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how to prevent rape

Started by milktea, January 20, 2010, 08:34:13 AM

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Miniar

Take martial arts classes, practice..

If you can't "carry" a weapon, "become" a weapon.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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lisagurl

"That only works until someone comes into your home.  I mean it doesn't happen AS often, but it happens a fair amount."
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Anyone breaking into a home is fair game. An alarm system and 45 semi automatic will do the job.
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Miniar

Quote from: lisagurl on January 24, 2010, 04:49:31 PM
"That only works until someone comes into your home.  I mean it doesn't happen AS often, but it happens a fair amount."
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Anyone breaking into a home is fair game. An alarm system and 45 semi automatic will do the job.

Again...
Firearms are not universally available...



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Alyssa M.

All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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Asfsd4214

Quote from: Alyssa M. on January 24, 2010, 06:25:02 PM
Actually, rape prevention is incredibly easy:

http://www.feministing.com/archives/004756.html

Wow... that's actually even more useless than my link... I know it's supposed to be all deep and profound, but I just can't help but feel like it's stupid and naive.

Sorry, no offense is intended but, really? Yeah I suppose if someone tries to rape me I'll tell them something like "what kind of a message does this send".

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lisagurl

QuoteAgain...
Firearms are not universally available...

The beauty of being able to move to a place that values freedom.
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Britney_413

Sadly, while in some countries people are more or less citizens in other countries they are subjects. As far as I'm concerned, any government that does not respect an individual's right to be free from bodily harm and to protect and defend themselves accordingly is a country of subjects not citizens. The UN as well as Amnesty International also have similar "non-violence" beliefs. They condemn governments who abuse their "citizens" and call for action but at the same time don't believe people should be allowed to take up arms to defend themselves whether it is from each other or against their government. It is called hypocritical.
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Valerie Elizabeth

Quote from: FlanKitty on January 20, 2010, 09:12:50 AM
one word

handgun


I wish.  Had my pistol permit pulled earlier this year.  Love NYS, the Police, and the ATF.  not.
"There comes a point in life when you realize everything you know about yourself, it's all just conditioning."  True Blood

"You suffer a lot more hiding something than if you face up to it."  True Blood
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Keroppi

Quote from: lisagurl on January 24, 2010, 04:49:31 PM
"That only works until someone comes into your home.  I mean it doesn't happen AS often, but it happens a fair amount."
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Anyone breaking into a home is fair game. An alarm system and 45 semi automatic will do the job.
Unless you're in the UK, in which case you get sent to jail for assaulting the person breaking and entering, and they get a suspend sentence.
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Miniar

Quote from: lisagurl on January 24, 2010, 07:35:34 PM
The beauty of being able to move to a place that values freedom.

Accessibility of firearms is not the definition of freedom.

All places value freedom, what differs is just how it is expressed.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Hannah

Someone approaching from 20 feet away can be on top of you before you even get your hand on your pistol. Did you know people don't always fall on the first shot? No, unless you shoot them in the face you are going to have to shoot them again, and again, and again. That's not gonna happen with most people and you all know it. You'll start packing heat, maybe get it out as he takes you down, then he'll take it from you, beat you with it, prolly rape you anyway then shoot you with it.

I liked the feministing post, but I kept looking for "the onion" somewhere on that first website, lol.
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Miniar

There's a reason for the knight-stick other than the "non-lethal" option.
Police in several countries are trained how to handle knives.
Hand to Hand combat is taught heavily With firearm training in case of both military and police forces.

A gun is good for protecting yourself from an assailant from afar, but in close personal contact, a well placed blow is safer for you and more effective, and you don't have to "draw" your hands, elbows, knees, teeth, etc...



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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milktea

Quote from: rejennyrated on January 24, 2010, 03:48:54 AM
So please take it from me it is really not something to joke about. EDIT (I'm not implying anyone was by the way)
so sorry to hear about this...i created this post only because i was so amused by the vagina dentata invention, hope it didn't cause any bad memories to surface  :'(

ashley i'm truly shocked about queesland police...it's like reading the latest hoax google service on april fools...and just out of curiosity how bad's the crime rate over there?
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Asfsd4214

Quote from: milktea on January 25, 2010, 09:54:55 AM
so sorry to hear about this...i created this post only because i was so amused by the vagina dentata invention, hope it didn't cause any bad memories to surface  :'(

ashley i'm truly shocked about queesland police...it's like reading the latest hoax google service on april fools...and just out of curiosity how bad's the crime rate over there?

