Hello! My name is Pamela, but I'd like to go by Patrick. I am a young FtM. I live in New York City, and am going through my idea of a transition that is suitable for my age, and situations in school, because that's where I am 80% of the school year. This entails going by Patrick at school and when meeting other people, getting my hair cut, wearing only men's/boy's clothes, and all of that good stuff.
And it's true, I am completely and utterly scared of all of the members of this site. Why? Because all of you seem like such a family. I've been lurking around for a couple of hours, and I just find it amazing that you're all so close knit. I hope to be a part of that sometime soon!
Hmm. What else? I am mostly out at my school, which means that while people may acknowledge that I'm trans, they won't use the correct pronouns or the correct name. At home, my mother knows, but isn't completely understanding or accepting. My father seems to be more accepting, though I wouldn't really know because I'm too scared to discuss my gender identity with him. My brother knows as well, but we don't talk about it.
By sharing this, I believe that it takes me one small step closer to getting support from other people in the GLBT community. Thanks SO much for reading this. It means a whole lot to me. (And, I apologize for any typos that may be in my post.)
Like all real families, we're a little bit dysfunctional. Except those of us from California, we're not from a dysfunctional family, we're products of a dysfunctional state.
Welcome, Patrick. You gotta be one of the youngest guys I've seen here. Hopefully everyone will come around about your identity. How long have you been 'out'?
Hi there Patrick, most of us don't bite so don't be scared! The pronoun thing is hurtful, isn't it :( Kudoes to you for such a level of self awareness at such a young age. May I ask if you've seen a gender therapist?
Quote from: northy on July 15, 2009, 10:57:31 PM
Welcome, Patrick. You gotta be one of the youngest guys I've seen here. Hopefully everyone will come around about your identity. How long have you been 'out'?
Ah, it's been about a year and a half now. The people in my school haven't been particularly... "exposed" to trans or even gay people. I am THE first openly gay, openly trans kid in the history of my school.
Quote from: tekla on July 15, 2009, 10:54:48 PM
Except those of us from California, we're not from a dysfunctional family, we're products of a dysfunctional state.
Well, it's not exactly a misfortune to live in California if you are able to get past their decisions and law making, although I wouldn't be a able to. :-\
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Quote from: Becca on July 15, 2009, 11:05:07 PM
Hi there Patrick, most of us don't bite so don't be scared! The pronoun thing is hurtful, isn't it :( Kudoes to you for such a level of self awareness at such a young age. May I ask if you've seen a gender therapist?
Thank you! =D
I have been to both a regular therapist and a gender therapist and went New York Presbyterian and was "partially diagnosed" with GID. They couldn't really say because I have a non-stereotypical FtM childhood.
Oh Patrick,
Come here my darling.... {{{ HUGS }}}. Dearest, you have nothing to fear now hon. Youare now very safe!! We are all here to support one another and to help one another, and most of all... protect one another!!! Patrick, please know that you are welcome at Susan's. Do not be afraid Patrick, you will not be harmed in any way!!!
HUGS and Love
Brenda
Hi Patrick, :icon_wave:
Welcome to our little family. Over 2700 strong. That would be one heck of a family reunion.
Feel free to post your successes/failures, Hopes/dreams. Ask questions and seek answers. Give and receive advice.
But remember we are family here,
your family now. And it is always nice to have another brother. :icon_hug:
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Janet
Watch out for those regular therapists. Some of them have a hard time saying "I don't know" and start just pulling crap out of their ears based on their own biases and not on science. I've seen a few horror stories on these boards about such things, and it's just appalling to me when the helping professions do such harm.
It sounds like you haven't really been exposed to much of the lgbt community. I can't speak for the lgb part of it, but as far as the t goes, please feel free to talk to us. We aren't just being polite, we really do want want to hear it. While all our experiences might be somewhat similar, they are each unique as well, and we take strength from each other. It feels good to know you aren't alone...and you my dear, are most certainly not alone.
