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I wish there was more options so I could put not sure or other. this is just something I am curious about. I think it is intresting when you compare the differences between cis people's sexuality versus trans people's sexuality.

I believe that sexuality is fluid, and as a result I usually self-identify as queer or pansexual. I've been attracted to pretty much everyone under the sun except cisgender males, and I do strongly prefer being with women.

I agree with the fluid sexuality thing.  I actually am unsure of my sexuality.  I have only ever dated and slept with women. So I put gay but there are times when im more sure that im gay and times where I doubt it.

Only ever been with cisguys. Still working out what I want now/if I'm really comfortable getting into anything. Definitely still only attracted to guys at the moment so I guess that would make me gay..? Still not really out as transitioning to the world yet so I guess I feel like that would sort of rely on being able to convince another guy that I am one.

This is a very interesting question for me because all of my life. I have been attracted only to women, so I have considered myself straight, but now that I have come to terms with who I am and that I am transitioning. Does that make me a lesbian? But on the other hand right now anyway. I believe I would be tempted to take my new girl parts on a joyride(don't judge me) does this make me bisexual. I guess what I'm saying is I'm not 100% sure right now, but leaning towards lesbian.

Quote from: MelissaAnn on November 07, 2014, 04:12:33 PM
This is a very interesting question for me because all of my life. I have been attracted only to women, so I have considered myself straight, but now that I have come to terms with who I am and that I am transitioning. Does that make me a lesbian? But on the other hand right now anyway. I believe I would be tempted to take my new girl parts on a joyride(don't judge me) does this make me bisexual. I guess what I'm saying is I'm not 100% sure right now, but leaning towards lesbian.

Im in the same boat as you as far as only being attracted to women but at the same time wanting to experiment with men.

This boat is getting crowded ;)

Except for a handful of men I have only been attracted to women and with those men I believe it was more of who they were and their energy that attracted me than there bodies.

BUT I can definitely see some experimentation in my future.

I'm 100% lesbian. Never experienced any fluidity in my sexuality, and at this point, I really doubt I ever will. Plus, I've found the only woman I ever want to be with. <3

I clicked straight, but pre-everything I was into females, that slowly changed over time and now I'm 100% into guys.
However I still love and find the female form sexy, more so than the male form, but having said that, it doesn't do it for me for some reason

Pre everything currently but only ever been interested in guys.
The odd time I was with a girl, it just like meh, or ew  :-X

I had to put straight.  There needs to be a new orientation for those who are biologically one gender, chemically another gender, but attracted to the opposite sex of their biological gender (pre-op).  I like men.  I told my therapist I am a straight woman.  I think women are cute, fun to play/explore with, but at the end of the day... I would much rather be with a man.  This is a great topic to give thought to :)

Today I questioned my sexual orientation in my therapy session. It started as a conversation about my wife and her fears that I'm going to leave her for a man. I don't think I will, then the therapist asked me to seriously consider if I'm attracted to men.

My standard answer for this is that I have imagined myself with a man but I don't generally look at guys on the street or in other social settings.

But all tonight I'm asking myself if I am really attracted to men. And maybe I am. It sounds kind of crazy but I've been having this fantasy lately of how nice it would be to wear a diamond engagement ring. I'm at the point of finding one to try on.

I mean I do love my wife, as in really truly madly love her. But I think if we split I may be open to dating a guy. I guess we will see what happens when I get on HRT if it does anything to my sexual orientation.

I started re-questioning my sexuality before I realized I was trans per say. Basically when I bumped into Tumblr side of stuff haha
I was identifying as bisexual from age 15 to 26 then found out what pansexual was and have been going with that because its the label that fits closely with what I feel.
I don't think it matters in the scheme of things as far as my life goes. If I like the person in front of me in /that/ way and they are receptive as well, then awesome.
I'm more likely to be attracted to the type of person they are personality wise than genital/body wise. Of course I still have my likes and dislikes visually too? But it's no where near as important to me as the click I feel with the person instead.

Of course, thinking back to when I found this label, I was also learning to take a new perspective on in life as I learned what trans really was and about how I felt and so on.
I think cis persons can still learn about trans issues and all lgbt things and get a new perspective on things and maybe start to look in a different light if they choose too? So I don't think there's necessarily a difference per say trans vs cis wise. But more so, educational side there might be.
Maybe looking at it as, being trans you're more likely to learn about this subject and be more willing to understand and or relate than say a cis person willingly seeking out this information.
And maybe that's where the difference lays?

I'm not or barely ever sexually attracted to people. I think. I don't actually know what it would feel like, so for all I know, I might and just not know it. There may have been one time recently when I was sexually attracted to someone, but that was literally only once for a bit. So I guess that would make me asexual or gray-asexual? Except I like sex which means that most people would not consider me asexual because they don't understand how I could like sex without being sexually attracted to the person. So I guess I'm not.
I don't really care who I have sex with. Which, according to some people, would make me pansexual. Except I'm not pansexual since I'm not sexually attracted to everyone (or anyone). While I understand that it refers to genders and not numbers, I'm still not entirely comfortable calling myself that. This may also be partially because I got really sick of hearing pansexual "allies" claim to be attracted to "men, women, and ->-bleeped-<-s," hearing them talk down to bisexuals despite the fact that most bisexuals mean exactly the same thing just with less offensive slurs, and having them argue with my boyfriend about his sexuality because they do not see me as a man.
I call myself bisexual because, as I said, I really don't care who I have sex with (as long as it's not forced and/or pressured onto me) and I consider it to mean the same as pansexual.
I've only ever had sex with men and generally prefer them for dysphoria reasons and feeling like I'm able to click with them better. (I have no idea why.) So I sometimes call myself gay and many people assume I'm gay. This probably isn't fair to guys who genuinely are 100% gay, but it's difficult not to feel like the label at least partially fits when I've exclusively slept with guys.

