My girls are taking off with or without me. B cup easy & growing. I'm happy however I'm not ready to go fulltime. For one I've delayed too much on facial hair & no way can I live normal with that hair. Guess it's just loose shirts from now on & back to electrolysis lady asap.

Anyone else in this situation? It's a akward/strange time for me.

Think of it as the awkward stage of female puberty you didn't get to experience the first time around. Sort of like, things are changing but you haven't yet grown into your new body.

But as for actual advice, I've heard you can cover beard shadow with concealer. You could try that until electrolysis works its magic.

It really is an awkward stage you're you're going through and it makes spring and summer very uncomfortable.  I wore large unbuttoned shirts to add a layer over a heavy t-shirt. and it worked o.k.   But I also had a long full beard and the girls did cause some people to stare.  The only thing that cured the problem was to come out to everyone and stop hiding.  And after that there was nothing to worry about, except I looked horrible under the 40 year old beard.

But it really is not a joking matter, and it adds so much stress to that phase of transition.  And it does seem to force some of our decisions to come out.

Quote from: kathyk on April 03, 2014, 10:35:34 PM
It really is an awkward stage you're you're going through and it makes spring and summer very uncomfortable.  I wore large unbuttoned shirts to add a layer over a heavy t-shirt. and it worked o.k.   But I also had a long full beard and the girls did cause some people to stare.  The only thing that cured the problem was to come out to everyone and stop hiding.  And after that there was nothing to worry about, except I looked horrible under the 40 year old beard.

But it really is not a joking matter, and it adds so much stress to that phase of transition.  And it does seem to force some of our decisions to come out.

Thanks for your understanding. That must have been tricky for you. The main things I want to come out are all the stupid hairs on my face. Damn I hate those stubborn hairs. Appointment Sat. morning with my lady to zap away more, that's all I can do. Good luck your way.

Quote from: FrancisAnn on April 03, 2014, 09:10:52 PM
My girls are taking off with or without me. B cup easy & growing. I'm happy however I'm not ready to go fulltime. For one I've delayed too much on facial hair & no way can I live normal with that hair. Guess it's just loose shirts from now on & back to electrolysis lady asap.

Anyone else in this situation? It's a akward/strange time for me.

I had the same problem when I went full time, take a razor with you when your out and about and take some liquid concealer/ foundation works fine. I been full time a year and im still fighting facial hair.

Keeping them hidden or worrying about people noticing them while in dude mode is a real drag (er, no pun intended). But can I just say, that once you go full time it is such a wonderful relief to not have to do that any more!

Thanks girl friends.

I've been trying to remove facial hair all my life it seems. I've always hated shaving. I had laser work long ago when I was in my early 20's that helped some. The reality that my breasts are really growing forces me to finally get serious again on electrolysis. My electro lady is very nice, we've had 7-8 sessions this past winter so it is time for me to continue in earnest. Somehow I have to ignore the pain of treatment if I'm ever going to have a normal life.

Before I went fulltime, people noticed breasts even under a loose, baggy t-shirt.   And I hear you on facial hair. I didn't even start any laser until I was fulltime and haven't done any electro on all the gray hairs I have on my face. I just shave every morning, luckily there is no shadow from gray hairs. Been fulltime that way for 8 years now.

Thanks. Facial hair is one more problem for all of us no doubt. I just despise shaving my face. Mine grows back so fast. I've covered it up so many ways for so long it's just disgusting. You must have less hair than I do so I'm glad it's a decent solution for you. Please have a great Friday.

Yeah I have the same issues..... I havnt gone full time yet so im always wearing an under shirt to try and hide them a little in public.  That hair....erg......the ones which hang around on my upper lip are the ones I have the most issues with atm. Ive had about 9 sessions of laser and yet they still gather and taunt me. Ive tried threatening them with more laser, offered them asylum on more manageable parts of my body - but no, looks like they are going to fight me to the last hair...

Pat, good for you. My hair is less, spiro is also working. I don't much care what other people think either, some look at me funny sometimes but I don't care. My facial hair is less & I have a very nice electro lady, so we will work away more. We meet every Saturday & she goes at it in her private office. I'm her only "male" client & she really cares to try & help me all she can to become a nice woman. It's nice to talk with you. Please have a very good day.

I think boobs go a long way towards making people see a woman, regardless of the rest. I know one time when I went out with my face still all covered in burned hair from laser (there's this nasty stage where the hairs haven't fallen out yet, but are dead and black and *really* obvious), I showed some cleavage and had some woman in a store say "oh, honey, my sister has the same problem, want to know a good salon that can wax that for you?" In other words, it's actually possible to be taken as a cis woman with facial hair rather than a trans woman, too.

(And I have at least one cis friend who finally did laser to fix the fact that she had, no joke, MORE facial hair than I did. That was really tough for her, but no one doubted she was a woman, including herself.)

