Poll
Question:
Did you ever (or do you) like to play video games?
Option 1: No, I don't enjoy them
votes: 27
Option 2: Sometimes
votes: 45
Option 3: No, I don't enjoy them
votes: 11
I have never liked playing video games and growing up I could not understand the
fascination of them by my friends. I never thought it might be related to TS until
I saw this video today.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/health/2008/02/13/gupta.video.games.cnn (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/health/2008/02/13/gupta.video.games.cnn)
Male brains seem to get addicted to video games whereas female brains do not.
The only games I ever really enjoyed playing were story-type games. Roleplaying games, basically. My brother made me try everything from Doom to Quake to Starcraft to whatever, but it was Baldur's Gate and Neverwinter Nights all the way for me. I kinda completely lost interest around the time I left university though, which is a good 5 or 6 years.
Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. My brain is female and I get addicted to video games.
While theres a lot of men in comparison to females playing video games I dont think this necesarilly has to do with having a female brain
I have been playing video games since I was young, still do it on the Pc online too but yet I still literally everyone that meets me says I radiate something feminine; my gestures, voice, interests ( child care- Im actually good at it, fashion, non-sports, wicca, all my friends are female except for my male brother who I play games with
So what makes that me then?
PS: One of my gaming friends online is a girly girl who has a daughter and works at a hospital and says she still plays too much WoW. We both play healer "classes"more though, shes a Priest and Im a Druid...something gaming girls do more often than guys playing percentage wise. Pet classes are very popular with girls too. Lumbering warriors are the least..
If there are exceptions to the rule than Its not entirely true :P
Quote from: Veetje on February 13, 2008, 01:49:57 PM
While theres a lot of men in comparison to females playing video games I dont think this necesarilly has to do with having a female brain
I have been playing video games since I was young, still do it on the Pc online too but yet I still literally everyone that meets me says I radiate something feminine; my gestures, voice, interests ( child care- Im actually good at it, fashion, non-sports, wicca, all my friends are female except for my male brother who I play games with
So what makes that me then?
PS: One of my gaming friends online is a girly girl who has a daughter and works at a hospital and says she still plays too much WoW. We both play healer "classes"more though, shes a Priest and Im a Druid...something gaming girls do more often than guys playing percentage wise. Pet classes are very popular with girls too. Lumbering warriors are the least..
If there are exceptions to the rule than Its not entirely true :P
Hard to say. My partner, who is quite definitely a girl, gets addicted and prefers warrior classes. And rants about the fact that most of the female warriors wear impractical armor.
Quote from: error on February 13, 2008, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: Veetje on February 13, 2008, 01:49:57 PM
While theres a lot of men in comparison to females playing video games I dont think this necesarilly has to do with having a female brain
I have been playing video games since I was young, still do it on the Pc online too but yet I still literally everyone that meets me says I radiate something feminine; my gestures, voice, interests ( child care- Im actually good at it, fashion, non-sports, wicca, all my friends are female except for my male brother who I play games with
So what makes that me then?
PS: One of my gaming friends online is a girly girl who has a daughter and works at a hospital and says she still plays too much WoW. We both play healer "classes"more though, shes a Priest and Im a Druid...something gaming girls do more often than guys playing percentage wise. Pet classes are very popular with girls too. Lumbering warriors are the least..
If there are exceptions to the rule than Its not entirely true :P
Hard to say. My partner, who is quite definitely a girl, gets addicted and prefers warrior classes. And rants about the fact that most of the female warriors wear impractical armor.
I met maybe 2 warrior girls too...but I met alot more hunters, priests, druids and paladins :P
Its good there are exceptions though...I personally get a little sick of seeing yet another girl in a healing *nurture* role/class and want to see more ladies doing hurtful things
But I dont think it will ever be 50/50
Quote from: Veetje on February 13, 2008, 02:12:02 PM
Quote from: error on February 13, 2008, 02:03:38 PM
Quote from: Veetje on February 13, 2008, 01:49:57 PM
While theres a lot of men in comparison to females playing video games I dont think this necesarilly has to do with having a female brain
I have been playing video games since I was young, still do it on the Pc online too but yet I still literally everyone that meets me says I radiate something feminine; my gestures, voice, interests ( child care- Im actually good at it, fashion, non-sports, wicca, all my friends are female except for my male brother who I play games with
So what makes that me then?
PS: One of my gaming friends online is a girly girl who has a daughter and works at a hospital and says she still plays too much WoW. We both play healer "classes"more though, shes a Priest and Im a Druid...something gaming girls do more often than guys playing percentage wise. Pet classes are very popular with girls too. Lumbering warriors are the least..
If there are exceptions to the rule than Its not entirely true :P
Hard to say. My partner, who is quite definitely a girl, gets addicted and prefers warrior classes. And rants about the fact that most of the female warriors wear impractical armor.
I met maybe 2 warrior girls too...but I met alot more hunters, priests, druids and paladins :P
Its good there are exceptions though...I personally get a little sick of seeing yet another girl in a healing *nurture* role/class and want to see more ladies doing hurtful things
But I dont think it will ever be 50/50
*shrug* Most of the gamer girls I've talked with prefer warrior classes or shooting games.
Guess a lot of it just depends on experiences.
I like to play games sometimes. Most of mine sit on the shelf collecting dust.
I am pretty far from addicted. I may have periods where I like to buy them. But as it stands I may play a video game every few weeks for maybe a couple of hours. Kind of a way to waste time more then anything. For the most part I sometimes do it, but pretty rarely.
I never really saw the point in the addicting games like WoW and Halo. Not much of a point to me.
Its a fun thing to do on occasion. But far from something to do everyday for hours on end. I rather sleep personally.
I loved to play video games and I do admit that but I do not think it has anthing to do with my brain getting "addicted" to them really. I used to play games to feel better, I would ALWAYS play as a female character when that option was availible and if choosing your friends in the game was an availible option in the game they would always be female friends. Really, I used it as a way to make myself happy and to escape reality in a sense... I did the same with computers. I would also sometimes play violent games like "Halo" or games where you could pick how you wanted you character to be (ie good or evil, boy or girl, ect.) like "Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic" to vent my anger and frustrations.
After I went on HRT that stopped in literally the first week of HRT, I just lost all interest in them and really it's amazing considering if you knew me I use to spend 75% or more of my time playing them. When I got on HRT though they seemed not as exciting nor as enjoyable and really overall I just did not need them anymore.
Anyway that's my experience. ;)
Playing a game was mostly an escape for me too....but I only got more frustrated
I still have issues with playing female characters, I mostly have female ones, they make me uncomfortable in a different way than the male characters I have
I like to play solitaire.... does that count? I have never been interested in the shoot em up games.
I've always been interested in strategy games but no one has ever really made any good ones that I know of for the computer. Anyone know of any?
Cindi
Quote from: Renate on February 13, 2008, 03:52:59 PM
Quote from: Veetje on February 13, 2008, 02:12:02 PM
I personally get a little sick of seeing yet another girl in a healing *nurture* role/class and want to see more ladies doing hurtful things.