In short, anything that isn't straight or lesbian.

I identity as pansexual, simply because even though I am a Sexual creature I'm not particularly attracted to any gender. So in terms of getting me all steamy someone's body regardless of how amazing it is just won't do it for me. Instead I'm attracted to certain personality types and traits, and they tend to go across gender boundaries - so that's why Im pansexual :)

I don't get hung up on orientation labels.  I'm trans and therefore beyond queer anyway.  I just like awesome people, and hey, anything goes.  I don't impose limits upon myself.

Actually, these days I'm pretty much asexual, but that will change when I'm finally packing a vag.

HRT made me heterosexual, and I now like guys. Before HRT and SRS I was dating women. I tried to ask myself how this could change. But that question became meaningless and pointless in the end. I just accepted my new sexuality. I feel nothing for woman anymore. I do think that HRT can change orientation. Seen it happen in quite a few people.

Quote from: PinkCloud on November 07, 2014, 07:45:36 PM
HRT made me heterosexual, and I now like guys. Before HRT and SRS I was dating women. I tried to ask myself how this could change. But that question became meaningless and pointless in the end. I just accepted my new sexuality. I do think that HRT can change orientation. Seem it in quite a few people.

Its funny that you said this because me and my therapist were talking and he said that many people who were hetero before their transition then up being hetero afterwards. I think it is highly unlikely that I would lose my attraction to women, but I am going to experiment I do not plan on denying myself of any sexual urge just because of my sexuality. I do not think I could ever be in a relationship with a man though.

Quote from: Alexis2107 on November 07, 2014, 05:30:33 PM
I had to put straight.  There needs to be a new orientation for those who are biologically one gender, chemically another gender, but attracted to the opposite sex of their biological gender (pre-op).  I like men.  I told my therapist I am a straight woman.  I think women are cute, fun to play/explore with, but at the end of the day... I would much rather be with a man.  This is a great topic to give thought to :)

I identify as a women (I am pre every thing) and attracted to women so I identify as a lesbian. why does there have to be a new label?

My husband of 23 years just left me for a "real woman" and now I am wondering about this very question. I have not a clue! I think that I'd like to date a woman just to see how I feel.

Cindi

I say I'm asexual, because I really don't care. It isn't something that's ever on my mind. If I ever end up in a relationship again they'd have to be on the same page. Even if I wanted to go there it would have to be after SRS, and I don't imagine I'll ever have the money for that.

Quote from: PinkCloud on November 07, 2014, 07:45:36 PM...I now like guys. Before HRT and SRS I was dating women. I tried to ask myself how this could change. But that question became meaningless and pointless in the end. I just accepted my new sexuality.... I do think that HRT can change orientation. Seen it happen in quite a few people.

I actually agree with this 100% although I cannot say that I feel absolutely "nothing" for women.  I like women and find some of them highly attractive in more of a sensual/emotional/intellectual, non sexual way.  I think that the key word in the statement above and also in the current vernacular is "orientation".  This is to say that while I am "oriented" towards men, and have become more than accustomed to most everything involved with sex with a man, (to the point of personal preference), I cannot say with total certainty that I will never engage sexually with another woman as I have on rare occasion in the past.

If it happens it will most likely be that the opportunity is presented to me by someone who I find attractive and sufficiently alluring to overcome my normal reticence to casual sex.  As I said, it has happened in y past and could very well happen again, but my preference, my orientation, is for the male of the species.

I put gay down but I definitely feel my sexuality is pretty fluid. I definitely usually find women more attractive but there are times when I kind of want to go for guys. its really confusing when this happens.

I wonder if how I will feel after hormones because it sounds like many people's orientation changes often.
its funny that actually came up at therapy last night how hormones my make me straight. lol im like "no!!!! I don't wanna be straight !!!!"lol.

actually I was like ok if that happens then whatever.... GIVE ME HORMONES lol

lol. I wouldn't worry about it, Amber. Some people say their sexuality changed after hormones, some say it didn't, some say their original preference strengthened... so you might become super gay instead. :D

Quote from: Pikachu on November 08, 2014, 04:52:37 PM
lol. I wouldn't worry about it, Amber. Some people say their sexuality changed after hormones, some say it didn't, some say their original preference strengthened... so you might become super gay instead. :D

Can't stop laughing q.q

I went with asexual, I've just never had any leaning, I just like affection and never really cared about sex. Could just be the loathing I have for a certain -something- of mine all these years, but I'm definitely curious if HRT will change my feelings on the matter next month.

