the only jealousy (I wouldn't really call it that though) I've gotten was a few friends asking "why does XXXX make a prettier girl than me? ):<" and a handful of them saying how my boobs are bigger than theirs

I get compliments fairly often on my appearance.  That's because I work hard on it.  But no ciswoman has ever expressed any jealousy of me, and I'm glad of that because I think it would make me quite angry.  Any ciswoman that expresses any jealousy of a transwoman is showing her profound ignorance.  She has no idea what we have to go through to get out in the world and live our lives as we please while minimizing our chances of being jeered, harassed, assaulted, etc.

On the contrary, I've encountered ciswomen on forums taunting us for how easy we have it.  After all, we have "a choice".  We could be men, enjoying male privilege, etc., whereas they have no choice but to accept their lot in life.  My reply to such women is, "Oh!  So you'd be delighted to trade places with me, would you?"

Quote from: Foxglove on August 03, 2014, 04:56:34 AM
On the contrary, I've encountered ciswomen on forums taunting us for how easy we have it.  After all, we have "a choice".  We could be men, enjoying male privilege, etc., whereas they have no choice but to accept their lot in life.  My reply to such women is, "Oh!  So you'd be delighted to trade places with me, would you?"

Yes, we have a "choice".  Between a so-called "easy life" living a male privilege lie and having to manage what's inside our heads and hearts, or taking the simple option of changing our genitals, faces, the way we act and speak, our friends (sometimes), our jobs, our clothes.  Yup, being transgender is a walk in the park    Cheap too.   

No I dont think we have a choice. We never had any choice.. If we wanted to be ourselves without suffering, torment, self hatred and even suicide attempts then we couldnt go the way of being male because we simply arent. This is not some kind of " oh I would love to have fun in another gender, cross dressing party " (I dont have anything against cross dressers). I am speaking for myself but if I was forced to live my life as male I would have rather killed myself before being someone I am simply not. I just cant handle the fact of people saying that we have a choice because this implements some very bad thoughts about us, the transsexuals. Then all they do is believe that we are doing it to provocate and and tickle out some reactions. It just pisses me off if any people think like that (dont get me wrong I have understood the irony in your comments) but I am talking to all the people who think this way.


Love y'all , Alex ♥

Couldn't agree with you more, Ahlexandrah.  I have been fortunate that I haven't needed to deal with much ignorance in this regard.   The closest I had to it was a friend who asked where "people like you go to?" with the implication that we spend our time in strange bars on the outskirts of polite society. 

But I try to be an educator and bridge-builder:  on the few occasions when I encounter honest-natured ignorance I explain what I am and almost exclusively I get intelligent and sensitive questions in response.

We've got some ongoing work to do in correcting stereotypes.  For example one of the free newspapers ran an article talking about trangender rights, and the accompanying photo showed two 6'4" scantily clad ladies with DDD breasts, collagen lips, and more blond hair than Dolly Parton.  I mean, we all go for that look, riiiiight?

I've gotten the envy thing at times but as stated earlier in the thread I don't think cisgirls realize the amount of effort we put in, exercising, eating right, hair removal, makeup, not to mention surgeries.

When I came out at work one of my co-workers was totally shocked and told me it wasn't fair that I got to be a pretty girl, I explained that I spend 45 minutes every day exercising, I eat salads and high fiber all day, never ever eat any candy, snacks or fast food. Somehow the fact that I had to work hard for everything seemed to make her more accepting and since then she has become a really good friend.

Then there is "street envy", where a girl scopes you out as competition and then does the "shrug", I think this happens more often if I'm in the company of a good looking guy but It's hard to know if the girls realize I'm trans. I think this is just something all women need to deal with unless you really dress down and try not to get noticed.

To my knowledge, nope. I don't think I have anything for anyone, cis or whatever, to be jealous of anyway.

IDK if any cis woman have been jealous, but I often do get compliments about my figure, from women and men.

The thing is I have become more envious of cis women more after 3 years of being FT than I was 20 years ago

When I was younger I constantly wished I could be a women and would look at women with so much envy. Now I am a woman and I still have that same envy. Its just eating at me so much lately. Last night I went to our local fair, I got the usual looks from men and a couple of up and down looks from woman but I felt so inferior to any woman that passed by. The younger ones especially, not only do they have the looks and proportions but they have the many years to become even more beautiful.

No matter what size woman, her age or looks  they all looked so soft and natural. The hair, skin, curves, happiness...its all so soft! I actual thought I looked fairly decent.....but I started to feel hideous after about 3 hours there. I wanted to just leave but my children were enjoying their selves too much.

3 years ago I would of been flabbergasted to be able to walk around someplace and be seen by 1000"s of people without any strange looks and be treated like any other women. But last night I felt like I was so out of place. The thing is it wasn't because of anything that happened to me, it's what I was thinking about myself. I wasn't concerned with passing or what people thought of me. I was instead just hating myself for not being born cis and knowing who I was in the past!! 

Quote from: Ahlexandrah on August 02, 2014, 12:16:24 PM
I have received a lot of jealousy and envy from many cis girls. I have even been in heavy fights because of them. But many dont know that I am trans anyway so if they would know, I guess they would even feel worse lawl. I just find it ignorant, I mean I did so much for my transition and they still bitch on me its not even fun anymore. I just dont feel like this is right, to envy someone from anything they have been receiving or doing for their progress. So yes I totaly know this it has happened to me many times and it kinda makes me feel bad for them because I dont know how to deal with it.