I guess that you don't know many ex-wives! >:D
Renate
No, I dont know any no ^^
I've always been interested in strategy games but no one has ever really made any good ones that I know of for the computer.
I've always liked SimCity, RailBarron and the rollercoaster games, but that about it. I've had a computer since 1984 (Trash 80) and I've never been into the game aspect.
My natal sister likes them. She is somewhat male though even she said she should have been the boy and me the girl. But she is no TS by no means. I used to like them but i would rather do other things.
well honestly i dont think they provide a clue one why or the other honestly . and i have played them all
all the way too doom . but then i got hook on guild wars . and after i got to playing guild wars. that was
the end of all other games as far as i see it . but thats just me tho
Quote from: redfish on February 13, 2008, 09:00:53 PM
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to be serious though, i pwn noobs and there's nothing anybody can do about it
LMAO!!!!!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: stop takeing my lines redfish please :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
i like games, rts,fps and mmorpg<my favorite by far. i do liek the stero typicaly male shooters but by far prefer online rpgs. tend to play healers and hunter styled classes better and enjoy them more
I dont know how to vote... when I was younger Id play video games as an escape and as a way to vent my entirely too destructive tendencies... I played constantly every chance I got... and if it wasnt a video game, it was an IRC-RPG...
Then it happened...
I had just bought a PS 2 and Grand theft auto san andreas<sp?> was still a "New" game...
2 weeks later I bent over and felt a sharp pain in my behind... I had started HRT... with in a few days I lost allmost ALL interest in playing video games... Dont know why... I think Ive only played a few dozen hours of games sence... and thats only because I had absolutely nothing else to do but sleep.... Go figure...
Quote from: Kimberly Kilpatrick on February 13, 2008, 04:17:12 PM
My natal sister likes them. She is somewhat male though even she said she should have been the boy and me the girl. But she is no TS by no means. I used to like them but i would rather do other things.
This is off topic but your pic on your profile doesn't look too bad. It still looks male somewhat- some feminime and a little andro. But your are starting to get with good projection.
I think sometime on HRT you can get facial changes(it really does happen).
I think it has more to do with the culture and the type of games.
Initially it was seen as as socially backward to play video games
and sign of geekyness. So, culturally women were not interested.
Women are more social so its logical that they would be interested
with games with a more social component rather than a violence
competition component.
The universe type role playing games are getting bigger and bigger
and in the younger crowd have more and more women playing.
I've seen as many women addicted to games like WII which
have a much more social component than in games that
you can play alone.
Quote from: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 08:44:52 PM
well honestly i dont think they provide a clue one why or the other honestly . and i have played them all
all the way too doom . but then i got hook on guild wars . and after i got to playing guild wars. that was
the end of all other games as far as i see it . but thats just me tho
guild wars ftw
Quote from: emma? on February 14, 2008, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 08:44:52 PM
well honestly i dont think they provide a clue one why or the other honestly . and i have played them all
all the way too doom . but then i got hook on guild wars . and after i got to playing guild wars. that was
the end of all other games as far as i see it . but thats just me tho
guild wars ftw
forgive me emma but my mind seams like is alll over the place tonite for some reason :P so forgive me
for ask what is ftw?? sorry to ask that but iam feeling dizzy right now :P
*shrugs* I don't play video games. I don't own a system. My roommate wants to get a PS2, although. My last roommate got one and we played it a couple of times, but that's it... we didn't sit in front of the TV playing for yours. Yet, I know guys who can do that. I get bored with the games eventually, and I also like different type of games, and usually short, every once and a while things -- although, i love social type of games, where at least two or a group of people can play.
At my old place, we'd generally only play the PS2 when people were over, and we'd have turns playing some fighting game.
--natalie
I used to play video games a couple years ago, but haven't played them for a while. I don't know, they just aren't really fun to me. Guitar hero was actually pretty cool, but I've only played it like twice. A lot of my friends love games and they don't understand me and I don't understand them :P I mean, I just figure there's always something better to do, but I know that's not always true. Just a personal preference really not to play them. I don't think it has anything to do with what you "'truly" are in my opinion. But again I'm no expert, just stating my opinion.
Posted on: February 14, 2008, 11:45:35 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 14, 2008, 08:03:04 PM
Quote from: emma? on February 14, 2008, 07:42:15 PM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 13, 2008, 08:44:52 PM
well honestly i dont think they provide a clue one why or the other honestly . and i have played them all
all the way too doom . but then i got hook on guild wars . and after i got to playing guild wars. that was
the end of all other games as far as i see it . but thats just me tho
guild wars ftw
forgive me emma but my mind seams like is alll over the place tonite for some reason :P so forgive me
for ask what is ftw?? sorry to ask that but iam feeling dizzy right now :P
Just asked my friend on AIM. He says ftw stands for "for the win" I dunno, it makes sense I guess hehe.
Quote from: shanetastic on February 15, 2008, 01:47:07 AM
Just asked my friend on AIM. He says ftw stands for "for the win" I dunno, it makes sense I guess hehe.
My brother is a huge CS:Source player, and indeed, FTW is "for the win".
I hate them......
but some people like them no matter what gender they are.....but it seems to be mostly kids and men that play them...
Quote from: Berliegh on February 15, 2008, 05:46:21 AM
I hate them......
but some people like them no matter what gender they are.....but it seems to be mostly kids and men that play them...
well i can say this there woman just as well as men and kids that play mmo,s a lot ::) ::) you would be
shocked to see the numbers if the gameing companys was to keep track of it ::) ::)
Quote from: debbie.j on February 15, 2008, 06:57:37 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on February 15, 2008, 05:46:21 AM
I hate them......
but some people like them no matter what gender they are.....but it seems to be mostly kids and men that play them...
well i can say this there woman just as well as men and kids that play mmo,s a lot ::) ::) you would be
shocked to see the numbers if the gameing companys was to keep track of it ::) ::)
it's probably split 50 / 50 so the topic is irrelevent..
Quote from: Berliegh on February 15, 2008, 07:00:51 AM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 15, 2008, 06:57:37 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on February 15, 2008, 05:46:21 AM
I hate them......
but some people like them no matter what gender they are.....but it seems to be mostly kids and men that play them...
well i can say this there woman just as well as men and kids that play mmo,s a lot ::) ::) you would be
shocked to see the numbers if the gameing companys was to keep track of it ::) ::)
it's probably split 50 / 50 so the topic is irrelevant..
um no i would have to say the numbers would be more then the 50/50 split. and i dont belive this topic
irrelevant. as it does give some insight in to the world wide gameing comuinty. as well as a few other
things ::) ::) ::) ::)
I used to play 70+ hours a week of games, now I play much less, but I still play often enough. I like videogame RPGs (role-playing games) like, I have no experience with table-top (D&D for example), some puzzle games, some shmup* games and maybe a few racing games. Some platform games. I abhor first-person shooting games.
