We discussed whether or not something is biologically based or mentally based. Her stance was that it really doesn't matter, it is no less 'real' whether it is mentally caused, biologically caused, or both. The reason this was brought up was I mentioned a long time ago that if a biological causation was found, I would transition in AN INSTANT. She said I shouldn't look to science for validation. She posed the questions:
If you live to 50, and then a biological causation was found, would you regret not having transitioned today?
Or, if you transitioned today, and then at 50, and they found that it was really all in your head, would you be any less happy?
Making the very solid point that, whether it's mental or biological or social, or some combination of all 3, it doesn't matter, it's what is real. Which is a set of very solid points.
Then we debated on whether or not I'm crazy.
she said no, and I said I don't think I am, but it's got to be a possibility. I mean, if you ask most normal people about us, they would say we have to be crazy. GID is listed in the DMS-IV and only 'mental conditions' are listed in there. We went through the little checklist again as listed in the book. I laughed at one of them: childhood preference for games of the opposite sex.
I said yeah, but if you ask men honestly whether they would like to play a game where they get beat up (football) or a game where there is no winner or loser and it's just more of an activity (tea, hopscotch, jumprope, etc.) and none of their friends were around I'm pretty sure that most of them would rather play a game with no winner or loser.
She told me I was wrong, that one of the characteristics of men's games are competition. I'm not so sure.
Then we talked about my situation with my wife.
We talked about Vows, Happiness, Selfishness, etc.
That was pretty much my hour
Jessica