Quote from: Jenna Marie on April 04, 2014, 09:01:47 AM
I think boobs go a long way towards making people see a woman, regardless of the rest. I know one time when I went out with my face still all covered in burned hair from laser (there's this nasty stage where the hairs haven't fallen out yet, but are dead and black and *really* obvious), I showed some cleavage and had some woman in a store say "oh, honey, my sister has the same problem, want to know a good salon that can wax that for you?" In other words, it's actually possible to be taken as a cis woman with facial hair rather than a trans woman, too.

(And I have at least one cis friend who finally did laser to fix the fact that she had, no joke, MORE facial hair than I did. That was really tough for her, but no one doubted she was a woman, including herself.)

Cool, Thanks, Like. My electro lady is very nice. As a girl she had terrible facial hair, she had to hide & shave her face on her wedding day. She was so embrassed. Finally later in life she had all removed that cost her thousands. Later some 10 years ago she learned the trade & opened her own electro shop. She is helping me all she can & we are good girl friends. So it seems I'm lucky to find her. We have a weekly session for 2-3 hours every Saturday morning. Off today for another session.

Yeah I have noticeable facial hair today as I hadn't shaved in two days and the dude i was selling something to still call me baby and hun. (When I say noticeable facial hair I mean slight stubble that's somewhere between vellous hair and soft, thin black hairs but not coarse regular stubble. Cis-male stubble is different from mine. Mine's like downy soft.) I haven't had one session of laser and no one ever takes me for male and now pretty girls come up to me all the time and want to talk about random stuff, like where' my BF at or want to go get some Jolly rancher's [really happened and she had on the cutest dress.  She thought I would be too hot in my outfit that's how we started talking], so that's kinda cool. For the first time in my life I have a dearth of female friends, it sucks. I hang out with James, James, and James. Boobs, hips and slenderness (or overall tininess) go very far in terms of earning you a way one ticket to girl world.

I'm trying my best to catch up as my girls grow. My electro lady will do all she can at a very nice rate, 8th visit today. Also appointment Monday with a woman plastic surgeon for a face & neck lift. My electro lady knows of her work and said "she does very good work, I know some women that have used her and were very satisfied"

So maybe full time & attractive soon.

I know what you mean about those wretched facial hairs. I'm still fighting the grays on my face, and though Pat may disagree with me and say I'm too critical of myself on this, lol! , I still see kind of a shadow mostly just after shaving from the irritation it now causes. It goes away after about an hour or so but I can't stand having to run that rake across my face even if I only need to do it once every 3 days. I can't use shaving cream so soap and water is my only way. I'm going to give myself a laser treatment (I own my own lasers -3 of them) Monday after I get back from the bloodsuckers (blood tests my Endo ordered). I never had much body hair and what I did have 3 months of hrt seems to have taken care of. But with these grays I have to use the carbon dye to make my lasers effective. Another thing, I got quite a tan (I'm Native American) when I was down south so I don't know how effective my lasers will even be, Aarrrrgh!! I hate these things with a repulsion impossible to describe! So your not alone Francis.

My boobs did have a growth spurt while I was away, and my better half told me today it's about time I start thinking about wearing some support for them, lol! It made me feel more feminine and kind of good her saying that, it made my day.

Quote from: Joanna Dark on April 05, 2014, 01:06:46 AM
Boobs, hips and slenderness (or overall tininess) go very far in terms of earning you a way one ticket to girl world.

Well, I certainly have the thinness and the hips, and very nice legs too. My boobs are growing but they're not quite there yet enough to really notice, unless I wear my pink tops, lol! . I just look like a flat chested girl, lol!

Quote from: justpat on April 05, 2014, 11:13:11 PM
   Hey Allyda I know you have some support handy just start wearing them Just don't remove your shirt and get sunburned like me !

Yea I know I have to start wearing those from our shopping trip -especially if I wear one of my pink tops, lol! Hey, on our last day out when I thought I got sunburned, well, as it turns out I just got a reeeeaaly dark tan with minimal very light sunburn. It seems I moved my boat into the shade just in time, lol! I'm going to try and give myself a laser treatment Monday after my blood tests but as dark as my skin is I don't know how effective my lasers will be. It just made me feel feminine hearing it coming from my better half. She says she's getting jealous of my hair too, lol! I told you about her lovely golden brown locks that come down to below her waistline. We had a great time with the kids at the park until we picked her mother up from work. The rest I'll tell ya about in a pm.

Oh and about removing my top -I'm not that bold, -yet, lol! I need more of that "bad influence" before I get there, lol! he, he, he ha ha ha he, he.

What does this post have to do with early breast growth & how to handle/adjust to it before living full time as a woman???

Quote from: FrancisAnn on April 06, 2014, 03:52:29 PM
What does this post have to do with early breast growth & how to handle/adjust to it before living full time as a woman???

Well I apologize Francis if I've offended you with a little personal comraderie between Pat & myself. I thought you and I were beyond such things. Nobody meant to sidetrack anything. I give you my word I'll never post again on another of your threads. Have a nice day!