*shmup = shoot them up -and that's not a first-person shooter, that's those old-school games where you're a small spaceship in the sky/space and you shoot enemies all over the screen while avoiding being killed. Examples include Gradius, 1942, Starsoldier, Starforce, Section Z, TwinBee, Shikigami castle and DoDon Pashi Daioujou.
Puzzle games I like include mainly Bust-a-Move series games with Bub and Bob, they're more exciting than Tetris anyway. And old game of the genre, besides Tetris, would be Flipull, or Puzznic.
Platform games include Super Mario series, MegaMan series, Adventure Island series, Ninja Gaiden (old series) and such. I usually stick within a series and don't like them all...though platform were probably some of the most widespread 2d side-scrolling genre.
I tried a few FPS, and couldn't even stand to play 10 minutes. The only one I even liked is Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus - and that's because I'm an unconditional Final Fantasy fan :P I had to beat it. My brother is about 10x better than me.
yes i used FTW refering to 'for the win'
Oh my goodness. Guild Wars! I used to nothing but PvE (for those of you not familiar with the lingo that's Player versus Environment). But the environment becomes a little predictable. I fell in love with PvP (player versus player). I like to do the Random Arenas to see all the crazy things people come up with but mostly I like kicking a** and taking names. As far as the profession I play, its a melee ranger wielding a scythe. Guild Wars FTW!
never was much of a pvp'er pve is.. dull any more.. so the only comfort i find is the social side and well hardmode :D
I can tell you that playing video games has NOTHING to do with gender. I know serious gamer girls (GG's) who will kick ANY guys' behinds in FPS (first person shooters). I've played shooter games against girl gamer clans (Frag Dolls, PMS, etc) and they are young, typically attractive and they play video games extremely well. Many of them play for 6-8 hours a day. They take it as seriously as guys.
With that said, maybe there is something to the actual "addiction" part of gender, I don't know. I don't really believe in gender markers like "omg, I can't play video games anymore, that's too boyish" or "no, I don't listen to that kind of music" etc. You are who you are. I used to play video games somewhat moderately pre-transition, but I know I was doing it just to avoid really coming to terms with things. It's been a year and half or two years since I really played my XB360. If I have a friend over and they want to play, I'll play with them (and usually win, lol) but when they leave, the system doesn't really come back on. Just lost interest in it for some reason. It's like watching television to me, just have better things to do with my time, you know? Meghan
Quote from: emma? on February 15, 2008, 12:16:49 PM
yes i used FTW refering to 'for the win'
hiyea emma thanks for the info :)it,s just been one of those days for the last 2 days it seams like sigh
Quote from: MeghanAndrews on February 15, 2008, 05:57:47 PM
...I used to play video games somewhat moderately pre-transition, but I know I was doing it just to avoid really coming to terms with things. It's been a year and half or two years since I really played my XB360. If I have a friend over and they want to play, I'll play with them (and usually win, lol) but when they leave, the system doesn't really come back on. Just lost interest in it for some reason. It's like watching television to me, just have better things to do with my time, you know?
Same kinda thing for me. I lived vicariously through the characters I created and chose to ignore real life by doing so. Once I started transitioning, my motivation for gaming just, well, evaporated. I enjoy tabletop RPG's a lot more now, simply because of the social side of it...
Not to mention the possibility of bumping into Vin Diesel at a gaming convention. Poster-boy for gaming geeks! And not at all unsightly.
Quote from: Maddie Suzumiya on February 15, 2008, 05:35:42 PM
Oh my goodness. Guild Wars! I used to nothing but PvE (for those of you not familiar with the lingo that's Player versus Environment). But the environment becomes a little predictable. I fell in love with PvP (player versus player). I like to do the Random Arenas to see all the crazy things people come up with but mostly I like kicking a** and taking names. As far as the profession I play, its a melee ranger wielding a scythe. Guild Wars FTW!
hiyea Maddie Suzumiya mysel mostly iam pve. pvp is ok .i go when i need bath points :P
Posted on: February 16, 2008, 06:25:18 AM
Quote from: emma? on February 15, 2008, 05:47:38 PM
never was much of a pvp'er pve is.. dull any more.. so the only comfort i find is the social side and well hardmode :D
hiyea emma me too and right now iam pve only for the most part myself . hard mode is to funny some times
:laugh:
Quote from: AlwaysAmanda on February 13, 2008, 01:27:28 PM
Male brains seem to get addicted to video games whereas female brains do not.
Play them is not the same as addicted to them.
Quote
Yes, love to play them - 17 (50%)
Sometimes - 10 (29.4%)
No, I don't enjoy them - 7 (20.6%)
Total Voters: 34
Ok, I guess I have a MALE brain then since I am addicted to a specific game
Right?
I'm a huge gamer! I always have been. I'm part of MLG (www.mlgpro.com) and placed 26th in Halo 2 in Las Vegas. I'm a member of the IDGA (www.igda.org) and have been writing my own games since middle school! Games are my passion and I'm looking to work for a game company once my degree is finished. It's true that the games industry is a male dominated market both in employment and in actual customers but that stereotype is changing as people start realizing games aren't just for kids!
I was just recently at a Milwaukee WIN luncheon and the Madison game studio Big Rooster (http://www.big-rooster.com) said specifically they are looking to hire female employees because... they're entire studio is male! x3 They just don't get that many resumes from women. So if you're out there and in the Wisconsin area there are opportunities. Below are some cool links.
Peace!
Dee
Survey: Two-thirds of online gamers are female : http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061006-7922.html
QuoteAccording to a recent poll by the Entertainment Software Association (ESA), women 18 years and older make up over a quarter (26 percent) of the overall gaming population a bigger piece of the pie than boys aged 6 to 17, who represent 21 percent of all computer and video gamers.Looking specifically at gamers on the Windows platform, women make up 41.9 percent of the total audience, showing that Windows is a favorite platform for women gamers.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2004/Jan04/01-08WomenGamers.mspx
Panel at GDC on "the female gamer" : http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/03/10/news_6120206.html
Quote from: Berliegh on February 15, 2008, 07:00:51 AM
Quote from: debbie.j on February 15, 2008, 06:57:37 AM
Quote from: Berliegh on February 15, 2008, 05:46:21 AM
I hate them......
but some people like them no matter what gender they are.....but it seems to be mostly kids and men that play them...
well i can say this there woman just as well as men and kids that play mmo,s a lot ::) ::) you would be
shocked to see the numbers if the gameing companys was to keep track of it ::) ::)
it's probably split 50 / 50 so the topic is irrelevent..
Actually, the group of people who play the most games are .... wait for it ..... middle aged women. Yes they play online card and board games, or solitaire, and they aren't very likely to wait in line for the latest console but if you go by sheer numbers they are the largest demographic. This is a big reason Nintendo has had alot of focus on non-overt-killing games in the past few years. I wish I could find those links ....
and no topic is irrelevant, this one is just not of interest to you
Dawn
I think Dawn is right. I know all these girls/women who play games - not first person shooter games, but Ma Jong, on line, and on their computers.
