I've been going slow with a 2 hour session every week because my face puffed up after treatments even with using some ice. And I also complained so much because of the pain & that slowed down my nice lady.  However she recently found something (from her physician) for injections that completely numbs a 1 or 2 inch area & she can zap as fast as she wants & I feel nothing whatsoever.

So I'm taking off the gloves with this fight next week & have her zap more & longer!

Good luck all other girl friends.

My being Native American I didn't have that much facial hair to begin with -but ooohhhHHHaAAaaeeeeeeeggggghhhhhHHHH how REPULSIVE facial hair and shaving is! Over the last year I've aqquired two personal lasers -one for single hairs (eyebrows, etc.) and one that treats up to 60 hairs at a time, and one Flash -n-Go pulse light generator. That makes 3 light based hair removal devices that set me back over $1,700. -And after a year I still have to shave although my hairs are much thinner now. I've gotten rid of what little underarm hair I had and the little hairs on the top of my feet are now gone. My arm hair and leg hair is very fine but it being black, well you guessed it it is noticeable so I'm working on that in between facial hair treatments.

My two worse obstacles in getting rid of it completely are that I'm pre HRT, and my age for the remaining facial hair is turning silver. In fact, 90% of the hair left on my face is silver so I've been using the charcoal dye with my treatments.

Today though girls was a wonderful day for me. Still pre HRT and visited several stores including a Pizza Hut where no one knew me and I was referred to as "maam," and "she." I went in 6 different stores and was accepted totally as who I am and get this -without even the teeniest bit of makeup! -in a black pair of sweats too mind you! yup, Auh natural and being accepted as who you are feels very good indeed. I may even now have the courage to post y'all a photo I feel so good about myself this evening!

Can't say that I care for having facial hair. I had a full beard for a decade based on a girl friend telling me that it looked good and then my wife asking me not to shave it.

Now I'm clean shaven and working on getting my credit card paid off before heading back for more electrolysis.

Definitely the worst thing about it is how much time and resources one has to expend on just that.

I had to quit electrolysis when I went to Michigan last May, and my beard slowly became a daily nightmare.  By the time I got back to California in November my electrologist was my second appointment (immediately after blood work for adjusting hormones).  I'm finally getting a little more clear and shaving isn't as dreadful, but I'm heading back to Michigan in a month and this time I'll find a good electrologist someplace.

I hate it, and I have a fairly heavy beard. 

I'm going to start with laser and see how well that works. My facial hair is dark, which is good for laser, but I also have an olive complexion, so hopefully that's not an issue.

To look very clean shaven I have to go a day without shaving, and then save against he grain. 

Quote from: Missy~rmdlm on December 12, 2013, 07:37:40 PM
...Unfortunately to this day I'm still battling my mustache, but I am slowly getting the upper hand via electrolysis.

No no, you are slowly getting the upper lip. 

Anyway I do HATE facial hair. I have Spanish ancestry through my mother and I inherited a dark, heavy beard. It has been the longest part of transition, that's for sure. I hate it!

Hang in there dear, these things just take time...I know you know that but the day will come when your problem is disappeared!

Thats the problem when your pre hrt. You have to keep after it. I thank God every day I don't have a shadow. I can't even stand the feel of stubble. It truly repulses me to a level of discust beyond description. I don't think I'd be able to hold on to hopw without my lasers and pulse flash ( flash - n -go).

Yeah it ->-bleeped-<-ing sucks!

Oh I've become an old pro at using my machines. The Flash-n-go's the one you got to be the most careful with. If not you can give yourself a sunburn especially using the dye as I have the same problem with the grays/silver hairs. I'm confident that once I start hrt after 6 months or so down the road I'll be on the road to a completely smoothe hair free face.

Hair is probably the most dysphoria-triggering thing there is for me. Body hair, facial hair, my eyebrows... Ugh. Right now I REALLY want to get my eyebrows professionally waxed/shaped but I kinda have to wait until after the holidays.. But luckily my facial hair is like, 80+% gone. After two laser sessions the sides of my face are bare, my neck is mostly bare aside from a few individual hairs, and I have some specks on my chin and around my mouth that still need to come out. I think some of them are still working their way out after the last session, but otherwise my upper lip is still growing a few thin and not-as-thin hairs. Really not nearly as bad as it used to be, but the slight shadow there still bothers the crap out of me. >_< Just glad I'm only spot-shaving like, once a week. My skin absolutely hates razors and I used to cut myself at least once every time.

Next laser session is in a week! Hopefully I continue to impress my laser tech with my progress.

It's gotta be the most hated evil.

