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Detransitioning...Have you ever thought about it ?

Started by Anatta, January 20, 2013, 01:00:06 AM

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Detransitioning Thoughts

For Post Ops  Yes At Times
3 (2.8%)
No Never
14 (13.2%)
For Pre and Non Ops on HRT Yes At Times
21 (19.8%)
No Never
26 (24.5%)
For Pre-transitioners Who have thought/are thinking about not transitioning Yes
16 (15.1%)
No Never
7 (6.6%)
New to it all ?
10 (9.4%)
Other
9 (8.5%)

Total Members Voted: 96

Shana A

I first transitioned in 1993, lived for over a year as who I am, and then de-transitioned due to various circumstances. I tried to transition again a couple more times over the next 20 years, encountering difficulties and discrimination each time. I'm finally transitioning w/ reasonable success during this past year, including starting HRT. Thus I have fairly extensive experiences with de-transitioning. I hope to never again live through de-transition.

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Carolina1983

Detransition? never ever. I would rather die.


Since I knew that I could make things right there was no going back.
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Jamie D

Quote from: Zarathoustra on January 20, 2013, 10:26:13 AM
I'm french so I am not sûre I have very nice understand your question but I have detransitioning after 10 months of Testostérone  and mastectomy and live in girl because I was terrified at the idea to take a treatment in my whole life and make genital surgery (hysterectomy and phalloplasty) I was desperate. But two years later I have start at new my transition, I becam more courageous and determined (I was totally girl withouth breast but very girly). Today, I am on testosterone since July 2011 and I have finished my transition (expect the penis). :)


(I am sorry, it's difficult to explain my story in details because I'm bad in english)

You did just fine and I understood you.
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Jamie D

Quote from: Venus-Castina on January 20, 2013, 10:49:15 AM
The thought of detransitioning crosses my mind regularly. Now I am 18 months into transition I more and more realize that I have started hrt too late for it to have a good effect on my body. There is just too much testosterone damage that cannot be reversed and because of that I am afraid I will always experience some gender dysphoria.
So I am presented with a choice here: Live as an unpassable woman with a fair amount of genderdysphoria and being a social outcast, or live as a man with a lot of genderdysphoria but at least I am treated like a normal person.
Both options don't appeal to me so often I wonder what the point of living is.

But you are passable, and getting prettier all the time!
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Noah

I have been in transition for 9 months and on HRT for 5.5 months. I think about detransition because of the cultural focus on certainty and absolution that transgender people endure.

The idea passes into my consciousness because my society is horrified that this is a "mistake" and in the trans community detransition is taboo. For this reason I think about it.

Whenever I do I laugh to myself. The idea that I would ever choose to live as a man again is a joke. A cruel and peculiar joke. When I woke up to myself in this life, I was set free. There is no life if I'm not being me.

I've often wondered how I would manage if HRT was not an option for me. I get very nervous when I think about that. I need HRT so badly and I love it deeply. I hope that I might always be well enough to be in treatment.

The fear around detransition is based in other peoples fear, Cis fear. We are entitled to our own doubts, for sure. But I believe our fear would diminish if our world would stop trying to eradicate us.

I don't care what I have to do to be this way, I'll do it. I never thought life could be like this. IT ISN'T PERFECT! I have fear and insecurity and everything else a rich life has. But in transition it is all manageable. I was unable to manage my life before. Fear was insurmountable.

I don't agree with the urging narrative that begs us to be void of doubt. To question transition, detransition, is incredibly healthy. None of us are more or less authentic than the other for the sake of our doubt.

I am grateful to be comfortable in transition. When I've thought about detransition I try to imagine a day in the future where I want to be a man, or am willing to be...I honestly can't fathom it. This is my destiny.

Great topic.

x Di
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crazy at the coast

Its been about 9 years since I started with hrt and no, never thought about detransitioning, just couldn't ever do that. Would rather be dead than go back.
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Anatta

Quote from: Zarathoustra on January 20, 2013, 10:26:13 AM
I'm french so I am not sûre I have very nice understand your question but I have detransitioning after 10 months of Testostérone  and mastectomy and live in girl because I was terrified at the idea to take a treatment in my whole life and make genital surgery (hysterectomy and phalloplasty) I was desperate. But two years later I have start at new my transition, I becam more courageous and determined (I was totally girl withouth breast but very girly). Today, I am on testosterone since July 2011 and I have finished my transition (expect the penis). :)


(I am sorry, it's difficult to explain my story in details because I'm bad in english)

Kia Ora Mon ami,

Your English is easy to understand....