Quote from: Becca on July 15, 2009, 11:29:20 PM
Watch out for those regular therapists. Some of them have a hard time saying "I don't know" and start just pulling crap out of their ears based on their own biases and not on science. I've seen a few horror stories on these boards about such things, and it's just appalling to me when the helping professions do such harm.
You mentioned that you haven't really been exposed to much of the lgbt community. I can't speak for the lgb part of it, but as far as the t goes, please feel free to talk to us. We aren't just being polite, we really do want want to hear it. While all our experiences might be somewhat similar, they are each unique as well, and we take strength from each other. It feels good to know you aren't alone...and you my dear, are most certainly not alone.
Actually, what's really great is that my therapist is FtM too! He knows exactly where I'm coming from. My last therapist was like that, though. She just formulated her questions by using textbooks and criticism.
I'm so glad to hear that. That kind of support is what I've looking for for the past couple years. I feel so loved! Although, I'm concerned that I'll become one of those people that talks about
everything,
everywhere.
Welcome, Patrick.
Family, ummm, maybe. Or maybe just the long-term involvement in reading each other again and again. :)
As far as therapists are concerned. Just like medical doctors quality, experience, openness to clients and whether one is looking to make a diagnosis or is patiently willing to just hear the client out (diagnosis within the first 3-4 sessions is required for insurance reimbursement, but "adjustment disorder, nos" can get that done pretty easily and it's a rather non-labeled kinda diagnosis that simply means the client is struggling to cope with something) will vary widely.
Just keep posting and soon you'll be a regular and everyone will know your name. :)
O, the role of bratty kid has already been locked up a few times, but you really don't seem to be in the running for that. :)
Nice to have you posting.
Welcome and have no fear Patrick,
Virginia only bites on Thurs. :laugh: But seriously, there are many supportive guys and gals that will help you along your journey
Hey Patrick, welcome to the site.
Quote from: Patrick on July 15, 2009, 11:35:36 PM
Although, I'm concerned that I'll become one of those people that talks about everything, everywhere.
Don't worry about talking too much, posting is what keeps this place alive.
And I don't bite either (at least, not through a computer screen). >:-) ;)
Welcome.
As others have already said, we don't bite. Much ;) A few nibbles here and there, but that's just the internet for ya :laugh:.
You've got guts to be openly out at school at such a young age. Kudos! Too many young people buy into the whole "hive mind" mentality.
The trouble with coming out to family at such a young age is that a lot of the time they hang onto the notion that it's just a passing phase. There's not much you can do (that I can think of) about it other than just keep being yourself.
Hopefully they'll come around eventually. You know, you could always just stop responding to your birth name :laugh: It's a bit petty I know, but it's something to keep in mind for a last resort (after you've sat people down and told them in no uncertain terms how you'd like to be addressed, of course).
I was born in New York Presbyterian! :D Currently reside in north NJ. ;) Good to have a local here. Welcome! Feel free to talk talk talk talk talk, it's what I do.
Hopefully you already feel welcome. I know I didn't post for months... then I started posting (with much hesitation) and now it's great. :D This place is immensely helpful.
People said you were the youngest member they've seen, but I think the age got edited out so I'll just have to wonder!
Quote from: Teknoir on July 16, 2009, 12:32:23 AM
You know, you could always just stop responding to your birth name
I know this works with dogs. I started calling my dog "fatty" instead of her given name, and now she answers to it. Maybe it will work in reverse on humans.
Quote from: Becca on July 16, 2009, 12:56:10 AM
I know this works with dogs. I started calling my dog "fatty" instead of her given name, and now she answers to it. Maybe it will work in reverse on humans.
I suddenly feel the need to start carrying around bags of candy and a bell.... :laugh:
My dog tends to answer to "Silly" rather than his name :laugh:
Patrick,
I'm new too and i think they like you alot more because I havn't gotten any replies to my "Hey I'm Briana" post. lol And I came out in 8th grade & I'm telling you it's really hard but when crap hits the fan there will always be SOMEONE you can turn to.
xoxo
modified to exchange a more accepted word for one that violates the TOS --- Nichole
Quote from: BrianaLynne on July 16, 2009, 01:25:32 AM
Patrick,
I'm new too and i think they like you alot more because I havn't gotten any replies to my "Hey I'm Briana" post. lol And I came out in 8th grade & I'm telling you it's really hard but when crap hits the fan there will always be SOMEONE you can turn to.
xoxo
Hi Briana, sorry if your post was overlooked. that doesn't happen too often, but it does happen. Mainly do to timing. Where did you post it?