I think it's more an issue of upbringing. I'm sure just a very low percentage of mtfs played with barbie dolls or learned to color-combine clothes growing up and this doesn't mean the rest are less women than those who did; it is changing rapidly now, but gaming is very much thought of as a male thing (like the internet was thought of before it found widespread access) even though there's really no basis for it and there are a wide range of games appealing to people who think in all kinds of different ways.
I've gamed for a long time, starting out with table top (meaning no electricity required, pen and paper, good math skills, a bag full of dice and lots of imagination) games like BattleTech, Dungeons and Dragons (along with AD&D) and Ravenloft to the electronic sector with games like Final Fantasy 7, 8 and 9 for the Sony Playstation to my most recent love, MMO's (Massive Multi Player) like World of Warcraft (although I'm reaching the end of my wits for MMO's and would like to get back to table top games). During my time I've meet about the same amount of girls as guys that like to play all formats of games. As already stated, I'm another person that thinks it's a 50/50 mix and that CNN article about games and who's addicted to them just didn't find the right girls for the survey or just didn't have the fundage to do a large scale research project. I've meet guys that hate games just as much as girls that can't stand these types of games.
An article of note, http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2006-12-12/cohn-girlgamers (http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2006-12-12/cohn-girlgamers)
Quote from: soldierjane on February 20, 2008, 09:27:41 AM
I think it's more an issue of upbringing. I'm sure just a very low percentage of mtfs played with barbie dolls or learned to color-combine clothes growing up and this doesn't mean the rest are less women than those who did; it is changing rapidly now, but gaming is very much thought of as a male thing (like the internet was thought of before it found widespread access) even though there's really no basis for it and there are a wide range of games appealing to people who think in all kinds of different ways.
Well, with guy clothes, the incentive to color-combine simply isnt there. Blue, brown, black and white...like that's hard to combine...they all go together or almost, the only combination I think is bad is blue and brown. White and white, black and black, white and black, blue and white, blue and black, brown and black all go together...
Color-combination is also dependant on how much one *wants* to color-combine, if you have absolutely no incentive to do so, it stands to reason that few will do it. If the fashion industry and your peers pressure and challenge you to outdo them everyday, then yeah, you'll develop a sense of creativity over it.
Some have a more 'natural talent' for it than others. And that's not necessarily women.
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Well, as for gaming. Women are considered non-violent by society, the men-as-perpetrator women-as-victim model pushed for by feminist concepts such as patriarchy and domestic violence institutions that they run has made it a societal-wide view. Women's violence is denied or minimized, while men's victim status (when they really are victim) is similarly denied, especially if at the hands of women.
A lot of recent studies concerning Domestic Violence suggest an equal or almost ratio of violence male-female and female-male, and a somewhat higher female-female than male-male (surprisingly enough). Women are the initiators of violence in slightly more than half the cases (like 53% or so).
The notion that women are poor defenseless dolls who only fight in self-defense is a popular, but false, notion of society.
Women can be just as violent, and just as interested in violence as men, including violent games and role-playing games. Where there might be a basis for the difference is that visual-stimuli tends to be a lesser factor for women than for men, especially considering arousal patterns. Videogames being mostly visual, maybe there is a link. Table-top games may be different though.
The reason women may be more violent stems partly from society's view that men should protect women and not hurt them. As such, some women take it literally and hurt men thinking they can get away with it. And they do, a lot of the time, if it's not bad enough (because men don't report it, and when they do, get laughed at for being wimps, I don't see women being called wimps though, not by the DV orgs anyway).
Quote from: Schala on February 20, 2008, 11:50:41 AM
Some have a more 'natural talent' for it than others. And that's not necessarily women.
I think exposure makes more of a difference in the overall population than natural talent. Growing up male, as you pointed out, there's no incentives.
yes well for me at least if a game has female characters i play 'em like the dynasty warriors series i mean it's just SO much fun just killing 100's of peons at a time, but i've been playing since the atari 2600 and i've had and have right now ps1 ps2 x-box (just got that earler in the week really cheap) oh and the dreamcast.
I enjoy video games.
SSBB, Pokemon, and Sonic, as well as MMOGs. :)
I LOVE video games.
My SISTER, older than me, LOVES video games. She has every console there is out there on the market currently.
So, I do, and my sis does...looks like it runs in my family! ;D
Quote from: Veetje on February 13, 2008, 01:49:57 PM
While theres a lot of men in comparison to females playing video games I dont think this necesarilly has to do with having a female brain
I have been playing video games since I was young, still do it on the Pc online too but yet I still literally everyone that meets me says I radiate something feminine; my gestures, voice, interests ( child care- Im actually good at it, fashion, non-sports, wicca, all my friends are female except for my male brother who I play games with
So what makes that me then?
PS: One of my gaming friends online is a girly girl who has a daughter and works at a hospital and says she still plays too much WoW. We both play healer "classes"more though, shes a Priest and Im a Druid...something gaming girls do more often than guys playing percentage wise. Pet classes are very popular with girls too. Lumbering warriors are the least..
If there are exceptions to the rule than Its not entirely true :P
Yeah, my most favored classes (and I brag about this online :embarrassed:) are healer classes. If I can do ANYTHING to help anybody buff/heal wise, I will. It kinda translates to my real life, cause I go out of my way to help others when i could easily sit back and watch and do nothing. But everyone does that. Ha, video games =/= extension of life 8)
Healers are nice, they keep us tanks cozy in our armors while the meanies clang helplessly against our shields. Rock on, clothies ;D
Ive played a lot of video games. Mostly pc over console since last console I owned was a normal xbox years ago. My favorite type are RTS I love Star Craft and am eagerly awaiting SC2 although with Blizzard's track record will be awhile. I also play MMos my preferred classes are melee based dps useually rouges, I play tanks every so often as well. I always play female characters. Recently I have been feeling burnt out on MMOs can't find any to hold my attention for over a month free or pay. I enjoy Rpgs on the cpu and a few console ones such as some of the Final Fantasys. I play an occasional FPS with a friend but not on my own.
On one other note with computer games the PC market has been really lax in last two years with coming out with games seems the console market has all the developers I'm almost tempted to buy a console since nothing new comes out for PC all that fast.
Video games aside to me they pale in comparison to to tabletop RPGs. I love a good campaign of WOD or even D&D. Table top was always a perfect escape for me and a great social environment. Unfortunately the gaming community around here is dead and I haven't been able to play for several years. I'm hopping when I transfer from community college to a large 4 year like NC State ill be able to find a table top community again.
I play on XBL all the time, and usually the more violent games, like Call of Duty4: Modern Warfare or other titles in that series. I don't play for the violence, I play for the online component and the social aspects. I'm a member of a clan, (that'd be a GAMING CLAN), and we get together and just have fun shooting each other full of virtual holes.
Does this make me any less female? I don't think so. We have several females, not counting me, in the group and some of them are the best players in the group.
I think CNN and all these other organizations just want to shame girls from playing video games. It gets them out of their "comfort zones," after all, watch the female anchor's reaction near the end of the program. She automatically went for the "It looks so complex," routine and completely underestimated her intelligence and comprehension levels.