Have a good journey...Bon voyage ...

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Kelly J. P.

 I've thought about it, in a sense. I feel that with my facial bone structure, my face has an androgynous appearance - a feminine masculine face, if you will. Because of this, I have thought that presenting androgynously, as opposed to female, would be easier; I wouldn't have to worry about whether I pass or not, I wouldn't have to hold myself up to standards of female beauty, and I could ignore my discomfort with my appearance, because how I look would properly align with my presentation.

It wasn't the answer, though. Doing the above would probably result in no change, or negative change, to my mood because it would be like admitting defeat. I still feel defeated, but I will be able continue the "fight" for as long as I need to.

As for going back to male... well, I've thought about that, too. Actually doing so would be traumatizing, and I would be a failure of a man even if I tried. My personality, as dark and gloomy as it is, is not a manly one, I would keep up the female voice because I cannot stand speaking in a male voice, and my body type isn't very masculine either. I could only be sane with a minimum of an androgynous presentation.
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~RoadToTrista~

Sometimes I just don't wanna go through with it. The only person I came out to was my therapist and I still regret it and cringe thinking about it because someone in the world now knows my dirty little secret. I shouldn't have even gone to her since I can transition by myself anyway, maybe I would've told my dad by now.

Before I was holding off till graduation. That was what? Like six months ago? The only progress I've made is hair-growing, and that isn't very hard. I feel under so much pressure because my body is just getting more masculine and it just gets worse with each wasted day. Sometimes I just wanna give up life. (And by that I don't mean kill myself, I just wanna take a breather)

I'm also not very eager to destroy my fertility.
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Anatta

#29
Kia Ora,

If one detransitions,[especially if it's in regards to family or religious issues]...Things, I would have thought will never be quite the same as before, it would seem the detransitioner ends up in a kind of limbo land... Where friends, family, church congregation, have in the back of their minds, will s/he do it again? Can I ever 'trust' him/her ? Is s/he really 'cured' ?

Or is it possible to live a relatively 'normal' life as your old self again ?

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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RAY

[cwe live in fear not being what  we are but that is inside us. Facing live is not about
but artifical material which inprision our hopes and dreams. Never give others that are negative take away your choices. We must decide the jounery to travel otherwise fear lives our life never letting us take the inner courage to our freedom.yes. I have  r]
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judithlynn


Hi Girls,
I call myself a serial transitioner, because over the years I have taken a number of steps forward in the process then steps back. I went through the whole purging thing several times over the years in my 20s and 30's. I had a string of relationships and a marriage all that ended in seperation and divorce, either because of my gender dysphoria or my very low sex drive, basically making me unable to have an erection. Other types of sex were fine, but not as a man in a typical male role.

In my marriage when I came out that I was a TS, that ended my marriage. My SO was helpful early on buying me clothes and makeup, but that led to  living at first in seperate bedrooms, then formally seperating and divorce 3 years later.

Losing the love of my life that I worshipped, nearly destroyed me. But I kept going. A year later after being made redundant from my job, I had the chance to fully transition and having been on Premarin then for about 10 months decided to live full time as a woman. I was helped by three CIS Gendered straight women friends and slowly adjusted to life as a woman, although I hadnt come out to my family, but montkhy trips to see my parents got more difficult as I started to look more rounded. Everyone made comments how I appeared to be putting on weight.

I then lived full time as a woman (for nearly 12 months) working as a secretary/receptionist. It was heaven. I had a brief relationship with a guy, very fulfilling looking back and in fact this just confirmed ny feelings of being a woman, although I have always been sexually attracted to women

What caused me to de-transition, was being outed at work (The UK some 25 years was not as Trans tolerant as it is today), my financial situation (the divorce had crippled me financially) and being offered a top job overseas in more former self. I didnt want to do it, but made a plan to work towards transitioning again when I could afford it.

I then moved overseas, kept up the Estrogen for over 17 months  and lived a sort of half life (weekends and holidays as a woman, living in a Lesbian household), work as a man. I worked on the Electrolysis and other stuff.

Then some changes at my Overseas job saw me losing the job and in the process the crisis forced my hand and I de-transitioned fully , with a big purge and a move to another location.

Over the years I have had little steps in the direction, with the Internet and all the information on the Web especially all the Youtube videos and how especially young people seem to be able to transition so well, but it was the death of my parents that triggered the next set of gender dysphoria doubts. Being back in the UK sorting out their affairs led me to partially transition again to living as a woman for some 3 months.