Modified quoted material to conform with moderation above --- Nichole
Hey there's nothing wrong with being a lurker ;D
Hi Patrick fro me as well.
Sorry Briana I'll go back and find you to say hello from down under.
I can't even spell dysfunctional, I can't spel :laugh:
Cindy
Quote from: Patrick on July 15, 2009, 11:05:25 PM
I have been to both a regular therapist and a gender therapist and went New York Presbyterian and was "partially diagnosed" with GID. They couldn't really say because I have a non-stereotypical FtM childhood.
There's a stereotypical FTM childhood? Why do my hackles rise when "experts" say something like that?
And welcome from me too, Patrick. You've come to the right place. :)
Quote from: minniemouse on July 16, 2009, 05:20:55 AM
There's a stereotypical FTM childhood? Why do my hackles rise when "experts" say something like that?
Yeah, I was puzzled a bit by that as well. Is that where you don't play football and beat the GB (genetic boys) at it?
Quote from: minniemouse on July 16, 2009, 05:20:55 AM
There's a stereotypical FTM childhood? Why do my hackles rise when "experts" say something like that?
And welcome from me too, Patrick. You've come to the right place. :)
Stereotypes exist everywhere, so yes there would be one.
Quote from: Patrick on July 15, 2009, 10:51:18 PM
And it's true, I am completely and utterly scared of all of the members of this site. Why? Because all of you seem like such a family. I've been lurking around for a couple of hours, and I just find it amazing that you're all so close knit. I hope to be a part of that sometime soon!
I'm scared too. Really, I am.
Hi Patrick, nice to meet you and welcome! I've only been here for a few days, so I understand your trepidation in breaking into an already tightly-knit group, but I can assure you that these guys are all really awesome and friendly (as you've no doubt seen from the welcomes in this post).
Not only has everyone here been great about answering my questions and even just letting me vent, but this place is a great resource for reading about everyone's transition, seeing the challenges and successes they've had, and relating to the experience through the eyes of those who have already been where I am now.
On top of all of that, this is overall just a great bunch of interesting, funny, and sincere dudes who are fun to "hang out with" in this way. :)
Wow! There's a lot of posts now! Thank you SO much for all of your feedback, welcomes and everything else in between. It's very much appreciated.
Yes, to most doctors, the stereotypical FtM childhood is insisting you are a boy at a very young age, only liking stereotypical boy play things, choosing a male name when you're very young, playing sports, being active... and blah blah blah.
In my defense, I was like that only half of the time. I also liked to read and write and draw, play music and dance; which are all stereotypically girl's things. I did make the playing with dolls situation two sided because I would play with barbie dolls, but only the ken dolls. They didn't think it was clear enough, an henceforth they said I may even be gender queer or gender fluid. (As a trial, they said I should try living as a butch lesbian, or that I should just try living as a girl. :icon_hahano: Idiots. Do they THINK I haven't tried that? I first came out as butch lesbian to test the waters in school... Didn't go so well.)
I've tried not responding to my given name, but it's so hard! I've been trained to do that my entire life. D=
And yeh, my age did get edited out for my safety. I am apparently one of the youngest!
the stereotypical FtM childhood is insisting you are a boy at a very young age, only liking stereotypical boy play things
I don't know, seems like a lot of people come to this later in life, while others seemed to always know. And if you're around here long enough (and in real life too) you'll find most of the stereotypes are just that. People come in all kinds of ways, just because you like mechanics and are are girl you're not necessarily FtM or Butch, perhaps you're just mechanically gifted.
