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Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0

Started by V M, April 18, 2014, 05:41:48 PM

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Evelyn K

Quote from: kate on June 04, 2014, 07:36:26 AM
Wow Evelyn, you honestly look like a woman with some stubble. After laser you'll be fine. You have beautiful eyes :)

Lies! Don't tempt me!   :-\

;D
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ashrock

Quote from: Evelyn K on June 04, 2014, 09:16:08 AM
Lies! Don't tempt me!   :-\

;D
Personally, Im super jealous of your eyes... sigh...
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muffinpants

Quote from: Paula Christine on June 03, 2014, 11:18:23 PM
I'm crazy scared of how I look, and tho I promised my family, my wife, I would stop, it is tearing me up inside.  I can only dress, to cope, while out on trips each week.  With my herbal HRT (on it 7months) until I can get real scripts for some low-dose E, to keep me from going mad, I try to keep myself calm.  Tho I need to know if I could, ever, be the girl I feel inside, can I ever be good enough?  For others, for myself?

Just a shave, no laser or electrol yet, just plain foundation and Burt's bees lip balm.


I think you are beautiful! Your body and face are so fem! And your shoulders look awesome!! Doin great girl... I really hope you are able to work things out with your family.. if only your wife could see how much happier you would be if you could fully transition... is she willing to talk things over or with a therapist, or even on here? Good luck, honey!!
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AnneB

(Tearing up now) thank you, sooo much, Muffin.. I really am busted up inside,that my wife, tho she thinks I really need to just make myself happy,will not even think about being around if it happens.  She said so just an hour ago, after I returned from a therapy session.  She can see I am in a bad way now, very sad, and unhappy.

She went to two sessions with my therapist, I went to two with hers, but nothing short of the Spanish inquisition would make her stay with me if I transitioned.  I can wear nothing female infront of her.. I get a very sour look if I wear any girl-cut jeans.. And forget any girl tops, or underwear..  She sees my sadness, but said, if I really decide to revert.. become Shrek again.. . that it must be forever as she won't go thru the last three months again.  I will have a very difficult decision to make soon. 

I thank you for your kind words, it is such a hard thing for me to see...  hugs.

Paula
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crowcrow223

Paula, remember that it's your life, your happiness, and it's not worth sacrificing it for a relationship. Especially if the person doesn't accept you the way you are. Good luck and take care
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muffinpants

I know that has to be hard to live with Paula, I'm so sorry :( just to put it out there, if your wife ever does feel open to talking with another significant other to a transwoman, I would be more than happy to chat with her- even though it sounds pretty far fetched :P Hope you are well today <3
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Jill F

Big hugs, Paula. 

My wife definitely prefers to be with a live woman over a dead man, whether that is the case figuratively or literally.  I know it can be tough, but when my wife saw me happy and full of life after E, she never wanted "him" back.
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AnneB

Well.. its over.  A difficult thing happened. I had made close friends in my Disney pirates game, I was always female in it. Well, one of the girls also playing, made friends on FB.  We were sisters, nothing more. Well, I had stopped signing in as my... girl acct.. for almost three months.. so Lisa missed me and somehow found my address.. she sent me a "miss you" teddy bear, a sisters bracelet, and a miss you card.  The wife saw it and freaked. Really freaked. She stormed out the door saying she doesn't know when she'll be back. But we are done forever.

Its over. Now for good.  I will let you know .. what else.. I will now..

I'm .. idk .
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ashrock

Quote from: Paula Christine on June 05, 2014, 08:47:51 PM
Well.. its over.  A difficult thing happened. I had made close friends in my Disney pirates game, I was always female in it. Well, one of the girls also playing, made friends on FB.  We were sisters, nothing more. Well, I had stopped signing in as my... girl acct.. for almost three months.. so Lisa missed me and somehow found my address.. she sent me a "miss you" teddy bear, a sisters bracelet, and a miss you card.  The wife saw it and freaked. Really freaked. She stormed out the door saying she doesn't know when she'll be back. But we are done forever.

