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Weird things that make you dysphoric...

Started by Espenoah, June 11, 2010, 01:37:11 PM

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kyril

There's a girly way to sleep?
(I just sprawl across the whole bed, limbs splayed everywhere. Who wouldn't, when you have a queen and you share it with a guy who sleeps all perfectly still and neat and straight on his side?)

Shopping makes me feel good, actually, I've been compulsively shopping since I came out. The bigger and better looking my wardrobe gets, the more like an ordinary guy I feel, and the more options I have when I want to leave the house. Also, shopping gives me the opportunity to go into men's departments in stores and get called "sir" and flirted with by cute gay guys. The guy in Abercrombie today was smoking.

A related thing that does kind of trigger me though is being flirted with by girls. I literally have no idea what to do or how to flirt back - I'm not used to girls even talking to me, much less flirting with me - and it just reminds me of all the stuff I missed out on learning when I was growing up. It helps, actually, that I look so young because people don't think it's weird when I get awkward. I really envy a lot of cis gay guys though - you know the ones who can make a woman feel beautiful and sexy while simultaneously making it obvious that they're not interested in that way? I want to be able to do that, but I don't know how.

My major recent dysphoria trigger: passing in a store or business or class, answering to "sir" or "dude" or "he," and then being outed by my name when I have to show my credit card or ID or answer when attendance is called.


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jmaxley

Quote from: kyril on June 13, 2010, 05:11:55 AM
Shopping makes me feel good, actually, I've been compulsively shopping since I came out. The bigger and better looking my wardrobe gets, the more like an ordinary guy I feel, and the more options I have when I want to leave the house. Also, shopping gives me the opportunity to go into men's departments in stores and get called "sir" and flirted with by cute gay guys. The guy in Abercrombie today was smoking.


I've been doing this too...have bought a ton of guy's clothes lately.  And I love being shown to the men's fitting room when I go in Wal-Mart. 
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Nikolai James

Anime makes me feel girly too. I'm not sure why. I'll draw it and look at it only when a "girly" mood has stricken me.
Wearing flip-flops makes me feel girly even though I have my father's feet. Wearing wifebeaters does too, because even though I love them, they accentuate my hips and chest and I have to wear a bra with them and the straps show and.. in short it's no good for my mood. Drawing people will make me dysphoric whether it's a male or female character - a male character reminds me of what I'm not and a female one does too because, while I have the same body, I don't identify the same. Pictures of pretty girls and handsome guys have the same effect. Drawing myself is difficult because I never know how I "should." My style of drawing isn't particularly "a girl's" or "a guy's," though, so at least there's that.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels kinda girly when I sleep! I always curl up in a ball.

Surprisingly, though, sex DOESN'T make me dysphoric. It probably would if I let myself think about it, but I refuse to ruin something that's supposed to be fun and intimate for my partner and I. And I like my handwriting. It's generic, all-caps guy writing and it looks a lot like two of my favorite teachers who happened to be guys, and like my dad's. So my handwriting makes me feel better. Wearing a watch does too.
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kyril

Quote from: Nikolai James on June 13, 2010, 07:58:55 PM
So my handwriting makes me feel better.
Me too, I've always had a *very* recognizably male printed scrawl.
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Wearing a watch does too.
This, not so much. I have these little tiny delicate wrists, see. They're small even for a teenage girl. I have yet to find a men's watch whose face isn't literally the same size as my wrist. Some are bigger. So I had to quit wearing watches entirely.


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Silver

Quote from: Nikolai James on June 13, 2010, 07:58:55 PM
My style of drawing isn't particularly "a girl's" or "a guy's," though, so at least there's that.

Well, what's the difference between a masculine and feminine drawing style?
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Nat

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Turtle

Weirdly, or sadly, it's seeing successful FTM guys which sometimes makes me feel bad. My partner (who's lovely, and mega-supportive) will say "hey, look at this great video online of this guy transitioning...doesn't he look amazing", then she's left wondering why I've gone all grumpy and have left the room for a very feminine sniffle in a corner.
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Jeatyn

Quote from: Turtle on June 14, 2010, 08:35:52 AM
Weirdly, or sadly, it's seeing successful FTM guys which sometimes makes me feel bad. My partner (who's lovely, and mega-supportive) will say "hey, look at this great video online of this guy transitioning...doesn't he look amazing", then she's left wondering why I've gone all grumpy and have left the room for a very feminine sniffle in a corner.

This gets me too, even on this site when I hear about people getting their first T shot or their top surgery....I'm happy for them don't get me wrong, but I feel hugely jealous and resentful at the same time because it isn't me.
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Phantom

Weird things that make me dysphoric...

my hands because they're small

And oddly enough my car. i got a Volkswagen convertible (not a beetle) and its red but sometimes i feel like its a girl car. But it makes me feel better when girls ask for a ride, with the top down. so i guess it helps sometimes. 
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jmaxley

Quote from: Jeatyn on June 14, 2010, 08:51:38 AM
This gets me too, even on this site when I hear about people getting their first T shot or their top surgery....I'm happy for them don't get me wrong, but I feel hugely jealous and resentful at the same time because it isn't me.