I put pansexual, but I'm really just queer

Not talking sexually or romantically, but I've always been attracted to anyone who was aesthetically pleasing. I've never been sexually or romantically interested in guys, though. Every one of my male friends — with all their different personalities — have a consistent thing about them that would just be repulsive to me in a romantic situation. It's just that "guy thing", I suppose. I resonate with women, including tomboyish types. The tomboy/dyke girls have certain characteristics of men that aren't annoying while still maintaining feminine qualities. Plus, the female body is just more aesthetically and tactilely pleasing, and penises are frightening. I don't think HRT would change my mind on that.

Quote from: Pikachu on November 08, 2014, 04:52:37 PM
lol. I wouldn't worry about it, Amber. Some people say their sexuality changed after hormones, some say it didn't, some say their original preference strengthened... so you might become super gay instead. :D

one can only hope that's the case 8) lol.

 There is no mystery to me. Bisexual through and through. I am only attracted to girls or guys...no other deviations.

I just read a article that said that only about 3.4 percent of the country self identified as lgbt or unsure or other. its so crazy that there is such a huge difference.

though I don't believe the number is accurate bc some people are in the closet, it so interesting that there is such a huge difference in how trans people are oriented compared to cis people. it blows my mind.

I have so far had a few "straight" male friends (and one "straight" ex) come out as bi to me as well as a few people who came out to me as non-binary. Considering how low of a percentage LGBT people are supposed to be, I'm surprised by how many I seem to run into.

Quote from: Edge on November 09, 2014, 12:20:58 PM
I have so far had a few "straight" male friends (and one "straight" ex) come out as bi to me as well as a few people who came out to me as non-binary. Considering how low of a percentage LGBT people are supposed to be, I'm surprised by how many I seem to run into.

I think the percentage is a lot higher than reported, with girls "experimenting" and guys doing mental flips like insisting it's not gay if they top or the other guy is really effeminate. :-\

Quote from: Natalie on November 09, 2014, 08:45:59 AM
There is no mystery to me. Bisexual through and through. I am only attracted to girls or guys...no other deviations.

Yeah I am thinking I might be bi. Time will tell though. That said I love my wife, as in love her a lot and it's way more than physical attraction.

Quote from: ErinS on November 09, 2014, 02:57:00 PM
I think the percentage is a lot higher than reported, with girls "experimenting" and guys doing mental flips like insisting it's not gay if they top or the other guy is really effeminate. :-\

Yeah. The bi guys I know don't seem to care if they're bi, but at least one of them keep/kept up the appearance of being straight to avoid drama (we live in a kind of conservative city), a couple didn't want their parents to know, and I'm not sure about the others.

Yea I think trans people are genrally more open about our sexuality because we already have the trans stigma attached to us.  Do you think cis poeple would have similar numbers to ours if they were more honest about their sexuality?

Or does the fact that we go across or outside of gender boundaries make us more likely to be les/gay/bi/pan/a/fluid/queer?

Maybe we just think about our sexuality more then the average cis person as an effort to be as genuine as we can be to ourself?

The labels just don't matter for me and bi, pan or queer are as close as I can find.  It is the individuals and the relationship we create and share that matters.  I have loved and been loved by all sorts.  That has not changed for me with transition.  My wife and I are comfortably affectionate and people who do not know us seem to consider us a lesbian couple now.  We find it very curious that I get a kind of affirmation for being a girl as a result of their discrimination and disapproval when all we are doing is holding hands or sitting close together.  Like one of the fun lines from the "Transparent" amazon series; "so we were gay married before it was legal."

I agree with you Amber and the trans people I know have considerably easier time being honest about orientation.  I mean sheesh we are already outlaws to some

I really like girls ....but I don't like the idea of myself being straight . Is that weird?

So far, I'm straight and like only girls but it can change the further I am on HRT.

Quote from: kittylover on November 09, 2014, 07:29:50 PM
I really like girls ....but I don't like the idea of myself being straight . Is that weird?

It's kinda strange. Not gonna lie lol.

But im actually in the same boat as far as not even wanting too be straight. But I know I'm not straight at this point in time because I'm more attracted to women.

Quote from: kittylover on November 09, 2014, 07:29:50 PM
I really like girls ....but I don't like the idea of myself being straight . Is that weird?

hah.. I kind of identify as a male lesbian...

In truth though I'm straight.  I completely agree with Kittylover.... The idea of calling myself straight is so gross to me.  In my group of friends its typically been a 4-letter word. (with 8 letters...)

Quote from: Edge on November 09, 2014, 06:36:53 PM
Yeah. The bi guys I know don't seem to care if they're bi, but at least one of them keep/kept up the appearance of being straight to avoid drama (we live in a kind of conservative city), a couple didn't want their parents to know, and I'm not sure about the others.

I've had the same experience.  A lot of people have sex with people of both genders but don't openly identify as bi.

I've seen several trans girls with girlfriends, and I have to think that takes some serious disregard for physicality, especially the fact that many find it difficult to accept someone born male transitioning to female are actually women essentially. She has to be one very special individual to be able to not care about the nether regions. It's not something that bothers me since sex isn't even important to me, but I would think gay cis women are less likely to be open to trans women. So, I'm going from being less likely to attract straight women to being even more less likely to attract anyone at all besides creepy ->-bleeped-<-s. Or perhaps I just think too much. :P

Quote from: GnomeKid on November 09, 2014, 10:13:32 PM
hah.. I kind of identify as a male lesbian...

In truth though I'm straight.  I completely agree with Kittylover.... The idea of calling myself straight is so gross to me.  In my group of friends its typically been a 4-letter word. (with 8 letters...)