I was about to say that I didn't think our crime rate was as bad as the US, but then I did some quick googling. It is true that some crimes like homicide are much less common here than in the United States, and I suspect that most crimes statistics here would be a little bit lower than the US.

More relevant to the topic however, on the subject of rape, we apparently have one of the highest rates of rape in the world, and pretty much THE highest rate in the western world.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita

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Miniar

the highest rate of "reported" rapes

Iceland's nr. 10 on the list.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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lisagurl

Quote from: Keroppi on January 25, 2010, 02:47:12 AM
Unless you're in the UK, in which case you get sent to jail for assaulting the person breaking and entering, and they get a suspend sentence.
Remind me to stay away from socialist kingdoms. Justice starts with the individual not the government.

Post Merge: January 25, 2010, 05:14:06 PM

Quote from: Miniar on January 25, 2010, 04:16:53 AM
Accessibility of firearms is not the definition of freedom.

All places value freedom, what differs is just how it is expressed.

Freedom and liberty require no laws to inhibit how a person wants to live. It is not freedom when the government dictates the conditions.
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Miniar

Quote from: lisagurl on January 25, 2010, 05:11:12 PMFreedom and liberty require no laws to inhibit how a person wants to live. It is not freedom when the government dictates the conditions.

So, everything should be legal?
And nothing should be taxed and tax-money shouldn't be used to pay for anything?

If everyone is free to do whatever they want without limitation or fear of arrest or any such thing do you really believe it'll lead to some sort of utopia?

There's no such thing as total and unlimited freedom because you always have to have at least one restriction for there to be any freedom at all.
That restriction being "you don't have the freedom to infringe upon the freedom of your fellow man". Without that restriction, there is no security, and without security, there is no freedom at all.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Nicky

Quote from: lisagurl on January 24, 2010, 07:35:34 PM
The beauty of being able to move to a place that values freedom.

i.e. don't live in the states. If you lived in my country you would realise what a crock your so called freedom and liberty is, you live in a cage.

We can't own handguns in my country unless you belong to a special club. Standard gunshops don't stock them. You also can't carry weapons in public. The upshot of this is it gives police more power to deal with armed gangs and so on. It is a much safer place to live than the US.

I agree with Miniar.

I'm glad you survived Jenny and I think you made the best decisions you could at the time. Sometimes it is better to not fight to survive another day. What awful experiences those must have been. I wish these things did not happen to anybody.
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spacial

Quote from: lisagurl on January 25, 2010, 05:11:12 PM
Freedom and liberty require no laws to inhibit how a person wants to live. It is not freedom when the government dictates the conditions.

No, that's a nonsense, simply because it is unrealisable except on an Island with one person. (Even then it's debatable).

Freedom means that such restrictions as exist are based upon demonstrable social need and not dogma.

We restrict assault, theft and so on. We restrict certain types of relationships, especially concerning children, close relations, non-humans.

These and some others are demonstrable.


Some may attempt to justify restrictions based upon percieved association. There is a link in the News section to a newspaper article which makes a point of highlighting the crossdressing habits of some guy convicted of sexually assaulting some children. https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,71023.0.html

There is a long held belief, that was fairly prevalent when I was young, that all deviation form sexual norms were linked. So, someone indulging in homosexual behaviour was equally likely to fancy a spot of beastiality.

But these notions are a demonstrable nonsense.

Society, especially in socialist Kingdoms, is removing restrictions on behavaviour and lifestyle where these have no other bearing on society.

There is not and shouldn't be, any restrictions on relationships between people of the same sex for example.

The problems that remain in socialist Kingdoms are social acceptance. These problems exist in all societies. But it would seem that only in non-socialist republics can someone attempt to attract political attention, by promising to effectively legalise physical assaults on gay children.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,71455.0.html
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Sarah Louise

Like it or not as long as we live in this world, rape is going to happen.

It can happen to anyone, child or adult, male or female.  (I know from experience).

Total prevention is not possible, but we can limit our exposure by being aware of our surroundings, alert and through education.

Sarah L.
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Tis the wind and nothing more!;  Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore!!"
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