Welcome man! hope we can all help you a little bit
Quote from: tekla on July 16, 2009, 11:33:55 AM
the stereotypical FtM childhood is insisting you are a boy at a very young age, only liking stereotypical boy play things
I don't know, seems like a lot of people come to this later in life, while others seemed to always know. And if you're around here long enough (and in real life too) you'll find most of the stereotypes are just that. People come in all kinds of ways, just because you like mechanics and are are girl you're not necessarily FtM or Butch, perhaps you're just mechanically gifted.
Tekla, I liked the way you put that. It is very true. Stereotypes and lables are crazy ;D
on the odd occasion, contrary to all logic, it does turn out that I'm right.
Quote from: Patrick on July 16, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Yes, to most doctors, the stereotypical FtM childhood is insisting you are a boy at a very young age, only liking stereotypical boy play things, choosing a male name when you're very young, playing sports, being active... and blah blah blah.
In my defense, I was like that only half of the time. I also liked to read and write and draw, play music and dance; which are all stereotypically girl's things. I did make the playing with dolls situation two sided because I would play with barbie dolls, but only the ken dolls. They didn't think it was clear enough, an henceforth they said I may even be gender queer or gender fluid. (As a trial, they said I should try living as a butch lesbian, or that I should just try living as a girl. :icon_hahano: Idiots. Do they THINK I haven't tried that? I first came out as butch lesbian to test the waters in school... Didn't go so well.)
I've tried not responding to my given name, but it's so hard! I've been trained to do that my entire life. D=
And yeh, my age did get edited out for my safety. I am apparently one of the youngest!
I did mostly boy things... but I totally took dance (but wanted the boy's uniform) and played with Barbie's until I was in the SIXTH grade. So yeah. Typical smypical. Now I've got no boobs and testosterone in my veins. However, you could be gender fluid or something if you're open to that. If you're a boy, though, then go for it when you can. I used to "cross dress" (which is ironically not cross dressing anymore) and try to be perceived as a boy and I didn't catch on for 8 more years! So you're very well enlightened that you've gotten as far as you have.
You say your therapist is an FtM? Is he the one that is caught up in this "typical FtM childhood" crap? Because everyone responds to pressure from their parents, circumstances, and religion differently when they are growing up. It explained a lot of what I did, even though I totally thought it would've been fine to have been born a boy (which I stopped saying to people in the 3rd grade when I realized people didn't agree and thought it was weird. I definitely didn't have a boy's name picked out when I was little...
Sorry if I'm a little hyped up on post-op painkillers.
Are you in a position to consider hormone blockers? I suppose if I can't ask that a moderator will kindly take it down.
Welcome to Susan's.
As a side-note, I am still uncomfortable with posting much here.
Be it as it may, I am more on the outskirts and really not tight-knit, unfortunately.
But I'm sure you will do just fine. There is a wealth of information here, as well as advice.
There's a difference between tight-knit and exclusionist. We don't have hardcore elitism or exclusionism here.
Something I learnt is that you cannot judge your own inclusion in an online community. You can think you're on the outskirts and other people will think you're one of the regulars. As everyone comes and goes as they please without invitation or real time greeting, there is no viable metric on which to weigh social inclusion (whereas in real life you can tell when you're not part of the social group).
So chillax. I don't think you guys have anything to worry about :).
Glad to meet you Patrick. This maybe the most safe place on the net. Post a pic soon. I like cute boys. P.S. The sky is not falling. It's bird poop and you can't out run it. El cielo esta cayendo?
Quote from: Kayden on July 17, 2009, 01:20:55 AM
However, you could be gender fluid or something if you're open to that. If you're a boy, though, then go for it when you can.
Hmm. Well, I firmly believe that I am a boy, because I could never see myself in the role of a mother, for example, and I also just can't associate myself with females. I definitely thought about this possibility, though.
Quote from: Kayden on July 17, 2009, 01:20:55 AM
You say your therapist is an FtM? Is he the one that is caught up in this "typical FtM childhood" crap? Because everyone responds to pressure from their parents, circumstances, and religion differently when they are growing up. It explained a lot of what I did, even though I totally thought it would've been fine to have been born a boy (which I stopped saying to people in the 3rd grade when I realized people didn't agree and thought it was weird. I definitely didn't have a boy's name picked out when I was little...