Exactly the same as me.
Straight just sounds so so wrong. Damn breeders.
But I have no interest in women. Always been guys I've liked. So I don't know what to call myself most of the time.
So I guess I'll have to flip yours and identify as a female gay  :P

Quote from: Illuminess on November 10, 2014, 04:22:13 AM
I've seen several trans girls with girlfriends, and I have to think that takes some serious disregard for physicality, especially the fact that many find it difficult to accept someone born male transitioning to female are actually women essentially. She has to be one very special individual to be able to not care about the nether regions. It's not something that bothers me since sex isn't even important to me, but I would think gay cis women are less likely to be open to trans women. So, I'm going from being less likely to attract straight women to being even more less likely to attract anyone at all besides creepy ->-bleeped-<-s. Or perhaps I just think too much. :P

I'd say in the general scheme of things women care less about your genitals than men do, and especially gay women at that. That and the good deal of gay women aren't absolutely repulsed by penises anymore than most gay men are repulsed by vaginas(despite the silly stereotype), it's the whole package(pun intended) connected to the genitals as well that is not so appealing. Plus, depending on how the cis partner likes to have sex, and how the trans partner feels about using their genitals, they actually could be seen as an unusual benefit in terms of sex. Going by internet anecdotes it would appear many cis lesbians aren't against having PiV sex, they just don't want to do with with a man.

I'd say my orientation is generally lesbian. Also I guess male lesbian can apply because I've had two different girlfriends a few years back, and the sexual experiences were, well, lesbian-esque(and that's coming from one of them), which in retrospect was probably causing problems at the time.

Quote from: 23 Skidoo on November 10, 2014, 01:54:41 PM
I'd say in the general scheme of things women care less about your genitals than men do, and especially gay women at that.

Definitely agree, but it still can be a concern. Being trans alone makes the idea of a relationship seem far less likely.

QuoteGoing by internet anecdotes it would appear many cis lesbians aren't against having PiV sex, they just don't want to do with with a man.

Well, that puts me in the clear, then.

QuoteI'd say my orientation is generally lesbian. Also I guess male lesbian can apply because I've had two different girlfriends a few years back, and the sexual experiences were, well, lesbian-esque(and that's coming from one of them), which in retrospect was probably causing problems at the time.

Even before transition I had the worst time trying to have a relationship with straight cis women. She was pretty much dating a woman in disguise, expecting things from me that I wasn't capable of. So, I feel that if I do meet someone new, and she doesn't run away, it'll probably be something that actually lasts. The chemistry would finally be right.

Quote from: Illuminess on November 10, 2014, 04:22:13 AM
I've seen several trans girls with girlfriends, and I have to think that takes some serious disregard for physicality, especially the fact that many find it difficult to accept someone born male transitioning to female are actually women essentially. She has to be one very special individual to be able to not care about the nether regions. It's not something that bothers me since sex isn't even important to me, but I would think gay cis women are less likely to be open to trans women. So, I'm going from being less likely to attract straight women to being even more less likely to attract anyone at all besides creepy ->-bleeped-<-s. Or perhaps I just think too much. :P

I think most women would not all the sudden stop finding you attractive if they found out that you were trans. there is a lot of possibilities, but we often think the negative is the most common.

many women, i guess it applies to men as well, might be intriguid by the fact that we are trans.  Just because the idea of us being trans isnt appalling to them doesnt mean that they are ->-bleeped-<-s.

at 50 voters we have 20% for gay, pan, and straight. 12% for asexual and 28% for bisexual.

Quote from: amber roskamp on November 10, 2014, 08:46:33 PM
at 50 voters we have 20% for gay, pan, and straight. 12% for asexual and 28% for bisexual.

I voted "asexual", but "demisexual" is probably more accurate. I just couldn't engage in coitus (as Sheldon would say) right now due to not being terribly fond of the bits and pieces. Since my libido is already nearly nil I wonder if HRT would end up having a paradoxical effect on me. :P

Quote from: Illuminess on November 10, 2014, 09:17:38 PM
I voted "asexual", but "demisexual" is probably more accurate. I just couldn't engage in coitus (as Sheldon would say) right now due to not being terribly fond of the bits and pieces. Since my libido is already nearly nil I wonder if HRT would end up having a paradoxical effect on me. :P

I wish i knew how to put up more options then i would have also had these options demisexual, queer, sexually fluid, other, and unsure.

Robosexual? :P

Quote from: Cindi Jones on November 07, 2014, 08:02:43 PM
My husband of 23 years just left me for a "real woman" and now I am wondering about this very question. I have not a clue! I think that I'd like to date a woman just to see how I feel.

Cindi

That is .. heartbreaking to read. I am so sorry. I cannot imagine how someone could suddenly change their opinion of an entire concept like that after 23 years.

On topic, my closest identification is probably straight-bicurious because I feel attraction to women as well as men, but unanimously prefer men both for interactive and romantic purposes. My attraction seems a bit scattered, though, and I am not wholly attracted to either gender. Extremes of facial attraction are more apparent to me in men, while middle-ground is more apparent to me in women. Female torsos are neutral to me, but male legs are neutral to me as well. I am especially put off by the idea of another person's vulva. I also feel no compulsion to physically interact with women, whereas I do with men. Ironically, I find women slightly easier to admire visually.

