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Absolutely Disgusting Transphobic Article from CWA

Started by katia, September 15, 2007, 07:25:20 PM

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Thundra

Leigh was a dear friend and a former moderator here.

Let me guess?  You are a twenty-something?
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ChildOfTheLight

Quote from: Thundra on September 25, 2007, 06:43:17 PM
People ought not be penalized from having a place to live, or from holding a job because someone else dislikes the way they dress. That is just stupid IMO. The world would be a much better place if everyone would mind their own GD business.

Damn hell straight!

There's a reason a wiser man than I once proposed "Mind Your Business" as the national motto of the United States.  That's the American way in three words.

Now here's my view.  You have the right to be what you want to be.  And for some people here, that means transitioning and disappearing into the world, and looking for everyone's eyes like a completely unremarkable member of the gender binary, and never speaking up about queer anything.  And that's their right.  No one is compelled to fight for any cause.  But what's not their right is to escape the effects of their choices if they should get outed in a world that sees them as culture-destroying perverts -- which they did nothing to stop, and thereby enabled -- or, worse, acted to support, in an attempt to blend in.  You have the right to make choices.  You don't have the right to escape the consequences of those choices -- freedom means obedience to the laws of nature, not being pardoned from them when they inconvenience you.

So, sure, you can say, "Nuh-uh, I'm a straight woman and always was, I was just born with a birth defect, and it's gone now."  That won't change the fact that if your stealth breaks, you're just as much a target of the anti-queer army as all of us androgynes, genderqueers, crossdressers, gays, bisexuals, and all the rest.

But you don't have to be an out-and-proud activist, either.  Just speaking up when someone disparages gays, transgender people, or whoever (hey, this applies just as well to black people, white people, Arab people, Jews, or any other group that someone might call "a threat to our society," or whatever they call people they don't like) and saying "Hey, that's not right.  They just want to live their lives, like all people, like you and me," and elaborating as necessary and as appropriate, is a very good thing, and if done by enough people, is worth a whole lot of activism.  It is a vote in favor of treating people like people.

(If you don't believe that last part -- that "Hey, that's not right.  They just want to live their lives, like all people, like you and me," -- then do what you want.  I don't care about you.)
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Jessie_Heart

I am not going to join in the debate I do however have one question how does someone go about becomming more active in this particular fight (sorry if the answer to this question should be obvious but I have never been active in much of anything so it isn't obvious to me.) I was talking to my wife a couple of weeks ago about feeling the need to speak out about all the injustices surronding these issues but I realized I had no idea how to do it! I know it may sound stupid but I really have no clue even where to start!
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Christo

Quote from: Jessie_Heart on September 26, 2007, 02:20:17 AM
I am not going to join in the debate I do however have one question how does someone go about becomming more active in this particular fight (sorry if the answer to this question should be obvious but I have never been active in much of anything so it isn't obvious to me.) I was talking to my wife a couple of weeks ago about feeling the need to speak out about all the injustices surronding these issues but I realized I had no idea how to do it! I know it may sound stupid but I really have no clue even where to start!


I wanna know to.  Karen wrote this for me.  but I got no clue how to start.


Quote from: Karen on September 15, 2007, 01:13:04 PM
Hi, Chris;

For people who have finally accepted themselves as trans, it's a very scary road.  Many have been emotionally injured because their search for what's normal for them is discouraged by society.

My first stepfather was from Georgia and would physically and emotionally abuse me for showing the least hint of femininity, fearing that if he didn't act to 'make a man out of me', I would turn into a ->-bleeped-<-got.  He wanted me to play football and other rough ultra-male sports, and tried relentlessly to push me into activities I didn't care for.  Others have had similar experiences of varying intensity.

For the trans guys, it's generally a wee bit easier (notice I said 'generally', individual cases can vary widely.)  Sadly, most societies code maleness as being preferable to femaleness.  But it's still a difficult path for one to take who feels 'the calling', and well-meaning people will make it difficult for the trans-guy to break out of the societal cage.

So, many of us, while we are driven to transition, never learn to accept that we deserve to be our true selves.  It always feels as if we're sneaking into a place we don't belong, or stealing an essence that doesn't belong to us.  And if we can just somehow keep that part of us hidden, we won't get kicked out of the tent.

It's very hard for some of us to accept for themselves that our trans-selves DO belong -- DO have as much right as anybody else to be wherever it is we wish to be.

You don't even need to fight in public.  You can contact elected representatives by e-mail or phone.  You can donate to organizations such as Transgender Law Center or Human Rights Campaign (I've met the San Francisco coordinator.)  There are many things you can do without exposing yourself and being a lightning-rod.