This his how I look like lately

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I can definantly see why cis girls would be jealous of you but they need to remember that all women are beautiful in their own way whether they be trans or cis, but girlfriend you have really got it goin on xx

Quote from: Emily.T on August 03, 2014, 11:45:28 PM
I can definantly see why cis girls would be jealous of you but they need to remember that all women are beautiful in their own way whether they be trans or cis, but girlfriend you have really got it goin on xx

^This. All of it, the compliment as well as the fact that every woman is beautiful, whether they were born that way or became a woman. And based on RuPaul's Drag Race, there are some incredibly gorgeous cross dressers out there as well.

The more I integrate into female society the more I realize that it's not just a trans thing to have these feelings, I think it's just a part of being a woman, there are always girls that are younger, prettier and have nicer figures and once you start comparing yourself to every girl out there your confidence plummets and ..... But the next time you have these feelings remember that there is a concept called "confirmation bias", you see hundreds of women every day and you are comparing yourself against a dozen, unless you are a supermodel that's a game that you can't win, but neither can 982 of those 1000 that you walked past.

Then again I wonder how many out of the dozen have a personality that I could even stand staying around for more than 5 minutes, many of the really pretty girls tend to be arrogant and self centred because the can get away with it, there is nothing in the world more attractive than a smart and funny girl, all it takes is an sentence.

Quote from: Just Shelly on August 03, 2014, 11:29:56 PM
IDK if any cis woman have been jealous, but I often do get compliments about my figure, from women and men.

The thing is I have become more envious of cis women more after 3 years of being FT than I was 20 years ago

When I was younger I constantly wished I could be a women and would look at women with so much envy. Now I am a woman and I still have that same envy. Its just eating at me so much lately. Last night I went to our local fair, I got the usual looks from men and a couple of up and down looks from woman but I felt so inferior to any woman that passed by. The younger ones especially, not only do they have the looks and proportions but they have the many years to become even more beautiful.

No matter what size woman, her age or looks  they all looked so soft and natural. The hair, skin, curves, happiness...its all so soft! I actual thought I looked fairly decent.....but I started to feel hideous after about 3 hours there. I wanted to just leave but my children were enjoying their selves too much.

3 years ago I would of been flabbergasted to be able to walk around someplace and be seen by 1000"s of people without any strange looks and be treated like any other women. But last night I felt like I was so out of place. The thing is it wasn't because of anything that happened to me, it's what I was thinking about myself. I wasn't concerned with passing or what people thought of me. I was instead just hating myself for not being born cis and knowing who I was in the past!!

Quote from: Emily.T on August 03, 2014, 11:45:28 PM
I can definantly see why cis girls would be jealous of you but they need to remember that all women are beautiful in their own way whether they be trans or cis, but girlfriend you have really got it goin on xx

Yeah Ahlexandrah is teh hawt! I'm going to have to up my game, I'm going to compete!

Quote from: Evelyn K on August 03, 2014, 11:51:56 PM
Yeah Ahlexandrah is teh hawt! I'm going to have to up my game, I'm going to compete!

I think we are all going to have to up our game I know I am but he'll I'm not even on hrt yet so I'm not even in the game I'm just on the sidelines waiting for permission to play

Some of my friends have said that they're jealous of how big my boobs have gotten in such a small amount of time. I'm always told that they're jealous of how skinny I am. I was constantly told that before I transitioned too though.

Quote from: antonia on August 03, 2014, 11:49:56 PM
Then again I wonder how many out of the dozen have a personality that I could even stand staying around for more than 5 minutes, many of the really pretty girls tend to be arrogant and self centred because the can get away with it, there is nothing in the world more attractive than a smart and funny girl, all it takes is an sentence.

This is so true!!!

There are a couple of women (girls) on television and in real life that make me feel embarrassed of my gender. Can anyone really be that stupid!!

The same could be said for men as well.

Quote from: Autumn on August 04, 2014, 12:47:23 AM
Some of my friends have said that they're jealous of how big my boobs have gotten in such a small amount of time. I'm always told that they're jealous of how skinny I am. I was constantly told that before I transitioned too though.

I have had some women mentioned my figure and seemed to be jealous as well. The weird or even unjust thing, is that when I was my past gender I weighed 10 pounds more but people often would come up to me and ask if I was ill.

I get more than a hint from each of my friends and sisters every 28 days....usually followed by comments of being weird because I'm jealous of them every 28 days lol

not really...

My cis girl roommate does tease me for having bigger breasts (she has C cups and i Have D's) and for having better legs than her..


Sometimes I get looks in public, from women, as there boyfriends check me out.. lol.... as I love wearing short skirts or outfits that show off my legs.


Ladies, women are jealous of each other.

Quote from: noleen111 on August 05, 2014, 09:07:19 AM
not really...

My cis girl roommate does tease me for having bigger breasts (she has C cups and i Have D's) and for having better legs than her..


Sometimes I get looks in public, from women, as there boyfriends check me out.. lol.... as I love wearing short skirts or outfits that show off my legs.


Ladies, women are jealous of each other.

True, but I would rathet say that people are jealous of each other. Just human nature

Quote from: antonia on August 03, 2014, 06:36:41 PM
Then there is "street envy", where a girl scopes you out as competition and then does the "shrug", I think this happens more often if I'm in the company of a good looking guy but It's hard to know if the girls realize I'm trans. I think this is just something all women need to deal with unless you really dress down and try not to get noticed.

Women can be catty at times...and sometimes mean to each other.  And the beauty culture just feeds into it.  And I've noticed that some of the most beautiful women are also the most insecure and self conscious. 

When you're out in public, YOU know you're trans but THEY probably don't.  So don't assume those looks are any more than women sizing up the competition.  We just didn't get used to it because we didn't deal with the "mean girls" in high school.