I just thought I would ask and start a new thread. I wonder if we can make a list that would be kind of a helpful top 10 or top 20 perhaps, of things One can do to feminize themselves while waiting to be approved for HRT or for those unable or not wanting HRT as part of a treatment. I could totally use some advice and suggestions myself.

Some I can think right now...

1.Long hair
2.Make up
3.Jewelry
4.Weight loss
5.Less hair
6.Perfumes
7.More feminine manners
8.Female glasses

Lots of things.

But top of the list. Loose weight. Move your weight to the low end of the normal range for a female your age. BMI somewhere under 20.

Grow your hair out. Takes forever and wigs suck.

Learn how to apply make-up. Practice, practice, practice.

Find clothing that flatters your body. Not all things look good on all people.

Start electrolysis if you have the money. Also takes forever and expensive. First thing any trans woman should do and we always wish we started earlier.

Ill think of more, but this is enough to get started.

Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on January 10, 2014, 07:54:01 PM
I just thought I would ask and start a new thread. I wonder if we can make a list that would be kind of a helpful top 10 or top 20 perhaps, of things One can do to feminize themselves while waiting to be approved for HRT or for those unable or not wanting HRT as part of a treatment. I could totally use some advice and suggestions myself.

Grow hair out/hair style
Hair removal (especially facial)
pluck eyebrows
moisturize face
mannerisms/posture
clothing
make up
finger nails

find your female voice...


that is not affected on HRT anyway.

non hormonal..... hmmmm

1: female voice
2: facial hair romoval
3: make-up
4: clothes
5: grow head hair
6: female posture/walk/manurisoms
7: FFS

thats all i can think of off hand.

breast massage

Quote from: Oriah on January 11, 2014, 12:17:53 PM
breast massage

would that really work?

1 Remove facial hair
2 Long hair in female style
3 Pluck eyebrows
4 Make up
5 False breasts
6 Clothes
7 Voice
8 Jewellry
9 Manicure/nail polish
10 Shoes

All of the above, except the breast massage part. You dont have any if your not on hormones.

Quote from: Emo on January 11, 2014, 12:33:40 PM
would that really work?

the massaging helps with stimulating the bloodflow in the area. better flow means better growth in some cases.

another thing: long term tucking/inverting will bring down the t levels, slightly

eat foods that are natural anti-androgens, like mints. (and stay away from the t builders like cashews and almonds)

Kia Ora Sunshine,

Re: Top 10 ways to feminize yourself without Hormones?


1)Have lots of  Money
2) Find a good electrolysis or laser specialist 
3)(through to 10) employ the services of a skilled team of Surgeons

Or hope and pray that you'll be reincarnated as a female  (but I guess hormones will still play a part)

Metta Zenda

Quote from: veritatemfurto on January 11, 2014, 03:22:03 PM
the massaging helps with stimulating the bloodflow in the area. better flow means better growth in some cases.

another thing: long term tucking/inverting will bring down the t levels, slightly

eat foods that are natural anti-androgens, like mints. (and stay away from the t builders like cashews and almonds)

Pre-HRT there isn't any growth to improve though.

Quote from: Anatta on January 11, 2014, 03:54:03 PM
Re: Top 10 ways to feminize yourself without Hormones?


1) Have lots of  Money

Okay, I know this is a painful truth, one many of us suffer greatly with. I know I sometimes suffer with this truth on many levels. Please keep this in mind when I admit that my first reaction to this overlooked offering was laughter. These four words just had such a cutting through bluntness for me that mirth arose without volition. Kind of like a teacher striking a student - which is curious considering the author.

Well done, Anatta. 

PS - Did I mention I mean no offence with this reaction/post?!?

Quote from: Tanya W on January 11, 2014, 04:11:58 PM
Okay, I know this is a painful truth, one many of us suffer greatly with. I know I sometimes suffer with this truth on many levels. Please keep this in mind when I admit that my first reaction to this overlooked offering was laughter. These four words just had such a cutting through bluntness for me that mirth arose without volition. Kind of like a teacher striking a student - which is curious considering the author.

Well done, Anatta. 

PS - Did I mention I mean no offence with this reaction/post?!?

Kia Ora Tanya,

My post was part in jest and part serious...No offence taken....

Sunshine might like to change the title to Re: Top 10 ways to feminize yourself without Hormones...or lots of money ?

Metta Zenda

Yes, should be top of the list. Save every penny you can, transition is expensive no matter what. You will need all the money you can get.

Quote from: veritatemfurto on January 11, 2014, 03:22:03 PM
the massaging helps with stimulating the bloodflow in the area. better flow means better growth in some cases.

another thing: long term tucking/inverting will bring down the t levels, slightly

eat foods that are natural anti-androgens, like mints. (and stay away from the t builders like cashews and almonds)

That helps..
Ive been looking for these kinds of answers..

Hmm could use a list of foods to stay away from then that are T boosting, I love MINT to death so that is good news. Could also use a list of foods that are good for trans women in general.

Quote from: amber1964 on January 11, 2014, 03:09:40 PM
All of the above, except the breast massage part. You dont have any if your not on hormones.

You should have seen my moobs two years ago.  Bigger than they are now...

Its not so much about a list of foods. But, HRT is hard on your body. Its a time of great changes. So you need to eat lots of very clean calories. No drinking, no drugs, no smoking. No processed foods of any kind. Everything as fresh as possible. Low in cholesterol, so no fats, no sugars, most especially nothing with corn based sweetener. Stay away from gluten as well or any product that uses modern hybrid grains. Proteins high in fish, chicken and pork ok very little to no beef. Try to get meat that is organic - no steroids or hormones used. Its a good time to stay very active. Doesnt matter what, some light strain training plus cardio is best.