It can be very difficult for me to lose myself in lust for someone because I typically feel nothing for some component of every person. I end up focusing on romance, which means just men. If there were an "other" vote, I would have selected that one.

Quote from: PinkCloud on November 07, 2014, 07:45:36 PM
HRT made me heterosexual, and I now like guys. Before HRT and SRS I was dating women. I tried to ask myself how this could change. But that question became meaningless and pointless in the end. I just accepted my new sexuality. I feel nothing for woman anymore. I do think that HRT can change orientation. Seen it happen in quite a few people.

I absolutely agree, it happen to me, it felt a bit unnerving at first, but I embraced my new sexuality, I'm now a straight woman married to a man, we're now just an ordinary husband and wife, the normality of it all.

A straight trans woman. When I tell it in my daily life they get confused but here I assume it is pretty simple right :P?

When I still lived by a male identity I did have a girlfriend.. gosh.. sometimes feel a bit bad for her. I remember how we first started dating and she told me all her ex partners are now gay. I told her I was transitioning like a year ago (no idea why, I was bored). She probably, well, got a self-esteem probleem x_x. Karma! She was a cheating bitchy person so hey, all worked out :P.

Rambling. Anyway! With girls I like kissing, cuddling, and such. The sensual stuff. With men I tried more sexual stuff. I never had a relationship with a guy so I am not sure.. I just assume I am straight because women are sexy and interesting but not for a relationship I think ..or.. so.. .. .. wah.. confusing..

Growing up, I was asexual or at least I had no idea what my sexual orientation was because I wasn't attracted to boys or girls.

I was 20, when by accident I was jokingly asked by my male remate if I wanted to have sex with him.  I got mentality excited, but freaked out.

Of course, I just recently learned I'm an intersexual.  Which might explain why I might have had trouble figuring things out.

(Just in case your wondering, yes I like boys.)

Quote from: Kirey on November 20, 2014, 12:33:51 PM
Rambling. Anyway! With girls I like kissing, cuddling, and such. The sensual stuff. With men I tried more sexual stuff. I never had a relationship with a guy so I am not sure.. I just assume I am straight because women are sexy and interesting but not for a relationship I think ..or.. so.. .. .. wah.. confusing..

I agree with much of this, besides I cant see my self being in a relationship with a man. So does that make me homo-romantic hetero-sexual? idk. I put gay... I don't find guys attractive really, but I do want to have sex with a guy sometime down the road

I'm far too obsessed with feminine expression — even "soft butch" or androgynous — that I don't think I could ever start finding men romantically attractive. The most I'm capable of is appreciating androgyny like Brian Molko from the band Placebo. I've never once felt an emotional connection to a guy. Masculinity just doesn't click with me. The close guy friends I have are pretty sensitive themselves. One of them is even confirmed low in testosterone. Speaking of, my results came in:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10808346_300004060210638_292399333_n.jpg?oh=d2a2031a3a9c2e53ab5977c37c217bca&oe=547150A6&__gda__=1416707771_6ad02395996d0beb4dabea0ba6059c9a)

That trips me out.

Anyway... if HRT actually did make something snap in my brain to where my attractions started to shift I'm not sure how well I'd like that (in this moment, anyhow). I'm pretty sure that's not going to happen, though. If anything, I'll just end up being even more gay. But..when chemicals change in the body your thoughts and feelings tend to flow along with them, so what you think you don't want today could very well be exactly what you want tomorrow. Biology is a freak show.

I am mostly attracted to other guys because they are your friend and you get along with them and then their also your partner it's a two in one package although I am open to people that are females, genderqueer, bigender ect. 

I strongly dislike categorizing and labeling people by sexual orientation. It's just... bleh.

For simplicity's sake, I always say I'm a bisexual. I'm in a long term relationship with a (cis)woman but other than that I know I'm pretty damn gay. I'm one woman's straight guy. |D

Quote from: amber roskamp on November 09, 2014, 10:04:53 AM
I just read a article that said that only about 3.4 percent of the country self identified as lgbt or unsure or other. its so crazy that there is such a huge difference.

though I don't believe the number is accurate bc some people are in the closet, it so interesting that there is such a huge difference in how trans people are oriented compared to cis people. it blows my mind.

Actually, it's not crazy. The hormonal differences in utero that make one trans are also suspected of playing a role (not the only role but a role) in why some people are gay, lesbian, or bi. So if you've been exposed in utero to atypical hormonal ratios that caused you to be trans, there would naturally be a higher chance of a trans person being gay, lesbian, or bi.

The following presentation is about 70 minutes long. It was given at the American Medical Association's annual meeting in 2011. It discusses the hormonal factors in utero in much greater detail and links LGB to T because of this.

http://media01.commpartners.com/AMA/sexual_identity_jan_2011/index.html


As for myself, I listed bisexual. But this isn't a change for me, but an acceptance. I was attracted to two of my best male friends in high school. One turned out to be gay and kissed me once, and I wasn't shocked. I just wished I could have been their girlfriends instead. :P But I was attracted to females as well and I fully admit that (though 20 years ago I would have vehemently denied being attracted to guys, out of guilt).

I'm only gay when I'm a guy.