Its over. Now for good.  I will let you know .. what else.. I will now..

I'm .. idk .
I'm sorry.  I have been where you are.  It hurts.  we got divorced.  I try to still be there for her but she is grossly un supportive.  I love her, but I learned, I dont need her.  I'm ok now, and I know hearing that doesn't help a lot, but you will be ok too.  If she stays or goes, whatever happens, you will be ok.  Everyone told me I would, and now I see they where right.  I have since started transition, and am happier and more mentally stable than I ever was being dependant on her for my happyness
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Jamiep

Paula, physically you look like you have a nice body shape & facially a long tapered face, high cheek bone structure should bode well with hrt.

There seems to be a lot of love for each other that you each went with each other to both therapists. Perhaps you can tell your wife that the Disney thing is only a fantasy game, Lisa is an online player in a game...it is only a game. We all have fantasies, surely your wife must have one. She needs time to cool down, understandable to go ballistic over a big issue, but not over a game. If your wife freaked over a game is not easy to know where her head is on this. Best wishes on any chance to align yourselves together. If she can't be married to a woman then hopefully you have a mutually friendly break up so that each of you can be Happy. I have tears reading your last two posts. I am sorry you are both in this pain. I like what Jill said.

Take care
Hugs
Jamie
We are made of star stuff - Carl Sagan
Express Yourself
Own your zone
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Umiko



switch from a seperate post lol. i'm still pre but only for the next 12 days xD so i'm just wondering if i could get away without FFS xD
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AnneB

I don't want to derail this thread with what's happening.. but thank you Jamie, Tegan, Ash, Jill.. everyone.. I will.. somehow, get thru this, with your help, I'm sure.  I know this will finally give the decision I've needed to make to keep my mind from exploding.

Thank you also, for thinking I would pass(for what, idk).. Wish I had a pic of me from before Oct (when I began my herbals) to see how my face has changed.. not much, but I guess.. enough to tell. But I guess now, changes will abound.  I just hope, more for the good.
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ashrock

Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on June 05, 2014, 10:58:41 PM


switch from a seperate post lol. i'm still pre but only for the next 12 days xD so i'm just wondering if i could get away without FFS xD
I really don't think youd need ffs. You have some pretty good attributes going for you actually.
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Mickie

Quote from: Chic on June 03, 2014, 08:23:59 PM
You made my day. Made it. You don't know how happy you just made me feel! I still feel like I look male in these pictures but that's probably because I've seen myself this way my whole life. To be honest, there are filters on these pictures, but what they did was bring the lighting up and conceal the beard-mustache shadow, which could easily be achieved in real life by simply using some concealer makeup and walking into a better lit room. I could post the non-filtered ones for more accuracy, but my facial shape, features and most everything else are the same as they were in the regular photos.

Thank you so much. You made me feel so amazing about myself and my future ^-^

Edit: Okay, here's the unretouched photos:



Why are you on this thread????
You belong in the "you look fab darling" thread instead.
Dude, do you even normal?
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Chic

Quote from: Goldfish on June 03, 2014, 10:41:18 PM
That 'shirt dress'  :laugh: looks really really good. Usually into more andro clothing myself but I would make an exception for that. Curious how you made it. Does it stay up on its own? Looks like you're having to hold it up in the third, unless it's just the 'look' you were going for.

Anyway, if I came across you in public, based on what I can see in these pics, I would probably see you as female. Cute at that  :)
I think your face looks more feminine in these ones than it did in the last pic (the one using the 'full body mirror'). Given that you're hair (which is also pretty good) covers the upper part of your face, maybe it's something to do with that? Not sure if it's just because of the hair, or whether it might be because of something it's hiding. Or could be the quality of the older pic vs the newer ones. The new ones look like you're wearing some makeup (lip stick, maybe something around the eyes?) so it could be that. So many little things that can change so much. Feels like a bit of a minefield at times  :-\