In short, I am of the opinion that these studies are designed to make women feel inferior and stupid. In the case of the talking head, it worked.
Your mileage may vary.
Angela
Gaming material has traditionally been targeted at males.
We're now seeing a change in the kinds of games being produced; games which encompass both genders as a target audience - such as The Sims.
Quote from: Vexing on December 15, 2008, 06:42:39 PM
Gaming material has traditionally been targeted at males.
We're now seeing a change in the kinds of games being produced; games which encompass both genders as a target audience - such as The Sims.
And there are quite a lot of games targeted at girls in particular. Hell, some of them even look fun and cute!
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Quote from: Angela MacLeod on December 15, 2008, 06:17:17 PM
and we get together and just have fun shooting each other full of virtual holes.
Isn't it GREAT? We do the same with Halo on Xbox. Buncha friends, lotsa pizza, and we just go at it for an evening.
My wife is deadly with a sniper rifle, lol...
I have a particular fondness for quickly sneaking up behind people, and... well... you get the picture ;)
~Kate~
Quote from: Kate on December 15, 2008, 07:11:48 PM
Quote from: Angela MacLeod on December 15, 2008, 06:17:17 PM
and we get together and just have fun shooting each other full of virtual holes.
Isn't it GREAT? We do the same with Halo on Xbox. Buncha friends, lotsa pizza, and we just go at it for an evening.
My wife is deadly with a sniper rifle, lol...
I have a particular fondness for quickly sneaking up behind people, and... well... you get the picture ;)
~Kate~
Yeah, people know not to turn their backs to me, as I tend to strike from behind.
Angela
One of the most fun games I played in recent years was an RPG called "Steambot Chronicles" for the PS2, but I could never figure out who it was meant to appeal to. Playing a variety of instruments in a band, and giant robots... kinda odd combination. But it was marvelous fun nontheless.
I have a pretty strong dislike, by which I mean hatred of the highest order, for FPS games... with the sole exception of Metroid Prime. And those squad based shenannigens, too. They just totally leave me cold, bored and completely uninterested. :-\ I really don't see the appeal of strategically waiting for someone to appear and shooting them the second they do. Or telling your buddies to shoot them.
Give me a vast, well written, preferably free roaming RPG and I'm a happy girl. :)
Quote from: Leiandra on December 15, 2008, 09:07:33 PM
I really don't see the appeal of strategically waiting for someone to appear and shooting them the second they do. Or telling your buddies to shoot them.
Ditto.
Try Tribes III, it breaks the FPS genre by having 3D movement (i.e. flying), skiing and weirdly slow weapons.
Playing something like Battlefield 1942 after playing Tribes is like jumping after you've been on a trampoline - you feel so heavy and sluggish.
Oh, and it's nigh impossible to camp in Tribes. YAY!
I picked up a copy of 'The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion' on Friday, and that's a largely first person RPG, which I'm enjoying immensely, and on so many levels (my High Elf Enchantress rocks). There is the option to switch to third person view, but for combat that's largely useless.
I think it must just be the guns that bother me about FPS games. I don't like the 'S', lol. Or the plot (if there even is one), or the repetitiveness, or the multiplayer (what with being antisocial and all), or the spawning of a seemingly new, and very disturbing language associated with such games... 'The Armchair Rambo Litany', as it should be known... shouted at levels only creatures with ultrasonic hearing can fully appreciate, through headsets and mics throughout the world. :-\
I was hooked on Morrowind (ES: III) for over 6 months.
Oblivion, however, just didn't grab me all :(
Quote from: Leiandra on December 15, 2008, 09:07:33 PM
One of the most fun games I played in recent years was an RPG called "Steambot Chronicles" for the PS2, but I could never figure out who it was meant to appeal to. Playing a variety of instruments in a band, and giant robots... kinda odd combination. But it was marvelous fun nontheless.
I have a pretty strong dislike, by which I mean hatred of the highest order, for FPS games... with the sole exception of Metroid Prime. And those squad based shenannigens, too. They just totally leave me cold, bored and completely uninterested. :-\ I really don't see the appeal of strategically waiting for someone to appear and shooting them the second they do. Or telling your buddies to shoot them.
Give me a vast, well written, preferably free roaming RPG and I'm a happy girl. :)
Ah, Samus Aran. What a great video game heroine! :laugh: for the record, the Metroid series is NOT FPS, its FPA/A, and a secondary shooter.
Quote from: Pariah on December 15, 2008, 09:41:53 PM
Ah, Samus Aran. What a great video game heroine! :laugh: for the record, the Metroid series is NOT FPS, its FPA/A, and a secondary shooter.
Yeah, I would agree. Single player, emphasis on the exploration... probably why I liked it. Lol, I didn't even know who Samus Aran was, much less that she was female, until I finished the game. ;D
I quite like video games. Mostly, though, it's just for passing boredom.
The ones I enjoy the most are the RPG games...adventure games and such are close second. I've been a Nintendo Fangirl ever since I got my first N64 back in the day. And I must admit I enjoyed GoldenEye a lot! Probably has to do with the fact that it was the best game for the system, and it was so awesome in multiplayer (All-out grenade matches were very win!), but it's really the only FPS game that's captured me. I've played CS on a few occasions, and I must admit it's fun to play for an hour or so, but then it gets tedious. Same with RTS games...all that micro-management...
The Metroid Prime series were incredibly fun, too. And I would agree that they're more adventure games than they are FPS games. Some of the puzzles in the last game were really mind-blowing.
WoW...has a special place in my heart. It was where I first discovered that I didn't have to act any different from what comes naturally, in order to be seen as a girl. It's a good feeling every time I don't have to actually state my gender, because people just figure it out by the way I write ^-^'
I'm not addicted, no matter what my dad says, though. If I spend a lot of time at the computer, it's simply because I need something to occupy my mind. And these days when WoW crashes my computer a lot, I play 30 minutes, perhaps, and then do something else instead.
I love games where you can really immerse yourself. Any game that can make me stop, look around and just go 'Waaaauw' is a winner. I've lost so many matches in Super Smash Brothers because I simply got distracted by the environment, or because someone died in an incredibly incredible way.
Every waking hour of the day, I have seven different things going on in my head all at once. Video games help distract me from this.
~Moi
well i've been playing halflife II on the xbox (sorry late to the party) but it's at one hand a really great game with really hard puzzles, and then in one hand it's incredribly hard
Quote from: krisalyx on December 16, 2008, 11:27:06 PM
well i've been playing halflife II on the xbox (sorry late to the party) but it's at one hand a really great game with really hard puzzles, and then in one hand it's incredribly hard
Really. I found HL2 to be cool but mostly a run-and-gun deal (not that there's anything wrong with that).
Quote from: Leiandra on December 15, 2008, 09:29:53 PM
I picked up a copy of 'The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion' on Friday, and that's a largely first person RPG, which I'm enjoying immensely, and on so many levels (my High Elf Enchantress rocks). There is the option to switch to third person view, but for combat that's largely useless.
