Back for a quick apology.

I am totally biased. I live in one of the most over crowded cities in Europe. Most of the parks have been built on. Those that are left are covered by ancient statute. Houses are regularly demolished to build blocks of flats on top.

Kentucky just sounds and looks, well, like heaven.

Yes i can't imagine living where you are with all those people.. i need space myself..

What if you came here and got lost in the woods hint hint hint

Quote from: spacial on February 03, 2013, 05:48:50 AM
peky.

Did you listen to the video?

They said that with a basic diet, one person could live off between 3/4 to 1.5 acres. That's actually quite a good standard when we remember that for several thousand years, people have been living from farming on much smaller fields and without any assistance from such modern notions as fertiliser, nutrition and such.

Now with 6 acres vegetable, 10 acres grazing and 50 acres for wood, I should think a small family could live quite well and have enough to sell surplus for money.

I have no idea what the holiday situation is in that part of the world, but with good preparation and marketing, a decent toilet for a start, holiday renting could make a considerable amount.

But, and here's the down side,  WORK. You would need to work hard to get that.

Edit, removed some silly sarcasm. Really sorry, I just didn't WORK hard enough to resist.

You forget that you would still have to have some sort of health care, clothing, etc, etc.. and thus your productivity would have to include some surplus to barter or slae for other goods.

As a reality check how many of those other 20 TG Farmers really have any experience in agriculture and animal husbandry?

I am not saying it is no possible to do it but you need more land, and you would need and operational capital for machinery, seeds, animals, vet care, moving the products, health care, clothing, consumables, and a rather large amount of food to eat until the famr begins to produce...and then there is the human capital..you need to train your farmers....

Yes it can be done but you will need not only the $ 200K for the land but probably another 400K to operate for the first 3 years

Quote from: peky on February 03, 2013, 11:03:58 AM
You forget that you would still have to have some sort of health care, clothing, etc, etc.. and thus your productivity would have to include some surplus to barter or slae for other goods.

As a reality check how many of those other 20 TG Farmers really have any experience in agriculture and animal husbandry?

I am not saying it is no possible to do it but you need more land, and you would need and operational capital for machinery, seeds, animals, vet care, moving the products, health care, clothing, consumables, and a rather large amount of food to eat until the famr begins to produce...and then there is the human capital..you need to train your farmers....

Yes it can be done but you will need not only the $ 200K for the land but probably another 400K to operate for the first 3 years

wow you want all the luxuries of life huh.. not me if i get a toothache i pack my gums with salt in tissue.. If i break a leg i tie it up with some straps and wood and hobble on.. as for food i can grow enough food on that 5 acres to feed 20 people the first yr..

nahh your thinking a bunch of prissy sisies and i am thinking some tough guys or amazons who can poop in a bucket and compost it and wipe their butt with newspaper.. sheesh pecky your a city slicker 

I thought I would throw my expertise into the pot. I would love something like this. I may be a girl on the inside and only 20 but my skills with computers and technology surpasses that of even my college tutor. In fact, I wrote tutorials for my teacher to use when it came to computers. I learn very quicky, can setup wiring and electricals without a problem. I'm also pretty handy with numbers and am experienced in accounting and finance. If there is a chance this could get off the ground, throw me a line and I'll hook on straight away. ;-)

Quote from: peky on February 03, 2013, 11:03:58 AM
You forget that you would still have to have some sort of health care, clothing, etc, etc.. and thus your productivity would have to include some surplus to barter or slae for other goods.

As a reality check how many of those other 20 TG Farmers really have any experience in agriculture and animal husbandry?

I am not saying it is no possible to do it but you need more land, and you would need and operational capital for machinery, seeds, animals, vet care, moving the products, health care, clothing, consumables, and a rather large amount of food to eat until the famr begins to produce...and then there is the human capital..you need to train your farmers....

Yes it can be done but you will need not only the $ 200K for the land but probably another 400K to operate for the first 3 years

I doubt there will be any Malls either!

Sorry peky, but every word you've written, doesn't surprise me at all. Though, inspite of that, it's still hilariously funny. I can see you, some how as Eva Gabor in the 60s TV show, Greenacres, eventually settling down!!

Quote from: Amazon D on February 03, 2013, 12:03:45 PM
well first i need someone with some more monthly income or downpayment money to buy this place

You know something, you're probably the best ourdoors woodswoman around and a pretty mean farmer as well, but you really need to work on that presentation.

Sit down and work out every aspect. How much capital needs to be injected.

What the prospects are for a single person or several.

What sort of knowledge and study someone reasonably needs to start. Some idea of what they will need to get past the first year or so.

What facilities, amenities and such are available now. Communication, roads, power, water, refuse disposal, local laws, neighbours and such. How much help is there in an emergency?

What you are proposing is a life time committment. Something which, with some imagination and ambition, could become very impressive, but in any case, anyone thinking about it will need to know what is there now and what is likely to be there soon.

As I said, if I could, I'd jump at it. But before I did, these are the sort of points I would want to understand.

Quote from: spacial on February 03, 2013, 01:09:17 PM
You know something, you're probably the best ourdoors woodswoman around and a pretty mean farmer as well, but you really need to work on that presentation.

Sit down and work out every aspect. How much capital needs to be injected.

What the prospects are for a single person or several.

What sort of knowledge and study someone reasonably needs to start. Some idea of what they will need to get past the first year or so.

What facilities, amenities and such are available now. Communication, roads, power, water, refuse disposal, local laws, neighbours and such. How much help is there in an emergency?

What you are proposing is a life time committment. Something which, with some imagination and ambition, could become very impressive, but in any case, anyone thinking about it will need to know what is there now and what is likely to be there soon.

As I said, if I could, I'd jump at it. But before I did, these are the sort of points I would want to understand.

Yes! Most people are very much stuck on modern appliances. You may have no problem spending the rest of your days using an outhouse and living without electricity, but the people that would go there probably would have a problem with it. The farm needs to be capable of generating its own income to pay for the things you can't get off the land. And knowing how much of a struggle it is to make ends meet for the local farmers around me, it's not an easy task, especially with a bunch of people that have no prior experience in it. I do commend you for the effort and hope it works out though.

Oh and I forgot to ask. Why is the land so cheap? I'm sure the land is cheaper in KY than it is here, but that seems awfully low for 300 acres that's not just land, even for the country. My house is in the country and it costs about $100,000 for 10 acres with no house. I'd seriously check into how this cost compares to other land in the area first and foremost. It could be that you're not allowed to develop the land, maybe it has poor drainage, maybe there's protected wildlife on it, gun ranges nearby, less than friendly neighbors, etc.

SPACIAL  thats your job sheesh

emily see the little world under my picture ..

click it and see what i can do or have done

Quote from: Amazon D on February 03, 2013, 01:32:13 PM
emily see the little world under my picture ..

click it and see what i can do or have done

That does sound very cool, so again. Hope you're able to make it work.

Mom is too old to make this move so no move for me now