I'm so sorry I didn't respond, I was already typing it up but I clicked in the wrong place and halfway through it went to a different page and I lost everything I typed ):

The shirt dress does stay up on its own. Just find a shirt large enough with a neck that's elastic enough, and you'll be able to make it. All you have to do is put on the shirt like normal, then pull your arms through the sleeves, then pull them through the neck of the shirt. It should then be tight enough to fit snugly around your chest. Now, tie the sleeves in a knot at the front. This not only thins you a bit but looks really stylish and you can use it to tighten the shirt around you so it fits well. In the third picture, I was only holding it up because it looked good. It gave the impression that I was hiding the breasts I don't have yet, haha

When I have my hair parted at the top, it not only elongates my face but shows my very masculine eyebrows. I was also in a store and wasn't into posing that much then. In front of my bathroom mirror I'm a lot more confident haha. It doesn't help I was looking downwards in the full body mirror pic. I'm not wearing any makeup on the newer pics except the ones that aren't listed as unfiltered (basically, the filtered versions, lol) have filters on them that give the impression of makeup. It did make my lips more pink, though, so it gives that impression! No makeup around the eyes though. No makeup or filters on the unfiltered ones, though.

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Emily1996

I think you look great, I would change hairstyle because that look is kind of androgynous more than femme, but it's more personal preference I guess... and you don't look like a boy anyway!  ;D
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Ms Grace

Quote from: Mermaid on June 07, 2014, 01:13:58 AM
Still a boy, 1 month on anti-androgens... hoping to get Estrogen soon =(
Really nervous about passing once I properly start HRT...

I doubt you'll have any trouble, hon. :)
One month is pretty much nothing in the grand scheme of things, give it a bit more time and you'll be noticing more changes, especially once you are on E.
Grace
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Transition 1.0 (Julie): HRT 1989-91
Self-denial: 1991-2013
Transition 2.0 (Grace): HRT June 24 2013
Full-time: March 24, 2014 :D
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Alaia

Welp, 3 months HRT. Not really feeling any physical changes yet, but I guess thanks to longer hair I'm at least starting to cross into andro territory now. The good news is my endo should be upping my spiro and estradiol dosages shortly.




"Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really love. It will not lead you astray."

― Rumi
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Handy

Quote from: Alaia on June 07, 2014, 08:17:37 AM
Welp, 3 months HRT. Not really feeling any physical changes yet, but I guess thanks to longer hair I'm at least starting to cross into andro territory now. The good news is my endo should be upping my spiro and estradiol dosages shortly.



I'd say you currently very comfortably fall into 'andro' territory; there's nothing super 'male' about your face that I can see, and if I saw you in public I'd probably assume you were a woman (unless you're build like a pro-athlete or something)

Your hairline is a little bit on the high side but nowhere near the point I'd question it if I saw it.

Honestly I'm pretty sure you're a bit of makeup and a couple months of hair-growth away from 'passing' with no problem. HRT is really gonna help out a lot.
On HRT 2 years - Full time 1/7/14
EE-Comp Engineering Student and Cartoon Lover
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Alaia

Quote from: Handy on June 07, 2014, 08:58:30 AM
I'd say you currently very comfortably fall into 'andro' territory; there's nothing super 'male' about your face that I can see, and if I saw you in public I'd probably assume you were a woman (unless you're build like a pro-athlete or something)

Your hairline is a little bit on the high side but nowhere near the point I'd question it if I saw it.

Honestly I'm pretty sure you're a bit of makeup and a couple months of hair-growth away from 'passing' with no problem. HRT is really gonna help out a lot.

Aww, that's sweet, but I don't think anyone would take me for a woman in public yet. I've still got a very much male appearance. I just picked that picture to share because I was surprised how andro I looked in it. Here's another from the same set which shows me more male:



The hairline is a bother for me. I'll probably have to get it lowered when I get FFS done (if I ever get the money for it). Transplants to round out the corners would be nice too.



"Let yourself be silently drawn by the strange pull of what you really love. It will not lead you astray."

― Rumi
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