I think it must just be the guns that bother me about FPS games. I don't like the 'S', lol. Or the plot (if there even is one), or the repetitiveness, or the multiplayer (what with being antisocial and all), or the spawning of a seemingly new, and very disturbing language associated with such games... 'The Armchair Rambo Litany', as it should be known... shouted at levels only creatures with ultrasonic hearing can fully appreciate, through headsets and mics throughout the world. :-\
I like FPSs with a story and I've never gotten into the multiplayer and "BOOM HEADSHOT" aspect of it either. In fact, PvP (Player versus Player) in any game bores me.
Oblivion was awesome, SO many things to do. You may want to check out Fallout 3 too which is very similar (made by Bethesda as well) though it being in the future there
are guns :) Same sandbox approach though.
Quote from: soldierjane on December 17, 2008, 08:07:57 AM
Oblivion was awesome
Oblivion, in my opinion, was a pale candle to the glorious roaring bonfire that was Morrowind, it's predecessor. Which is to say, if you like Oblivion then the other is more of the same with worse graphics and a more "real" feel to it, I think.
As for FPS's with a story, Unreal II wasn't TOO bad although it never fails to muss up my ... hrm, whatever that window is that ctrl+alt+del brings up, annoyingly. Stupid copy protection junk I think. Anyway, Unreal had a bit of a story to it and a very neat game indeed. ... UT3 tries to put a story to the single player but, meh. It's more "interactive movie" really. Quake2 does the same really. One is along for the ride rather than carving a path though the world. Quake2 gets bonus points for a seriously awesome ship landing sequence.
Diablo and Diablo II had a very nice setting, not so much "story" for either although there is with Diablo II well enough. ...
*shrug* Games are a passion of mine, what can I say? ;)
Quote from: Kimberly on December 17, 2008, 10:01:02 AM
Quote from: soldierjane on December 17, 2008, 08:07:57 AM
Oblivion was awesome
Oblivion, in my opinion, was a pale candle to the glorious roaring bonfire that was Morrowind, it's predecessor. Which is to say, if you like Oblivion then the other is more of the same with worse graphics and a more "real" feel to it, I think.
I never played Morrowind, but I hear it was very good. Then again, if it has that "enemies-level-up-with-you" system like Oblivion... yech.
Anyone do GTA4?
-Im a fiend at that game 8)
Or any of the Need for Speed series?
Quote from: soldierjane on December 17, 2008, 11:38:38 AM
I never played Morrowind, but I hear it was very good. Then again, if it has that "enemies-level-up-with-you" system like Oblivion... yech.
It didn't, which is one of the points that make it better in my estimation. That and there are actual treasures to be found.
For oblivion I find I end up preferring to just set my level to something (typically 30) and lock it and then play; Things tend to be more "reasonable" that way to me anyway. It's a hack of a solution I admit, and probably better is one of the mods that removes the auto leveling of stuff.
As an interesting note, I never did see the point nor charm of the GTA games, in fact I very much dislike what I know of them. Need for Speed however I quite like although my all time favorite was Test Drive ... 2 I think. The only "driving game" where I could .. go anywhere, twas fun an a true "test drive". The later Test Drive games were.. garbage racing game attempts. NFS2 was my favorite so far but I've not had a chance to play with anything new for a while.
Quote from: soldierjane on December 17, 2008, 11:38:38 AM
I never played Morrowind, but I hear it was very good. Then again, if it has that "enemies-level-up-with-you" system like Oblivion... yech.
We refer to those as 'ninja monkeys'.
In the Morrowind, most enemies were statically placed when looked at in the game editor and had fixed stats.
However, some enemies in the game editor were black monkey looking icons (hence 'ninja monkeys'). These were leveled creatures that were supposed to challenge you no matter what level you were.
Fortunately ninja monkeys were not that common.
Unlike Oblivion, where EVERYTHING in a dungeon is a ninja monkey...
Oblivion - the game where common bandits wind up carrying a king's ransom in Daedric weaponry.
Quote from: Kaitlyn on December 17, 2008, 02:22:25 PM
Oblivion - the game where common bandits wind up carrying a king's ransom in Daedric weaponry.
And your horse can beat you up. :-\
Quote from: Vexing on December 17, 2008, 02:25:01 PM
Quote from: Kaitlyn on December 17, 2008, 02:22:25 PM
Oblivion - the game where common bandits wind up carrying a king's ransom in Daedric weaponry.
And your horse can beat you up. :-\
"Shadowmere, whyyyyyyy..."
Quote from: soldierjane on December 17, 2008, 08:07:57 AM
Oblivion was awesome, SO many things to do. You may want to check out Fallout 3 too which is very similar (made by Bethesda as well) though it being in the future there are guns :) Same sandbox approach though.
It's not bad, not bad at all.
I did wonder why I ended up getting a grand total of about $4.30 in gold, lol. I figured the game was rather miserly.
Then I decided to do a concentrated burst of levelling up by raising skills... and now, at level 20, it's flowing in, and some pretty nice weponry, too. I'm not sure about the whole adaptive enemies thing, I guess it's better in some ways... kinda weird, though.
What I really dislike is the fact that you have to improve your skills to gain levels. There's an inherent cap on it, I assume, since your skills don't go above 100 (the two I have at that level so far certainly don't), and if you start off with most of them at 30-40, you can't grow as much as if they start at 25. And it takes quite a bit of planning to improve your parameters. I don't like that at all. Exp has a lot going for it, lol.
But yeah, there is an awful lot to do. I haven't even scratched the surface.
Coming from a Hardcore Gamer's mouth (Mine)
Since age 3 I have played Video Games, from Mario to Zelda, from Final Fantasy to Halo, ect. I play only the best and classics. Gaming really has nothing to do with being male or female it's just what you like doing.
All I know is, my girlfriend is the femmest lady I've ever known... on psych tests, she comes out even more feminine than me, which is rare... and she has a huge collection of computer games out the wazoo. She has many shelves full of them, and more spilling out of boxes on the floor; she's run out of space to keep them in. She's tried to interest me in some of them. She favors games that involve careful, complex thinking and stories over shooting action games. When I expressed to her my distaste for shooter games, she introduced me to Syberia, which features a female protagonist solving an elegant, intricate mystery with brains and intuition, and no violence at all.
The only computer game I've ever gone for is Civilization. I'm not even sure if it counts as a "video" game because it doesn't use a console or anything, just a regular computer. I have no idea what any of the references above me in this thread are talking about.
But I liked the move eXistenZ -- which was about a female game designer.
Since I lived in genetic and chemical LA LA LAND most of my young life, my entertainment was myself. i.e. Drawing pictures, painting, singing, humming, dancing around in one of my sisters white TUTU's. Brushing, combing, or braiding my sisters hair was another thing I loved to do. . I helped my mother a lot in the kitchen, cooking and baking when I could.
In my home, TV was not a full time entertainment venue. Music was usually filling the air...mostly classical, some contemporary. Never Rock and Roll. My sisters all took dancing lessons, and music lessons. My brothers fooled around with drums and guitars.