Haha ok so let me explain. I am female bodied. I am attracted to men therefor I am straight. I am also genderfluid so sometimes I am a man. When I am male I am still attracted to men so I am gay. 

I am kind of straight with a but... I like men and openly vocalise it . Sometimes I see a woman that attracts me but that is rare. Even though I am looking for a man to have a relationship with, I am still open minded and would consider a girlfriend if the right person came along. It just depends on the emotional connection.

Pre-hrt I considered myself pansexual, now I'm only attracted to men but I'm not against light fun with women so I consider myself heteroflexible

Bisexual with leanings toward men. Pre-transition I was also bisexual but more into women and femininity in general (so, feminine guys were nice too). Going on T made me feel more sexually open-minded and then swayed my attraction heavily toward masculinity. A lot of the time I feel almost gay, but I do have occasional attraction to women. The 'types' of people I find attractive has also shifted, and now I really like very masculine men. :D

I like guys and girls and everything in-between, and I like being a girl and (sometimes) being a guy, so I guess that qualifies me as pansexual...??

I was recently with a transguy, and he mentioned that he was curious about people who were attracted to transguys as well as transgirls.  For some reason he thought it was strange...I had never really given it any thought.  I guess what it comes down to is that I am a very sensual and sexual person, and I enjoy getting intimate with people I like, regardless of the combination of the bits and pieces. 

As long as the person I am with is happy and comfortable with themselves, then I am comfortable with them however they are.

100% into girls so I put gay. Nothing fluid about my sexuality. I have a certain curiosity about what it would feel like to be with a guy post-op, but I'm too grossed out and repulsed by guys to actually go through with it.

Quote from: PPatrice on December 18, 2014, 08:39:24 AM
A very difficult question, I think.

In times past the one's predominant sexual orientation (heterosexual/homosexual) was referenced (i.e., in the journal-literature) with re: to one's "natal" birth-sex (i.e., perceived primary sexual characteristics), regardless of whether one was transsexual/transgender, pre-op/post-op, or what.  I'm inclined to think that this practice was merely one of convention/convenience in communication.  By the old convention if a mtf grew up liking women they were deemed to be heterosexual, and that label/referent was retained regardless of transition or lack-thereof.  [Don't know if that convention has changed.]

Nevertheless...yeah, I think ts/tg sexual orientation is rather fluid.

I consider myself a lesbian. I go by how I identify/how I am inside. not with how I was assigned at birth. it doesn't make sense to base your orientation on a gender you are not. I really don't think that many trans people who like people with the same gender would think of them self as straight (example trans women dating a cis women would be a homosexual couple). So if journalist and other writers consider a trans women straight if she like cis women then I think they need to reeducate themselves.

I ID as asexual right now... I lurve the human form, and as a birth female have had boyfriends, but am not interested, etc.

I put straight because I'm not into cis women, only men...
O crap, I should have put bisexual because I probably would date another pre-op girl  :embarrassed:

Okay... I've been on HRT for nearly a month now. My skin is looking better and getting softer, I've got breast soreness, and an overall feeling of relief and content; but I am noticing that I feel a bit less restricted in my attractions. Not physically, just emotionally. Masculine shape still has no appeal to me, but I feel more willing to connect with certain male friends in ways testosterone must have been shielding.

I have a very close friend, Hector, and we always share everything with each other. He's never felt like he had to hold back crying around me, or not talk to me about intensely emotional subjects. I'm not becoming romantically interested in him, but I do feel far more "sisterly" like I want to comfort him instead of just being that available ear. It's fascinating. I wouldn't say it's scary, but it's definitely — how should I say — queer.  8)

The girl in my brain is finally getting some hormonal "leg room", and is already feeling mischievous with my overall wiring. It makes me giggle then run away to hide under the sheets like I'm playing hide-and-go-seek with myself, peering out wide-eyed with playful paranoia and silly squeals. :P I feel like my cells are coming alive from some 33-year dormancy.

I put straight.. I've never found women sexually arousing/attractive. But I love women and the female form as a beauty.. :D

I put gay ;D transition just strengthened my attraction for women.

I voted bisexual. I am actually only attracted to women. I have been all my life. Even after 2 years nearly on HRT. But I feel in my ideal I would be happiest in a relationship with either a Gay woman or another younger trans woman who I could support and look after.
Judith

I'm mtf and bi but more geared towards guys(60%-70%), as in I am attracted to girls but also are jealous of them the same time if they are prettier/sexier so it feels sort of weird. So far I've only dated men, but I'm open to woman/trans woman as well.

I identify with gay (i.e., I am attracted to women).

It seems possible to me that I will end up bisexual. I can almost imagine being attracted to men, so as I start to feel and see my body as more female maybe that will get stronger. I think it's extremely unlikely that I'll lose my attraction for women, though.

its funny im the one who made this poll and I didn't even put queer down and that's like the best one to describe me....

queer/bisexual; i'm about equally comfortable with both labels. i tend to be attracted to women more than any other gender, though.

As I was trying to explain my transition to my house mate I said that I was still attracted to women, essentially making me gay. That's a tough thing to compute, because a pre-op, gay trans woman isn't exactly homosexual. Maybe homogenderous? He said "well, I don't really see you as gay" and I'm pretty sure he was thinking physically, not emotionally.