Sorry if I'm a little hyped up on post-op painkillers.
Are you in a position to consider hormone blockers? I suppose if I can't ask that a moderator will kindly take it down.
Nah, he's genuine. He doesn't really push me into believing anything, because he didn't come from a completely typical FtM background.
I also didn't have a name picked out, and I never ever told anyone about what I thought. Hey, no one else was saying it, so why should I, right?! (If I had mentioned something, my life would probably be different right now... D=)
Hormone blockers? Wouldn't work. I've asked about getting whatever I could, whether it was T or hormone blockers. I started puberty when I was 9, so it's too late for blockers, but I'm too young for T.
Quote from: Adrian on July 17, 2009, 05:11:35 AM
There is a wealth of information here, as well as advice.
I've noticed! It's so great here. I can find so much stuff that I can relate to. I'm so glad I joined!
Quote from: Teknoir on July 17, 2009, 08:10:11 AM
There's a difference between tight-knit and exclusionist. We don't have hardcore elitism or exclusionism here.
Something I learnt is that you cannot judge your own inclusion in an online community. You can think you're on the outskirts and other people will think you're one of the regulars. As everyone comes and goes as they please without invitation or real time greeting, there is no viable metric on which to weigh social inclusion (whereas in real life you can tell when you're not part of the social group).
So chillax. I don't think you guys have anything to worry about :).
Yeah, I'm usually bad at measuring where I stand in online communities. I'm trying to not even think about my inclusion at Susan's. I mean, I'm at least glad that I'm able to contribute a little. ^-^
Quote from: Genevieve Swann on July 17, 2009, 10:34:42 AM
Glad to meet you Patrick. This maybe the most safe place on the net. Post a pic soon. I like cute boys. P.S. The sky is not falling. It's bird poop and you can't out run it. El cielo esta cayendo?
Ah, pictures. I won't let myself be captured in photos anymore! They're like small boxes of doom. In addition, I'm not photogenic at all.
Haha, I only say that because I like how that phrase sounds in Spanish. I'm starting to learn the language, so coming up with random phrases helps it along.
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You guys are so nice! Thanks for all the welcoming posts!
lol be afraid be VERY afraid, MUAHAHAH. Just jking welcome to susans
Hey, cool, welcome to the site. It's okay, you can hang around on the outskirts. The members are already acting pretty nice with me, and I'm new too. You won't be negatively judged. I bet it's against the ToS.
SilverFang
The counselor I met with last month a few times told me that people who just happen to live in the same area make connections of convenience. People who have the same interests make connections that are stronger and therefore draw them closer together. Couple that together with the fact that you can have a PMS day here (whether you have a vagina or not) and everyone will support you through your troubles just makes this a really good place.
I'm starting to wonder though....should we have chapters throughout the nation? Or some type of yearly meeting? Something like that?
Quote from: Patrick on July 16, 2009, 11:06:37 AM
Yes, to most doctors, the stereotypical FtM childhood is insisting you are a boy at a very young age, only liking stereotypical boy play things, choosing a male name when you're very young, playing sports, being active... and blah blah blah.
In my defense, I was like that only half of the time. I also liked to read and write and draw, play music and dance; which are all stereotypically girl's things.
Bah, stereotypes. Not all boys play to stereotypes, either--think of all the male artists, authors, dancers, and musicians both past and present. I held to some stereotypical boy interests when I was younger (I liked to build, figure out how stuff works, dig in the dirt, play with toy cars, etc, etc), but I also did plenty of those 'stereotypically girly' things you mentioned: in particular, reading and drawing. So much so that my mother eventually had to give up a walk-in closet to hold all of my books (she even stenciled 'Library' on the door). The closet--and under the bed, and the desk, and the dressers--in my old room is filled with sketch books, supplies, and finished projects (and my current apartment is headed the same way...). Sports? I was never much for team sports.
The stereotype thing just doesn't hold muster, as far as I am concerned; what you know yourself to be does.