One of my greatest pleasures as a younger person, was dancing with my sisters, or my mom. It helped me greatly, to become more steady and balanced.
I still love to dance...
When the video game phenomenon hit the market enforce, the fascination for them was over my head. I simply could not understand it.
To this day, when I see the teen boys in the malls at the video games places, I stop and watch for about 20 seconds. All that movement, noise, and crazy excitement... It is all beyond my understanding. I have nieces and nephews who are into them...
My family must have been a bunch of oddballs. No one was interested in them.
Never quite got them either. When pong came out I just thought it was a more annoying version of pinball which was there for the people who couldn't shoot pool. Now, I can shoot pool all day, or play cards, but I like real stuff, not a devised and programed experience.
i have always liked a good video game but thats me. But i have started to go towards Role playing more the past few years.
Quote from: Emme on December 19, 2008, 05:16:59 PM
I love playing RPGs, but I jsut can't deal with online RPG servers, like for WoW. The only fun thing is when you see a gold spammer and you counter with "Well Met, Peddler of Gold! Mayest I violate thine anus with mine habanero pepper?" That's actually pretty fun.
More fun:
When someone is begging for gold, open trade window and put in say, 800g.
Then walk away from your computer without hitting 'accept' and have a shower, have a smoke, make a coffee, go to the toilet, make a snack.
Bet they'll still be there waiting for you to hit accept when you come back 20min later. ;D
Quote from: Emme on December 19, 2008, 05:16:59 PM
I love playing RPGs, but I jsut can't deal with online RPG servers, like for WoW. The only fun thing is when you see a gold spammer and you counter with "Well Met, Peddler of Gold! Mayest I violate thine anus with mine habanero pepper?" That's actually pretty fun.
Right-click Report FTW ;D
I am a hard core gamer and game design is my major in college. To say I'm not a woman for it is pretty much a slap in the face to me and all my (cis)female gamer counterparts, pretty much.
im am female and there is no denying that, and i play video games. I dont get addicted mind you, i just play em when im in the mood, play violin here and there, surf the net, i vary it or it gets boring. But to generalize that women like games less or get addicted to them less, that is a gross miscalculation. There are fewer women gamers because that is what society depicts, men play video games, women do fashion, and there are too many girls trying to fit into social norms. Ive met many women who play warrior types, healers, a whole slew of different types, we are all different, and to make generalizations like this is kind of silly, or even to study it just seems silly and pointless. We are all different and we all do different things, and our gender these days usually has little to do with it, because the gender lines are getting closer together every year.
I am also a Comp Sci major with the intention to go into game design, i have fun with them, I play role playing games, strategy games (whoever said they havent found any good strategy games is sheltered, i can name a ton off the top of my head, Civilization II test of time, Age of Empires 2, Warhammer 40k Dawn of war (and its accompanying expansions), Starcraft (best ever, especially after the brood war expansion),Age of Empires (cheesey but awesome), Age of Mythology, Kingdoms) the list goes on. I do play the occasional first person shooter, but they are rarely fun in solo mode and all the cheaters online, and the gamer kids who just badmouth everyone are annoying so i avoid them usually, they are just not fun that often except with close friends.
With the multi-million pounds/dollars spent on games budgets nowdays, and the processing power/graphical capability of the platforms, a lot of games are becoming more like interactive movies, with bigger emphasis placed on the emotional attachment and ethical choices of a character than just who has the biggest sword/gun. Mass Effect and Fallout 3 are games I've played recently that are both examples of this. It's the moral/ethical choices you make and how that effects the world the character inhabits which is given a higher standing than purely how tough you are and how many foes you dispatch.
Uh sorry but "games are for kids or guys" both are just stereotypes and bad old ones.
Im a girl gamer and actually good. I love RPGs due to the story (anyone remember Secret of Mana? I cried on the Tree scene T_T) also strategy (Starcraft ftw) And honestly I dont see whats wrong with liking games.
I suck at fighting games but meh. And my boyfriend likes that we share one hobby.
Quote from: Leiandra on January 13, 2009, 12:01:05 PM
With the multi-million pounds/dollars spent on games budgets nowdays, and the processing power/graphical capability of the platforms, a lot of games are becoming more like interactive movies, with bigger emphasis placed on the emotional attachment and ethical choices of a character than just who has the biggest sword/gun. Mass Effect and Fallout 3 are games I've played recently that are both examples of this. It's the moral/ethical choices you make and how that effects the world the character inhabits which is given a higher standing than purely how tough you are and how many foes you dispatch.
thank you for a perfect example, as they get more immersive, its not just violence and all that
in fact i saw a youtube vid from some news show, and they were talking about the mass effect Sex Scene, and all the reporters are like "how is this effecting our kids, they are treating women like objects, and being violent." They say all this by seeing one vid, and making a generalization without knowing anything, they dont actually do research, they think "sex=wrong for kids" and they wonder why kids have no idea how to treat women, or are scared of sex, why all these nerds exsist that are scared of it, its not the video games fault, its the parents fault for teaching their kids to be idiots just like them, and telling them that sex/masterbation/imagination are wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU)
no surprise its fox who are acting like this though, so i guess i cant exactly be pissed, they are always like this with their conservative crap
frag dolls (http://www.fragdolls.com/) (mentioned before in previous post i think).
though, i think this is as valid as the CNN post. but IMO, liking games does not have anything to do with gender.
wanna go even more crazy? how about ggirls liking D&D ;)
then of course, about 80% of the game usually consists of several, if not, one scantly-clad-bouncing-busty-thing-long-legs-doe-eyed-perminent-makeup female character. soo.. hmm..
" no really, mom, joan of arc wore bikini armor to battle... "
Quote from: Rachel on January 13, 2009, 12:15:35 PM
Quote from: Leiandra on January 13, 2009, 12:01:05 PM
With the multi-million pounds/dollars spent on games budgets nowdays, and the processing power/graphical capability of the platforms, a lot of games are becoming more like interactive movies, with bigger emphasis placed on the emotional attachment and ethical choices of a character than just who has the biggest sword/gun. Mass Effect and Fallout 3 are games I've played recently that are both examples of this. It's the moral/ethical choices you make and how that effects the world the character inhabits which is given a higher standing than purely how tough you are and how many foes you dispatch.
thank you for a perfect example, as they get more immersive, its not just violence and all that
in fact i saw a youtube vid from some news show, and they were talking about the mass effect Sex Scene, and all the reporters are like "how is this effecting our kids, they are treating women like objects, and being violent." They say all this by seeing one vid, and making a generalization without knowing anything, they dont actually do research, they think "sex=wrong for kids" and they wonder why kids have no idea how to treat women, or are scared of sex, why all these nerds exsist that are scared of it, its not the video games fault, its the parents fault for teaching their kids to be idiots just like them, and telling them that sex/masterbation/imagination are wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU)
no surprise its fox who are acting like this though, so i guess i cant exactly be pissed, they are always like this with their conservative crap
Actually, that scene took me totally by surprise. It was pretty damn raunchy, particularly if you're playing as a female Commander Shepard and choose to develop a romantic attachment with the Asari crewmember (also female). Certainly it went further than any game has ever gone before.