Even before transition I was far more attracted to the "dyke" or "female androgynous" look and personality when men are supposed to be attracted to high femme aesthetic and personality. I like the strong, passionate and fierce woman who is more socially engaging versus the sweetly domestic "girl next door" who sits quietly when around your friends. So, I'm a male-bodied lesbian woman quite literally; not a "non-homosexual transsexual" as coined by the vacuous Dr. Blanchard. I just can't not consider myself queer. Sexual orientation and gender identity are psychological, if not neurological. I may have been a straight male to the world, but that person is long dead.

Quote from: amber roskamp on December 18, 2014, 09:03:43 AM
I consider myself a lesbian. I go by how I identify/how I am inside. not with how I was assigned at birth. it doesn't make sense to base your orientation on a gender you are not. I really don't think that many trans people who like people with the same gender would think of them self as straight (example trans women dating a cis women would be a homosexual couple). So if journalist and other writers consider a trans women straight if she like cis women then I think they need to reeducate themselves.

well said Amber!

If me and my gf were ever called a straight couple, it would definitely not sit well with me. Like thats invalidating my gender by saying that  >:(

I have always been gynephilic, woman loving.  Now, after years of estrogen I find myself slightly attracted to men.  I was in a water aerobics class with 20 other women and one man.  The man was bearded and fit and wearing a speedo.  His bulge was obvious.  Despite all my intentions I found myself attracted to him.  I seriously don't want to desire men, but it seems that estrogen has changed me in ways I never intended.

Randi

Bisexual, and I anticipate I always will be though, who knows? 

My favorite take on sexual orientation and transition is from Matt Kailey.  He distinguished sexual orientation from cultural labels, and identified orientation as towards women, men, both, neither, non-binary people or any possible gender combination.  Society labels that as straight, gay, or bi based on your perceived gender, but "straight" or "gay" isn't the orientation itself.  Its just a descriptor, a label.  Kailey was a "straight" woman who transitioned and became a "gay" man (his own language), but his orientation didn't change-- it was always to men. 

Being bi makes the language considerably easier, I have to say.

I used to be so asexual that I didn't even have any interest in anything to do with sex. I was even quite a visible figure in the community and as an activist for asexual visibility and acceptance. Well, about two months on hormones put the end to that pretty definitely.

I was always pretty sure that if I was attracted to somebody, it would be women I'd be interested in. In fact, even before I realized I was trans I did think that I might be sexual if I was a woman (and completely missed a pretty damn obvious clue about being trans, I was pretty good at missing those). It was pretty hard to deal with, actually, because it made me feel like one of those creeps who just gets kicks out of girls doing it together, even though I was extremely aware that I was getting the kicks out of the idea of being one of the girls instead of some kind of voyeuristic fantasy.

Here I kind of do blame society because female homosexuality is so fetishised to absurd levels that it's hard to approach the subject at all without feeling guilty about it. It's become easier as I start to accept myself as female more and more, I start to accept myself as a lesbian more and more. But still, it's something I approach with much caution, because the feelings of guilt are still there even though even my lesbian friends hammer to me how I shouldn't. But another part of it also is that I am keenly aware that very large portions of the lesbian community don't accept transwomen, either amongst them or as a concept in general. And even though I usually just do my thing and tell people to shove it, this time it's too sensitive a topic for me.

I'm probably going to wait until after my surgery in any case before becoming sexually active in any way in any case, so I'm still at least two years away from it. But it's surprisingly become one of the more tender topics in my whole process. I have to say that I would've preferred to remain asexual. Life was much more simple back then, even if I did have to explain what it is and convince people that it's really a thing.

I primarily attracted to women, so for practical purposes I go by homosexual / lesbian.

However, if the moon is blue and Venus aligns with Mercury, I can find men attractive, but it is very rare. When I do I find more feminine men attractive, and am noticing their feminine features.

In contrast, I find like 1/4-1/3 of women attractive.

 >:-)


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I have sex with guys quite often. One of my friends have been intimate quite often. And supposedly I enjoy the sexual contact but in general I don't look at guys. Or really like them. It's just I'm kind of dealing with things from the past that's why I still do have sex with guys. But I think I am a lesbian? Because I'm very confused about my identity. I feel really crazy though saying that because I'm physically male so I'm obviously not completely gay. I'm not a true lesbian. But I really am not attracted to girls as a guy. So I'm not really sure. Something with a preference to females. I'm also physically intersex so I truly feel weird considering myself either.

I like butch women, androgynous women, and even transguys (not to be offensive to transguys by placing them close to those categories... I just feel like they are more relatable, and understanding than cisguys). I would probably date a normie ciswoman before I would a cisman though. I prefer gender nonconformists, just because they're easier to relate with, and understand. 

Quote from: Elsa Delyth on December 27, 2014, 08:32:37 PMtransguys (not to be offensive to transguys by placing them close to those categories...

Yeah I have a bit of this problem as well and see some transmen sexually as women.

Its not something I would ever act on however, as I know that I hate when people are attracted to whatever male traits I have, but I do admit its a thing.

Well I'm having issues with this myself. Admittedly I've only dated guys but I only kissed a girl once, out of curiosity, and found out I liked it tons more. So years later I've never dated a girl, though I do feel a very strong attraction towards women and I'm very shy so its hard for me to ask a girl out. I've dated guys and while they were nice themselves it was weird(ish). I say weirdish because I did partially like it a lot and sometimes I see a guy and think, "Wow he's hot." then I feel confusion as to why I think that. So I guess I'm bi but its too early to tell for sure. Some people say at my age, I'll know. I call that a bunch of horse manure (band teacher phrase lol) and say I'm still learning. So I may be a lesbian (as of now) or I might be bi I really don't know.