Quote from: Patrick on July 17, 2009, 01:14:50 PM
Nah, he's genuine. He doesn't really push me into believing anything, because he didn't come from a completely typical FtM background.
....
Hormone blockers? Wouldn't work. I've asked about getting whatever I could, whether it was T or hormone blockers. I started puberty when I was 9, so it's too late for blockers, but I'm too young for T.
Ah, I'm glad that therapist is a good fit then! It would be very stressful to be invalidated by another FtM like that.
Also, I can TOTALLY relate to the ridiculously early puberty. I'm sorry man. That sucks. :(
Quote from: Kayden on July 18, 2009, 02:03:51 AM
Ah, I'm glad that therapist is a good fit then! It would be very stressful to be invalidated by another FtM like that.
Also, I can TOTALLY relate to the ridiculously early puberty. I'm sorry man. That sucks. :(
It would be very contradictory! And depressing.
I thought I was the only person who had to deal with early puberty! Oh thank gosh! Well, I mean... It's good to know that I'm not some kind of early-puberty-freak or something.
I can't remember if I said hello yet or not
if I did, enjoy your deja vu :P
if not, hiya! Welcome to susans
I'm part of the early puberty club too, 10 year olds should never have B cups, it just aint right ::)
Welcome! (a few days late :D) I think everything's already been said...and ditto on ridiculously early puberty. Bleah. ;D
I'm new here too, but hello anyway.
I was one of those unlucky early-puberty people too; my first 'time of the month' was just before I turned 9. not cool.
Hi.. Patrick.
Just a kiwi here so your wellcome ..
...noeleena...
Well, I know I'm really late, :embarrassed: :) but welcome to the family!
I wouldn't worry about that "typical FTM childhood" crap. "Normal" people all grow up differently, but suddenly when a person is faced with someone that is not "normal", they have to fit a description exactly. :eusa_doh: Example: all the famous musicians didn't grow up the same way; they each had different interests as children, and some of them showed nothing that would hint to musical talent till they were older. Same situation here. Only difference is that there is an easy way to prove that you are a good musician, but not an easy way to prove you are FTM.
Anyway, I don't know how old you are, but I didn't figure out what the problem was till I hit puberty (I was 10, and already had B-cup chest :( ). Great time to find out, huh? And parents tend to think it's a phase. I guess they'll get the fact that it's not eventually.
I'm rambling. But in any case, we are glad to have you here, and would be happy to listen to any story you might have to share with us. :)
I'm amazed at how many of you started puberty so early. I was 13-14 before starting. I don't know your guys exact ages, but I'm thinking alot of you are in your 20's?
If so, this is just farther proof that the growth hormones they use on livestock are making children physically mature faster. I remember that if anyone was starting to mature at 11 they were considered a "freak" and made fun of. :-X
Hola Patrick! Es un placer conocerte, y bienvenido a Susan's! :icon_wave:
(A.k.a. Spanish is awesome. :D).
Anyhoo, yes, it really is lovely to cyberly meet you, and as everyone's said, don't be scared, we don't bite, it's always nice to have another brother here. Hope you enjoy your time with us, and that you find all the help you need. From what I've experienced here, the support and advice are amazing, it really is a wonderful family to be a part of. (And never be scared to read the threads without posting, nor to speak up if you have something to say, both are equally fine).
And yes, early puberty is not cool. I "started" when I was 11. Not as young as some of the guys here, but ickily young enough. As for childhood, I was always into dancing and art, and playing fighter aircraft in the schoolyard (running around with your arms out like planes trying to shoot each other down. Very pacifist sort of stuff :P), and science and music and bright glittery shiny essence-of-oooooh! sort of stuff and building gianormous Lego towers and bulldozing them with my head. If Mum's telling me I can't be a guy because I've always been really feminine weren't so irritating, it would be funny. ::) :laugh:
Anyway, yes, please don't feel marginalised or left out, you really aren't. :icon_hug:
Will xox
Quote from: Radar on July 23, 2009, 06:57:59 AM
I'm amazed at how many of you started puberty so early. I was 13-14 before starting. I don't know your guys exact ages, but I'm thinking alot of you are in your 20's?