A Health problem  a year later made me think that I needed to move forward again as this dysphoria is never going to leave me.  I started back on the beauty treatments, then 6 months ago started on IPL (We didnt have than in the 80s in the UK) and then approached a therapist and GP to discuss getting back on E.

This time I am taking it slowly, in measured steps, as I have learnt a lot over the years. There is no rush. I am getting the E levels built up, After having my baseline meds done, I have discovered that in fact that I have very low T levels , well below what a normal male has  about the level of a female and I was lucky to have had quite a bit of breast growth from my first srious transition in the 80s.  The IPL is working realy well. I am out and about again as a woman and have put together a great team to help me with my transition. I even recently discovered a fantastic woman that teaches burlesque dancing and also deportment. But unlike my last two transition attempts  I am not rushing into it. I want to do as much as possible to ensure that I look as female as possible.

From my first period on HRT I already have A Cup breasts, but I am starting to see changes again already after only 8 weeks on HRT. Skin texture has changed and I am getting some fat re-distribution, slight but noticeable. No emotional changes as I have always (for the last 20 years) had the ability to cry on a whim.

Getting my Colour Analysis done was probably the most important thing so far (after the IPL) as it has helped me so much by making sure that I buy clothes  that fit me well and highlight with my skin tones and also mean that I dont buy or use the wrong make up. It is the best investment in my view that someone can make

Do I still have doubts - Yes dont we all.

What about regrets. My biggest is I didnt have the strength and courage to go forward withmy very traditional family upbringing  that held me back.

Hugs
:-*
Hugs



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Anatta

Kia Ora  JudithLynn aka Serial transitioner  ;)

Thanks for your interesting story...I hope for your sake this time is the right time and you go from serial to serious transitioner [serious as in this is it-no going back]...Good luck and safe journey...

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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Anatta

Quote from: Cindy James on January 20, 2013, 06:37:54 AM
It joins the list of things:

Do not have fingernails torn out with pincers.
Do not be Knee capped by the IRA
Do not cover self in boiling oil
Do not listen to One Direction

Kia Ora Cindy,

::) I've heard from a source that your work place is planning to set up piped music 'throughout' the building and guess what they're going to play 'day in day out'.......... 

Enjoy ;) ;D

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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BunnyBee

Quote from: Cindy James on January 20, 2013, 06:37:54 AM
It joins the list of things:

Do not have fingernails torn out with pincers.
Do not be Knee capped by the IRA
Do not cover self in boiling oil
Do not listen to One Direction

Haha!
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Anatta

Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on January 20, 2013, 04:26:08 PM
Sometimes I just don't wanna go through with it. The only person I came out to was my therapist and I still regret it and cringe thinking about it because someone in the world now knows my dirty little secret. I shouldn't have even gone to her since I can transition by myself anyway, maybe I would've told my dad by now.

Before I was holding off till graduation. That was what? Like six months ago? The only progress I've made is hair-growing, and that isn't very hard. I feel under so much pressure because my body is just getting more masculine and it just gets worse with each wasted day. Sometimes I just wanna give up life. (And by that I don't mean kill myself, I just wanna take a breather)

I'm also not very eager to destroy my fertility.


Kia Ora Trista,

Have you thought about the sperm bank ?

Metta Zenda :)
"The most essential method which includes all other methods is beholding the mind. The mind is the root from which all things grow. If you can understand the mind, everything else is included !"   :icon_yes:
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V M

Sometimes I feel overwhelmed, depressed, discouraged and feel like giving up, but at this point detransitioning just really wouldn't make sense

Why would I go back to being 'That guy' that I never liked being?

The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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~RoadToTrista~

Quote from: Zenda on January 20, 2013, 11:01:06 PM
Kia Ora Trista,

Have you thought about the sperm bank ?

Metta Zenda :)

Yes, and I plan to use one too. Still, the fact that transitioning will severely limit my reproductive options sometimes doesn't sit well with me.
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kae m

No, not really. There was a short period of time after something bad happened to me that I stopped taking my HRT medication because I felt like trying to be myself was why it happened. I wasn't really thinking in any rational way at that point and was purely reacting to try to feel safer. Not taking my medication lasted 4 days until I realized it wasn't my fault, and that I would only be hurting myself if I stopped my medication and I wasn't about to let myself be hurt anymore.
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janis



   I just wished I transitioned 40 yrs ago instead of wanting until I am 68
  Lost a lot these passed yrs.
   janis
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