It's the main thing that triggered my dysphoria when I was 14-15. It's also the reason it took so long for me to finally start my transition. I knew there was no way to fight it on a everyday basis once going 24/7. I hate shaving so when I was younger I'd sit in the bathroom for 2hrs and pluck each hair off my face until it was smooth. It was the only way I felt comfortable enough to go outside as a young woman. I used to hate other girls my age who didn't really have any body hair. They could just throw on some clothes and start hrt and that was it. BTW I still hate those girls lol.

Quote from: Missy~rmdlm on December 12, 2013, 07:37:40 PM
Me! It is my longest lasting and most troublesome dysphoria. Seven years before I self diagnosed as possible TS, I was 13.at the time my cousin made a comment about how nice and dark my mustache was coming in, as a compliment, I was horrified, and started shaving within the week. Unfortunately to this day I'm still battling my mustache, but I am slowly getting the upper hand via electrolysis.

Your comment about your cousin reminds me of one with my mother. When my mustache first started appearing when I was 14 my mother was so excited she actually made me pose will she took a picture. I still feel sad when I think how she was enjoying something that was causing me such pain.

I think you left out the word "having" - as in "who else hates having..."

I love beards - unfortunately having one really wouldn't suit my style, (and in any case I couldn't grow one).

On men they look hot! On women I can see they might be awkward.

Yup... hated the damned stuff as soon as it started growing in the first place. If you ask me, hair should only be one place... on top of the head. And yet of course the incompetent genetic staff in my head had to get my order backwards... as time went on, I was slowly ending up with hair everywhere else except the top of my head. (Thanks for fixing that unfortunate oversight, hormones! ☆*:.｡. o(≧▽≦)o .｡.:*☆)

Having a beard like this guy:



Therefore, I friggin hate it!  Laser is helping but darn it!  My whole jaw is blue!

Ashey you know what, I've just always uses a razor and people compliment me about my eyebrows. The thing about waxing is they just come right back! Plucking is about the same. I've also read that as we age our eyebrows thin, which makes us look older...so combine that with years of plucking since the hair eventually doesn't grow back...bottom line is shape your eyebrows but don't overdo it!

Also I'm in Florida! I'm in Jax, how about you? 

Quote from: FrancisAnn on December 12, 2013, 06:01:26 PM
I just hate that stuff. Hate it. I've had 5 sessions & my face is clean some however I wanted to go out tonight & it just feels so wrong to have to shave/cut off hairs then put on makeup.

We are moving as fast as possible with electrolysis & I cannot wait to have a clean nice face. I'm very passable & very comfortable being a woman most anywhere however I just hate this beard stubble, how ugly & stupid.

I just need to vent some steam, so frustrating.

Omg how I can relate! I never have passing problems and am complete comfortable but this stupid stubble! I have on 7hrs down so still along while to go . It just drives me nuts!

Quote from: MiaOhMya! on December 13, 2013, 03:59:40 AM
Ashey you know what, I've just always uses a razor and people compliment me about my eyebrows. The thing about waxing is they just come right back! Plucking is about the same. I've also read that as we age our eyebrows thin, which makes us look older...so combine that with years of plucking since the hair eventually doesn't grow back...bottom line is shape your eyebrows but don't overdo it!

Also I'm in Florida! I'm in Jax, how about you?

Hmm, not sure how confident I'd feel about shaving. I'll try waxing first and see how it goes. I'll probably settle on plucking once I know what I'm doing. They just need some thinning out and shaping.

And I'm in the greater Tampa Bay area for now, unfortunately. Lol.

Quote from: FrancisAnn on December 12, 2013, 06:01:26 PM
I just hate that stuff. Hate it. I've had 5 sessions & my face is clean some however I wanted to go out tonight & it just feels so wrong to have to shave/cut off hairs then put on makeup.

We are moving as fast as possible with electrolysis & I cannot wait to have a clean nice face. I'm very passable & very comfortable being a woman most anywhere however I just hate this beard stubble, how ugly & stupid.

I just need to vent some steam, so frustrating.

Actually, I really like facial hair..... just not on me.  On a guy that can pull it off, it's very attractive. 

Believe me, I share your pain (emotionally and physically).  My shadow is never ending and irksome.  Thank god that I started laser.  My suggestion is to use pre-shave cream, shaving gel and a really good razor.  The cheap disposables aren't the best and often can iritate the skin.  Although, even those tips do little to completely remove the shadow.  Just something we need to temporarily deal with. 

Too willing to join the chorus on this one!  Like LTL, I really do like facial hair on guys as opposed to the sandpaper effect but it all depends on the individual eh?  I had a beard of my own for decades to hide behind prior to self acceptance and transition.  I can readily understand our trans brothers wanting it.

Now, after six laser tx and HRT it drives me nuts and I hate feeling prickly stubble or the glint of a blond hair in the light.  I shave often and plan electrolysis but dislike the idea of hours of snap. crackle and pop.  Oh what  we wont do for smooth skin.....