Note: Sometimes I look at a guy as though I think he's cute but I'm actually wondering what it's like to be him. As is his gender.

Quote from: Peebles on December 27, 2014, 09:20:59 PM
Yeah I have a bit of this problem as well and see some transmen sexually as women.

Its not something I would ever act on however, as I know that I hate when people are attracted to whatever male traits I have, but I do admit its a thing.

Yeah, makes me feel like a terrible human being... I went out with a transguy once, and kept getting the pronouns wrong, even though they didn't once make the same mistake with me... makes me feel like a hypocrite, and a worse person...

Quote from: Peebles on December 27, 2014, 09:20:59 PM
Yeah I have a bit of this problem as well and see some transmen sexually as women.

Its not something I would ever act on however, as I know that I hate when people are attracted to whatever male traits I have, but I do admit its a thing.

I tend to be attracted to androgynous female born people anyway. Besides one girl. That's mainly what I'm attracted to the thing is I don't consider myself attracted to her a girl only as a female. Which ->-bleeped-<-s up conflicting interests really.

For a while i wasn't sure what sexuality I was. Before I came out as Trans I only dated women but I had feelings for guys plenty of times so I guess I'm Bi.
Things are still kind of confusing tho.

I labelled myself as a lesbian for a long time, before I knew trans* was actually a thing. I now label myself as pansexual though but I wonder if I can really say that. I don't have any sexual attraction to men but could see myself being attracted to them. Women on the other hand, I'm attracted to romantically and sexually. Cis or trans doesn't really matter to me.

I would like to add that my wife is the only person I've been sexual with and she's still pre-op. However, I've never seen her as anything but female so...there's that.

Quote from: wolfduality on December 28, 2014, 08:04:02 PM
I labelled myself as a lesbian for a long time, before I knew trans* was actually a thing. I now label myself as pansexual though but I wonder if I can really say that. I don't have any sexual attraction to men but could see myself being attracted to them. Women on the other hand, I'm attracted to romantically and sexually. Cis or trans doesn't really matter to me.

I would like to add that my wife is the only person I've been sexual with and she's still pre-op. However, I've never seen her as anything but female so...there's that.

what I am about to say has nothing to do with your comment I just like your avatar pic ;D

Quote from: amber roskamp on December 28, 2014, 09:32:30 PM
what I am about to say has nothing to do with your comment I just like your avatar pic ;D

Aww, thanks! :)

 I'm not really sure where am. I am 56 years old I have only been intimate with one person in my life and I am married to her. I meet my wife when I was 25 she pursued me for weeks till I went out with her.
  When I was in high school I was attracted to both sexes but my internal confusion kept me from getting too close to anyone, a problem I am still trying to deal with. I did have a friend I was very close to and I imagined that he was my boyfriend, never let him know. When he got married his wife hated me, maybe she sensed what I never said. I have not seen him in 20 years but I still think about him all the time. Had a dream last year that I was at a wedding there was a woman there, she was being hassled by some people so I intervened to help her that's when I saw she was my old friend.  Still trying to figure that dream out.

The two men I was in relatively long term relationships with later turned out to be gay, and the woman I was with still identifies as straight. I've selected pansexual. Think potentially I could be attracted to anyone but on experience it does tend to be mainly gay men and women who aren't openly gay.

Tbh, bi - while I like boys, there are some lookers on here :~]

totally pansexual.

When I first started dating as a woman a few months ago, I went into it as a straight female. Through my dating adventures I eventually discovered that gender or sex does not matter to me at all.

It's ALL about the person....the soul behind the eyes.

I think one of the most amazing changes that transition has brought about in me is this: it has opened my heart in ways that I never imagined, and let me experience entirely new levels of beauty and love.

I voted asexual, which is the term I feel comfortable with at the moment. That said, I'm pre-T and pre-everything. And I do find the male figure pleasing, it's more my own body that makes me feel like I don't want to um...interact with anyone like that. I'm starting to think/wonder that if when I start T, transition more, and have less body image issues that I will identify as gay instead.

I have no idea where I stand sexually (I'm inclined to believe I'm either grey-asexual or asexual completely), but I have the capacity to be romantically attracted to any gender. I prefer feminine and female-identifying people, though. To keep it simple, I'd just call myself bisexual.

I am straight with a light bisexual component. I married a woman as man (and we are still married) but after srs I am more attracted to straight guys and I love to have sex with men. Perhaps I am addicted to have sex with men. I could have sex with a woman but in future I prefer men for a relationship.

After trying to find out who I am I would now call me a straight woman.

Lara

More Bi than I used to be Pre-HRT, I'm more curious and sometimes even 'bothered' when I see certain types of guys now. Still overwhelmingly into women

I used to think dating another trans individual wouldnt be for me but after several recent dates with ciswomen I realize personality and compability weigh so much more heavily into if I or the other person want something more. And cis people seem way more apprehensive when you tell them youre trans. Whether its beforehand or a little later, there seems to be no bigger turn off it than that it seems^^