Yeah, same here.  I'm really happy for them but jealous too.
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Squirrel698

Perhaps I'm just strange but swimming made me feel a lot less dysphoric then usual.  I liked being in my swim trunks and with a tee shirt and a binder.  I've never passed so well in my life.  Majority of people saw the male swim costume with my hairy legs and thought man.  Spent all day at a water park and it was awesome.

Outside of that my hips and overall shape makes me feel dysphoric.  I tend to worry that I am eating to much and will gain weight which will make it worse.  Even though I know I am on T and more likely to gain muscle, I still get irrationally scared. 
"It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul"
Invictus - William Ernest Henley
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DRAIN

#51
Quote from: Farm Boy on June 13, 2010, 02:20:48 AM
Drawing myself.  You asked for weird things, right?  Well, a couple years back I had an art assignment where I was supposed to draw myself.  It was supposed to be realistic, so I had a hard time with that.  Drawing my female body.  Not cool.

I DID THIS TOO! it triggered pretty severe depression and dysphoria for a couple of months afterwards. it suuucked.

swimming for me, and the gym in general, doesn't bother me because i enjoy the exercise more than i hate my body  8)

weird things, hmm. anytime i realize that people in general see me as a fat chick. that just weirds me out.

edit:
i just discovered one: getting a haircut.  :-X
-=geboren um zu leben=-



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Vin

Quote from: DRAIN on June 15, 2010, 12:47:19 AM
i just discovered one: getting a haircut.  :-X

I know exactly what you mean. I went for one yesterday and got read as female etc etc. I also can't get it as short as I'd like because I still live with my parents. :(


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Farm Boy

I just discovered a new one too: Singing.  I get mad when I can't match the pitch of the lead singer and have to take it up an octave.  (Male singer, I pretty much don't listen to female singers...)  I think maybe that's why I tend to sing with the backup vocals; they're usually a bit higher so I can sing them correctly...  Grrr.
Started T - Sept. 19, 2012
Top surgery - Jan. 16, 2017
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Nat

YES. I loved singing. I used to love singing along with male singers, although sometimes i'd sing with others. But now more than ever i'm not singing at all, because i can't anymore. I can't even get to the point it sounds like a dying alien...  :'(

Hopefully I'll be able to sing again soon, i miss it, especially in the shower.
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elvistears

#55
Watching that movie the Basketball Diaries right now.  Had to post on this thread because it is making me feel dysphoric watching young guys play basketball and be guys.  He said something like, nothing like being young and jerking off.  Makes me feel like I've missed out on so much. It's Catholic school too, which makes it worse.  Wish I could go back in time.

Edit: once I got to the big junkie but I didn't feel so dysphoric.
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Alex Rene

I'm at a stalemate with my hair.  It's a point of confusion when considering my gender identity.

It's always been at least shoulder-length, except for once about 2 years ago when I cut it short enough to make it sorta spiky (it was still a little long for spikes and I wasn't using the right gel or whatever, either).  It's taken me 2 years to grow it back to shoulder-length.  I've also colored it and highlighted it in that time.  To make things 10 times worse, in the last year, I've always had my hair done by my coworkers at the salon I work at.  It would no doubt seem kinda odd if I suddenly said, "cut it all off!"  They'd be like, "Why?  It looks so good right now!"

Did I mention that I originally cut it short 2 years ago cuz I was wondering if I was trans?  Yeah.  I decided to grow it back out not cuz I decided I wasn't trans (which sorta happened for about 2 years - it's a long story, for a different thread), but because I was so emotionally attached to my long hair.  I'd never had it that short before, so I guess you could say I was grieving the loss.  Why can't guys have long hair?  I wanna have short hair as a guy, but I also want to keep my long hair until then.  Gah, so confusing....   ??? ???

Other than that, I'm don't feel that dysphoric.  I feel like I should be more dysphoric than I am, but in truth, I'm pretty darn well-adjusted to life as female.
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Silver

Quote from: Alex Rene on June 16, 2010, 05:02:41 PM
(it was still a little long for spikes and I wasn't using the right gel or whatever, either).

Two words: liberty spikes.
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elvistears

I had shoulder length Kurt Cobain style hair since forever.  It was hard to cut it off, but I'm glad I did because it helped me pass way better.  And in the end, I like it way better! That was my teen boy hair, now I'm grown up...or something.

Real funny, because when I was 17 had the Kurt hair, but was still presenting as a girl, just a scruffy grungey one, this older guy got a really big crush on me and followed me everywhere.  It turned out he was a huge Nirvana fan - clearly he was looking for a way to indulge in his homosexual desire for Kurt Cobain.  That's my theory, anyway.
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Farm Boy

I've got the same problem with my hair.  I always kept it ridiculously long and only recently cut it to just below shoulder length.  I like having long hair, but I couldn't pass with it.  I'm debating cutting it into a shaggy skater-ish hairdo but I'm afraid I'll miss it...  And that I'll look weird and still not pass...
Started T - Sept. 19, 2012
Top surgery - Jan. 16, 2017
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