I'm 20. Ironically, I was made fun of because a lot of the kids on my estate thought I was a boy, and then I grew boobs.
Ha ha, now I have someone younger to taunt! Whoops, I meant to say welcome to Susan's. Freudian slip.
Quote from: Radar on July 23, 2009, 06:57:59 AM
If so, this is just farther proof that the growth hormones they use on livestock are making children physically mature faster. I remember that if anyone was starting to mature at 11 they were considered a "freak" and made fun of.
Indeed. 13 -14 is considered late enough to call a doctor over now.
There was a girl across the road from me when I was growing up. Her mother worked in a chicken factory for 6 years before they moved to my area. Needless to say, the children were fed on chicken as a primary food source. The girl? She got her periods at 7. She had a fully developed female woman body (very feminine looking) at 11. In the mid-90's that was still crazy young.
You know those chickens servered as food? At their "adult size", they're actually 6 weeks old. Go go Yellow #47!
Quote from: Teknoir on July 24, 2009, 04:33:00 AM
Indeed. 13 -14 is considered late enough to call a doctor over now.
Really? That's insane. Needless to say I
was happy about my "delayed" puberty because I was hoping I wouldn't start looking more female. Oh well. :)
Quote from: CodyJess on July 22, 2009, 10:20:01 PM
I was one of those unlucky early-puberty people too; my first 'time of the month' was just before I turned 9. not cool.
Same here. :(
Quote from: Radar on July 23, 2009, 06:57:59 AM
I'm amazed at how many of you started puberty so early. I was 13-14 before starting. I don't know your guys exact ages, but I'm thinking alot of you are in your 20's?
If so, this is just farther proof that the growth hormones they use on livestock are making children physically mature faster. I remember that if anyone was starting to mature at 11 they were considered a "freak" and made fun of. :-X
Hmm. . . I didn't get my period (luckily) until 14. But then I'm a vegetarian.
Welcome to the site, the people are all really understanding here.
SilverFang
Wow! I haven't checked my little post for a really long time! I've gotta say, thank you all for welcoming me, even if it was a bit late, because all of it is welcomed!
Hopefully, I'll become more active in the forums!
Quote from: Teknoir on July 24, 2009, 04:33:00 AM
Indeed. 13 -14 is considered late enough to call a doctor over now.
13-14? Really? I thought it would be like... 15 or 16. (Then again, I didn't pay attention in the girl's segment of "Health Class".)
Ah, the chickens. In heard about that on the news. Every dinner for me consisted of chicken, or steak, or meatballs and maybe a vegetable or two. And a starch. Too bad I didn't become vegetarian earlier. =(
vegetarian for 37 years. Puberty at 11. So much for that theory.
Quote from: tekla on July 15, 2009, 10:54:48 PM
Like all real families, we're a little bit dysfunctional. Except those of us from California, we're not from a dysfunctional family, we're products of a dysfunctional state.
Well said Tekla!
But yes welcome Patrick, it is nice of you to join us! I hope you find this site useful and don't ever hesitate to ask if you have nay questions. :)
DO NOT FEAR US, BOYLING. WE COME IN PEACE.
...wait, reading is a girl thing? Sence when? Geez, I was a girly little child then wasn't I? o_o I always thought it was a boy thing.
I didn't get my pubery 'till pretty late. It was pretty sweet. =D
I'm 17 now, so I may be attending my last year of high school as a girl. We have something in common, eh? Nice to see a younger face among all these old people! =)
Always raises a laugh
What is old BTW?
Anyone 10 yrs older than you? It's a bit like alcholism, an alcholic is some one who drinks more than their GP (family Dr).
Laughs and Fun
Cindy
Quote from: CindyJames on August 01, 2009, 03:52:01 AM
What is old BTW?
Anyone 10 yrs older than you? It's a bit like alcholism, an alcholic is some one who drinks more than their GP (family Dr).
Too true. Just like the definition of "kid" changes as you get older. My great aunt was still calling all her nieces and nephews "you kids" when they were in their 60's. :D