I'd post it here, but it's probably against the rules. Needless to say I almost choked on my coffee, lol. It's not done distastefully, though. There is a lot of... build up and plot attached to it.
Oh, and maybe it was the European version I was playing, but there wasn't "full digital character nudity". Not far off, granted, but like I said, it wasn't done distastefully. In my opinion anyway.
Quote from: Leiandra on January 13, 2009, 02:04:23 PM
Quote from: Rachel on January 13, 2009, 12:15:35 PM
Quote from: Leiandra on January 13, 2009, 12:01:05 PM
With the multi-million pounds/dollars spent on games budgets nowdays, and the processing power/graphical capability of the platforms, a lot of games are becoming more like interactive movies, with bigger emphasis placed on the emotional attachment and ethical choices of a character than just who has the biggest sword/gun. Mass Effect and Fallout 3 are games I've played recently that are both examples of this. It's the moral/ethical choices you make and how that effects the world the character inhabits which is given a higher standing than purely how tough you are and how many foes you dispatch.
thank you for a perfect example, as they get more immersive, its not just violence and all that
in fact i saw a youtube vid from some news show, and they were talking about the mass effect Sex Scene, and all the reporters are like "how is this effecting our kids, they are treating women like objects, and being violent." They say all this by seeing one vid, and making a generalization without knowing anything, they dont actually do research, they think "sex=wrong for kids" and they wonder why kids have no idea how to treat women, or are scared of sex, why all these nerds exsist that are scared of it, its not the video games fault, its the parents fault for teaching their kids to be idiots just like them, and telling them that sex/masterbation/imagination are wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU)
no surprise its fox who are acting like this though, so i guess i cant exactly be pissed, they are always like this with their conservative crap
Actually, that scene took me totally by surprise. It was pretty damn raunchy, particularly if you're playing as a female Commander Shepard and choose to develop a romantic attachment with the Asari crewmember (also female). Certainly it went further than any game has ever gone before.
I'd post it here, but it's probably against the rules. Needless to say I almost choked on my coffee, lol. It's not done distastefully, though. There is a lot of... build up and plot attached to it.
Oh, and maybe it was the European version I was playing, but there wasn't "full digital character nudity". Not far off, granted, but like I said, it wasn't done distastefully. In my opinion anyway.
i saw it too, but i found it was no more raunchy than any movie out today, it was very tasteful and showed the relationship and connection of the characters, nothing in that was treating her like an object. In fact, that showed more caring and respect for the other person than most relationships between these so called "normal" people. In fact most R rated films are more raunchy than that by far, and even 17 year olds can watch those, and that one woman said Mass Effect deserves a Adult Only rating, its just rediculous. I understand they are looking out for their children, and they want their children to be raised right, but sheltering a child is no way to do it. If you shelter someone all their life, they will just be slapped in the face when real life gives them a hello. You can teach what is right and wrong, but to shelter is just moronic, and is counterproductive.
I'm a girl who likes video/computer games, and I like a variety of them. I'll admit that I don't really like shooters, but that's mostly because I am terrible at them. My favorite games are mmorpgs (massive-multiplayer-online-role-playing-games). Right now my favorite is a game called Guild Wars, but the reason that I enjoy playing this kind of game is interesting.
In online games of this sort, you can choose to play as a boy or a girl. I always play as a girl, and I interact with other players as female. I chat with other girls about life, boys, relationships, etc. Sometimes I give boys advice about how to be a better gentleman. Sometimes I just like to sit by the bon fire and dream of things gone by. For me the game becomes a place where I can really feel like I am excepted as a girl without the chance of being confronted, assaulted, or abused in any way. I often play as a warrior-type/ranger, and I like to imagine that I am presenting a strong female role model who is powerful enough to save the day, just as well as any man can.
Video games ... ??? ...
Pleeese ... get a life !!!
laura x
well i could get a life, but in my age group that involves going out, partying, drinking, and having sex with anything that walks.
I do have a life though, I'm a student, I play violin and go to recitals and concerto's hosted by the UNI school of music, i have hobbies and a real job, good friends.
Playing video games in no way means you don't have a life, it just means that you have fun doing certain things on a console/PC. It is just another hobby for me at least, not everyone who plays video games are addicted junkies that have no life.
Are you saying your life is more full because you do activities that are in some way better because they aren't video games. I do hope your being sarcastic as a joke, if you are thats very funny -nods- love the joke, but if not its just insulting and rude.
But on to more pleasant discussions:
When you have the choice, I always play as female as well, because I find myself incapable of roleplaying a male, i am simply not one and don't understand the thought processes of one. It also gives me a means to present as myself without prejudice of the people around me and thinking im male just because I was born so. Its nice to have people treat me like what I am, though that phase might go away a bit once im done transitioning because i would not need that feeling anymore, but who knows.
Quote from: Laura Eva B on January 15, 2009, 06:50:25 PM
Video games ... ??? ...
Pleeese ... get a life !!!
laura x
boo go back to yer knitting, grandma :P
Quote from: Laura Eva B on January 15, 2009, 06:50:25 PM
Video games ... ??? ...
Pleeese ... get a life !!!
laura x
If you enjoy the leisurely activity of the occasional video game you're just in denial about being a shut in who has no friends! GET A LIFE GAMERS! GET A LIFE!
Quote from: soldierjane on January 16, 2009, 08:32:29 PM
Quote from: Laura Eva B on January 15, 2009, 06:50:25 PM
Video games ... ??? ...
Pleeese ... get a life !!!
laura x
boo go back to yer knitting, grandma :P
Sometimes I knit while playing a game ^_^
But seriously Laura.. going online and posting in a forum, made of oppressed minorities, just to tell them that you think a harmless choice which they have made is distasteful? ??? Get A Life.
EDIT: My role model ^_^ jk http://misterhook.tripod.com/wallpapers/jora2.jpg (http://misterhook.tripod.com/wallpapers/jora2.jpg)
I've basically been playing video games for as long as I can remember. I dominated Mega Man X and Donkey Kong Country in my young super nintendo days. I don't think this is remotely true. Last year Metal Gear Solid 4 had about 8 of its 18 hours of content were cinematic videos telling an amazing plot, and that's just one example. I think anybody who loves movies has potential to love video games, and it is simply the bad or nerdy image cast upon it that stops anybody, primarily girls, from getting involved in gaming. Also, for the record, I think that with this generation of consoles video games have now excelled movies and TV in their potential to tell a truly great story.
i play games quite a bit. Both computer and Xbox. Also one of the best things is getting together with friends, playing rock band, and hanging out. Food, drink and games. Mrs lizard also is a game fiend, tho more RPGs and such than FPS. Shes like one of the top players in our warcraft guild. She tends to get a bit more addicted than i do.
Also to say gamers need to get a life... well its just another form of entertainment. Sure people take it to the extremes where its detrimental to other areas of your life but in the end, its just like any other form of entertainment.