Quote from: Ell on August 06, 2007, 09:00:39 AM
those who say they had no choice will be respected by the caregivers following SOC guidlines, if they can show that their desperation is not caused by some innate reason of insanity.
those who say they have a choice will be respected by the caregivers following SOC guidelines if they can show that their decision is well-founded and not caused by some innate reason of insanity.
in both cases, SOC guidelines require the patient to be fully aware of the consequences of, and accept personal responsibility for their decision(s).
so, unless, heaven forbid, you're insane, the SOC will treat both types of patient with the same respect.
While my therapist and my endo made me fully aware of the consequences of my actions, the word "choice" never came up, but nevertheless I did choose to see a therapist for my gender issues, and I chose to begin HRT after sorting out issues with my therapist. Both fully respect me and the decisions I've made to better myself.
Yes there have been some consequences, but mostly I haven't had much to complain about, so I don't (aside from the occasional day where the hormones make me feel moody...I swear it's PMS
) unless I'm feeling sad or someone treats me badly for no reason.
I think I have the right to do that much.
Quote from: Anaya on August 06, 2007, 07:02:47 AM
Quote from: Katia on August 05, 2007, 07:26:05 PM
if you say that you "chose" transition to be happy, yet you sound unhappy in 95% of your threads, posts, and personal blog. Hey, sorry but you'd better set your priorities right or stop acting like a martyr. i don't know who you are trying to fool with this "i chose transition to be happy". really? well, then i don't want to hear your whines about not being able to handle what you have "chosen". period.
i understand why you say that it isn't a choice, i do, but i just see it differently. *sigh*
let's use another comparison.
Theres a DVD i want. I heard it's somewhat badly made, but the movie is awesome and i just have to watch it. So thinking i can handle the problems of the dvd i buy it and play it back. Turns out i can't handle it. The AUdio frequently changes between english aaaand... mmhm spanish (some language you are remotely familiar with, but are really bad at), the subtitles are completely out of sync with the video and the video quality at certain points is just horrible.
So i watched the movie and liked it very very much, but as i said it had many problems. i chose to watche the movie knowing it had problems, so in your opinion i shouldn't complain about the bad quality?
ok another one:
Theres a Walmart with real bad costumer service, the kind that insults you and even might beat you up. But it is the only store with the brand of clothing items that you are not ... allergic to. You could say, that you'd have no choice and have to buy those clothes (walking naked in public is of course not possible. Bart Simpson taught me that). I say that i could just go to the real friendly store on the other side of the road and live with a horrible rash and be sick all my life, and probably die early in life.
But i don't actually want that, so i choose to go over to walmart.
there you are greeted with a nice "welcome... idiot". So you go directly to those special clothes (marked there as "clothes for freaks") . You take them, turn around and suddenly see some walmart guy there who insults you and then proceeds to beat you up. things go on similarly all the way back to the exit of the store. Now, i chose to go to walmart although i knew that they would treat me that way, so according to you i shouldn't file a complaint?
mmh i really should stop making so many comparisions
I love those comparisons Anaya.
It's like if you lived in a really bad, polluted city and had no means to move. There's no real alternatives to make the air cleaner. You know that because you need to breathe in order to live, you breathe, knowing full well that the air is polluted so badly that it will cause serious health complications. Does that mean you make a choice not to breathe? Of course not, that'd be silly. But that doesn't mean you don't complain about the bad air quality.
The same applies for transition. For some people (myself included) the situation got so bad it came down to
a choice to transition or to continue suffering (a.k.a. dying). Nobody wants to choose the latter, right? It's like my air quality example, it's just silly.
However you look at it, you made a choice, but that doesn't mean that you can't complain. There are factors we need to consider IMO. If, for example, you have been on HRT for several months and pass most of the time, have been to therapy on a regular basis, decide to go full-time and are relatively stable (holding down a job, attending school, have a support base, etc.), then if people treat you poorly you have a right to complain because they're just being rude and inconsiderate. You do the best you can, but it doesn't mean there aren't hardships you just forget about as if they don't bother you.
BUT, if you were to jump right into living full-time without HRT, without therapy, and were not relatively stable, and people harassed and even outright threatened you, then I would say you have created your own personal little hell, and don't really have the right to complain because you're at fault.
And please, this is all IMHO, and I ask that you respect that and think before anyone attacks me for my opinion.
~Fae
