO hair on my face whatsoever so I'd be scraping off my skin... But even though I want all these things, I don't want them badly enough for T just yet, but I feel like it's going to keep building up inside of me until T will be the only answer to making me happy...
I wish deeply that I could be a father... the right way. I don't want to do what Thomas Beatie did. I wish I had the right seeds. Then I could do things the way I'm supposed to. Instead, I guess I'll have to adopt. It's just a shame, really... I think I would've been an awesome father.

I want T just because it seems to be one of the last pieces of the puzzle. Also top surgery. I'd go full SRS but right now I just don't like the options. Maybe someday I'll feel different and go for phallo. Everyone here knows how important that is to me. But right now I'm only planned for top surgery and T. I'll take care of down stairs by getting quality prosthetics.

BTW: Shaving isn't really all that cool. I mean, I like how my face feels like sand paper, but that's really the only cool thing I get out of it. ;D
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Lukas-H

Quote from: trapthavok on August 18, 2008, 03:37:28 PM
Quote from: Phate on August 18, 2008, 03:27:31 PM
That's only if you want/like the benefits, and anyone can smell bad :D Far as I'm concerned, I loathe most 'benefits' to being in a female body and want nothing to do with them but I don't have any intentions to transition for various reasons. However I'm kind of curious about T, and wondering if a partial transition would help my dysphoria. That's for another time and another place though, if it ever happens it'll be somewhere far along the line.

PFT I NEVER wanted the benefits. People always used talk about "oh someday when you have kids" and it wasn't just that I didn't want kids...it was that I didn't want anything like a baby pushing out from down there. The thought always made me shudder, now it makes me cringe. I don't want the benefits of being a woman. I want the benefits of being a man- the physical strength, the hair, the body... I'll never have the male reproduction organs, and I guess I'm okay with that since I don't want kids, but I definitely know I want my current reproductive organs OUT. There's no benefit they could possibly give me that I'd ever want.

I'm thinking maybe someday a partial transition would help too. The reasons I want T just keep growing and growing. I want the hair. I want the deeper voice BADLY. I want to be able to get muscles the way guys build the muscle, and get rid of the "woman fat." I just want to look the way I want to look. Muscular, bearded...I WISH I could shave sometimes like some of the FtMs here can, but I have NO hair on my face whatsoever so I'd be scraping off my skin... But even though I want all these things, I don't want them badly enough for T just yet, but I feel like it's going to keep building up inside of me until T will be the only answer to making me happy...

All of this echoes my feelings almost perfectly. The though of carrying and birthing a child scares the daylights out of me and I don't ever ever wanna push something that big out.

Sometimes I like having my body though, while it's not typically feminine and lacks some curvature, sometimes I'm pretty enamored with it, maybe since it seems more neutral than other fem bodies I've seen.

BUT, sometimes I yearn, even ache, to have a male body and all the things that come with it. I go through phases where I want it and sometimes just feel dispassionate about it but lately I've been wanting it pretty bad, and it's hard to deal with.
We are human, after all. -Daft Punk, Human After All

The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all. -Mulan
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Aiden

LOL I tend to hold the door for men and women both.  As well as offer to help carry things, though the last I do usually do for women.  I also will say thank you, goodnight, and all that too.

Posted on: August 18, 2008, 05:11:08 PM
I also tend to be very defensive not just in reguard to self but for others.
Every day we pass people, do we see them or the mask they wear?
If you live under a mask long enough, does it eventually break or wear down?  Does it become part you?  Maybe alone, they are truly themselves?  Or maybe they have forgotten or buried themselves so long, they forget they are not a mask?
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Lachlann

Same here, Aiden. I was just taught good manners. :)
Don't be scared to fly alone, find a path that is your own
Love will open every door it's in your hands, the world is yours
Don't hold back and always know, all the answers will unfold
What are you waiting for, spread your wings and soar
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Aiden

Yeh well some of my manners are self taught as well.  Simply from observing and picking things I felt important and making them a part of myself.

But really, I dress tough looking, but am a mellow on the inside lol.    Well do have some spins in there as well, you piss me off or insult me or someone I care about and I bite back LOL
Every day we pass people, do we see them or the mask they wear?
If you live under a mask long enough, does it eventually break or wear down?  Does it become part you?  Maybe alone, they are truly themselves?  Or maybe they have forgotten or buried themselves so long, they forget they are not a mask?
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Lachlann

Haha. Dude, I'm the exact same way.

I act and dress tough but deep down inside I'm just a softy who likes to look after his friends and family.
Don't be scared to fly alone, find a path that is your own
Love will open every door it's in your hands, the world is yours
Don't hold back and always know, all the answers will unfold
What are you waiting for, spread your wings and soar
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Elwood

I dress like a thespian and I am a thespian.  :P
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noxdraconis

My turn!

Presentation:

I wear only men's clothes.  I absolutly love button-ups.  I am a mix of metro and geek when it comes to style, depending on whether I am out for pleasure or business.  I never leave the house without a binder, even if it is just to take the dog out for a quick piss for 5 minutes at 2 in the morning.  I have really short hair that is always well kempt.  I also sexually abuse hair gel.  I pack half of the time, because sometimes I am just to lazy to bother.

Body Dysphoria:

I hated my body since I was a child.  Once puberty hit, my hatred grew.  My biggest source of discomfort is my breasts.  Top surgery cannot come soon enough.  The monthly visitor causes both severe physical and emotional trauma.  Like many of the other guys here have mentioned, I too wish to be taller.  I LOVE my body hair.  I cannot get enough and I want even more.  I have very hairy legs, thighs, and butt and hair on my gut and chest and the back of my neck.  Lately I also noticed that I am starting to grow a hair or two on my back  ;D.

Transition:

I currently present as male.  I cannot wait for T.  I will be so happy when I finally get my first dose.  I want all of its effects:  facial hair, body hair, muscle mass, deep voice, hardened features, you name it.  Top surgery is very important to me.  I MUST have it. Regarding the bottom, I am going to do the minimum required for getting my social security changed and my birth certificate.  I hold out on the hope that they might one day make a decent looking penis.  If this happens I will be one of the first in line for it.

Sexually

I am currently asexual.  It might change after I transistion, but right now my emotional growth is too stunted for me to even have an orientation.


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Elwood

I forgot about that. I always pack. I think I want to invest in a quality packer soon... I'm going to be in PE, which, as I recall is fairly revealing.
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