('Auntie') Karen
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Jessie_Heart

I don't care about being a lightning rod. I don't want this to be something that I do passively I want to be involved!
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Fer

Quote from: Katia on September 23, 2007, 04:00:50 AM

one thing is to wear the clothes of your target gender and another thing is to wear silky panties or a mini skirt because they turn you on or whatever.  yea, people can wear whatever they want, not in the workplace though.  i support enda, yet i dont support the idea of people coming to work with clothing that is inappropriate for the workplace.  capiche?

The world is an amusing place, innit, Katia darling?  Bloody hell.  I thought we were pals.  You are my enemy ;) & you owe me, you owe lots ;) :D when are you going to reimburse me?  Greedy girl.  You want it all for yourself. ;) I cant conceive the idea youre happy.  I cant accept it.  I dont want it to be true. Im bursting with envy. Thus I reveal against you & demoralize you in front of everybody even more so that my anger and envy can be veiled behind my supportive post::)
When are you going to pay  me what you owe me?

Lol.  You know that Im joking Katia darling >:D  I had too much coffee this morning.  Forgive my silliness.
The laws of God, the laws of man, He may keep that will and can; Not I. Let God and man decree Laws for themselves and not for me; And if my ways are not as theirs Let them mind their own affairs. - A. E. Housman
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Hypatia

Quote from: Thundra on September 25, 2007, 09:11:42 PM
Let me guess?  You are a twenty-something?
What? Oh wouldn't that be nice! LOL I just turned 48.

Posted on: September 26, 2007, 05:09:35 AM
Quote from: Jessie_Heart on September 26, 2007, 02:20:17 AMhow does someone go about becomming more active in this particular fight
Start here:
Human Rights Campaign
http://www.hrc.org/

National Gay and Lesbian Task Force Foundation (NGLTF)
http://www.thetaskforce.org/

The National Center For Lesbian Rights (NCLR)
http://www.nclrights.org/

Jessie, since you're Ohioan, you really need to get acquainted with Equality Ohio
http://www.equalityohio.org/

In general, search for "Equality [state]" to find the activist group working on your state laws.

From a transgender site - "Queer Activism - Why Bother?" Here's why.
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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RebeccaFog

Quote from: Hypatia on September 26, 2007, 05:26:50 AM
Quote from: Jessie_Heart on September 26, 2007, 02:20:17 AMhow does someone go about becomming more active in this particular fight
Start here:
Human Rights Campaign
http://www.hrc.org/

National Gay and Lesbian Task Force Foundation (NGLTF)
http://www.thetaskforce.org/

The National Center For Lesbian Rights (NCLR)
http://www.nclrights.org/

Jessie, since you're Ohioan, you really need to get acquainted with Equality Ohio
http://www.equalityohio.org/

In general, search for "Equality [state]" to find the activist group working on your state laws.

From a transgender site - "Queer Activism - Why Bother?" Here's why.

And don't forget the ever popular 'find out who your local state and federal representatives are and be sure to write them concerning topics that matter to you'.

   I need to work on these things myself.  Thanks for the pro responses people, now I can rest [in peace]  :)
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Jessie_Heart

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RebeccaFog

I forgot to say to write to local publications also.  Karen told me about that.
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Thundra

QuoteThe world is an amusing place, innit, Katia darling?  Bloody hell.  I thought we were pals.  You are my enemy  & you owe me, you owe lots   when are you going to reimburse me?  Greedy girl.  You want it all for yourself.  I cant conceive the idea youre happy.  I cant accept it.  I dont want it to be true. Im bursting with envy. Thus I reveal against you & demoralize you in front of everybody even more so that my anger and envy can be veiled behind my supportive post. 
When are you going to pay  me what you owe me?

Lol.  You know that Im joking Katia darling   I had too much coffee this morning.  Forgive my silliness.

I salute you for finding a way to be passive-aggressively confrontational while following rules against such. Nice job.  :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap: :eusa_clap:  I haven't seen an act that good since......hmmmmmm?  What?  Oh yeah!  High School!  Now you can relax back in your perfect little world where nothing ever effects you because you are a str8 woman. Salute!
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katia

Quote from: Fer on September 26, 2007, 05:09:32 AM

The world is an amusing place, innit, Katia darling?  Bloody hell.  I thought we were pals.  You are my enemy ;)

ha ha ha ha ha.  ask me if i care ;)


Quote from: Fer on September 26, 2007, 05:09:32 AM

you owe me, you owe lots ;) :D


i know i do.  wait.  you're not on my list. ???  my therapist, my family & selegne are but you aren't.  nice try.

Quote from: Fer on September 26, 2007, 05:09:32 AM

When are you going to pay  me what you owe me?

when i get pregnant.  deal? ;)



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