Alright, guys and girls. I've got a poll for you.

Would you rather:
A. Live a rich and successful life, a millionaire, possibly famous... But living with the torture of being the wrong gender?

B. Live a life of poverty, living on the streets, not knowing where your next meal is coming from... (like, POOR. Can't even afford something from the Dollar Store) But living as the correct gender?

And no, you can't just transition when you're rich and successful. You're the wrong gender as long as you live.

Also, you stay these ways the rest of your life. You never get out of poverty, you never stop being rich.

My personal choice is B. I worry more about growing up as a man then I do about being poor, so B is for me.

How about you guys and gals?

iiMTF

I'm already poor... Might as well have the right body.

I don't really like rich people all that much anyway

I'm transitioning to escape the hell that was my body, I knew there was a very real chance of being permanently unemployed and rejected by friends and family, so in a way, I already made the decision when I decided to transition.

Quote from: bluebirdx88 on September 03, 2014, 08:10:22 PM
I'm already poor... Might as well have the right body.

I don't really like rich people all that much anyway

No, DROP DEAD POOR. You have the technology to post on Susan's. I am talking about someone with no house, no computer, no phone, no nothing.

Also... not a snobby rich person. Just a good ol' successful nice rich person with a dark secret.

iiMTF

Quote from: iiMTF on September 03, 2014, 08:14:06 PM
No, DROP DEAD POOR. You have the technology to post on Susan's. I am talking about someone with no house, no computer, no phone, no nothing.

Also... not a snobby rich person. Just a good ol' successful nice rich person with a dark secret.

iiMTF

Considering that I already dumpster dive for food, and have experience squatting... ... Yep, B.

Depends....if I'm a biological male that feels like a female, I choose A.  I'll just suppress it and try my best to be happy with the male privilege.

If I'm a biological female, like I am now, then that is difficult.  I guess I will choose A in that case too.  I don't plan on living a long life anyways, so I might as well enjoy it while I can and have money and a successful life.  If I live past 40, then I must have done something wrong in my life in my opinion.  With that being said I have less than 20 years to go.  I think I'd be able to manage that.  Besides,  I can have the money to pay for therapy to deal with my issues, and I can dress as a "butch" lesbian.

The way I see it is I'm going to have a miserable life, whether I transition or not.  Transition isn't going to solve all of my problems, but money sure comes closer to doing so.

That is where I stand.

Id give everything to have the right body, everything.

Quote from: King Malachite on September 03, 2014, 08:19:17 PM
Depends....if I'm a biological male that feels like a female, I choose A.  I'll just suppress it and try my best to be happy with the male privilege.

If I'm a biological female, like I am now, then that is difficult.  I guess I will choose A in that case too.  I don't plan on living a long life anyways, so I might as well enjoy it while I can and have money and a successful life.  If I live past 40, then I must have done something wrong in my life in my opinion.  With that being said I have less than 20 years to go.  I think I'd be able to manage that.  Besides,  I can have the money to pay for therapy to deal with my issues, and I can dress as a "butch" lesbian.

The way I see it is I'm going to have a miserable life, whether I transition or not.  Transition isn't going to solve all of my problems, but money sure comes closer to doing so.

That is where I stand.

Why do you only plan on living until 40? Most people are living until like 80, nowadays.

Is this for medical reasons, do you think a medical problem is going to kill you? Or are you just going to leave the Earth yourself at that age?

iiMTF

Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on September 03, 2014, 08:22:32 PM
Id give everything to have the right body, everything.

Same here <3

Patience is a b-I mean jerk, tho.

iiMTF

Quote from: iiMTF on September 03, 2014, 08:28:01 PM
Why do you only plan on living until 40? Most people are living until like 80, nowadays.

Is this for medical reasons, do you think a medical problem is going to kill you? Or are you just going to leave the Earth yourself at that age?

iiMTF

Meh, it's kind of too long-winded and it's most likely will drift from the topic.  I'd rather not go into it though.

Quote from: King Malachite on September 03, 2014, 08:31:56 PM
Meh, it's kind of too long-winded and it's most likely will drift from the topic.  I'd rather not go into it though.

Okay... But make sure to talk to a therapist or something about it, if you haven't already. I don't want to see my friends here at Susan's pass.

iiMTF

I was going to pick rich because then I'd just transition, and buy myself a mansion, and start a granting organization to help trans people with transition, education, and getting ahead in life... but then you made that not allowed =/

I think I'd still rather pick rich. Because if I didn't have gender issues, I probably would be ignorant and maybe even intolerant of those issues. And I'd rather be sympathetic and hiding than be ignorant and unkind. I could still help other transfolk, financially speaking, even if I felt that I myself was trapped and transition wasn't an option. If I ever get rich I've already promised myself I'd have a secret room in my home that no one would ever know about (hidden behind either a bookshelf or a fireplace - maybe one of each). So I'd have enough money for that, and I'd fill it with all my secrets, and spend time in there being myself.

It's a rough life when you can't do all the things you want to do. I feel like the best way to make that meaningful is to help others.

So that's what I'd like to do.

I'll take rich. I'm wealthy now and I like being able to enjoy my life on my own terms.

I've been making my choice by the way I live.

I've given tens of thousands of dollars to transition. I'm far less financially comfortable, live in a much smaller house, etc. because of it.

So clearly, being myself is more important than money.

I picked poor but mixed feelings about it. It is that in the creative branch you are allowed to be different and it is appreciated even. But I love my job. At the moment it is already difficult to get a job but if me being transgender would mean I would have to live my life poor, with a simple job and not being able to work on my career then I would have ignored it.

Alrighttt you can't just ignore it > _ <. But before I even opened up to my feelings it was my creative way of living which kept it somewhat stable, unless I was alone. I would just literally work 24/7 o.o.

Quote from: Kirey on September 12, 2014, 03:27:25 PM
I picked poor but mixed feelings about it. It is that in the creative branch you are allowed to be different and it is appreciated even. But I love my job. At the moment it is already difficult to get a job but if me being transgender would mean I would have to live my life poor, with a simple job and not being able to work on my career then I would have ignored it.

Alrighttt you can't just ignore it > _ <. But before I even opened up to my feelings it was my creative way of living which kept it somewhat stable, unless I was alone. I would just literally work 24/7 o.o.

You can keep the same job and be poor. You can be the CEO of Microsoft and be poor.

iiMTF

Just to throw a monkey wrench in to the rich versus poor this is how I look at it.  I am a humble not really rich person nor super poor either money wise but I feel that a transition would make me rich in mind and soul so depends on what you mean by rich.  Of course money is nice but as the old saying goes it does not buy happiness so I would rather be rich in soul and poor on cash then poor on soul and rich on money.

I've been homeless poor, and I've been working 3 jobs and still skipping meals to feed my kid poor, and I grew up in a family where we lied and said we had electricity and water so nobody would make fun of us. I once sold all my music so I could buy candy to hand out to the trick or treaters who wouldn't even come to our house anyway. I used to work overtime at Popeye's and part time telemarketing and still regularly sold plasma to buy diapers. I weaned my kid at 13 months because she was too small and baby food was cheaper than getting enough rest to make milk. Years of unrelenting poverty is part of what led me to the conclusion that hard work has nothing to do with accomplishment. My parents worked hard and I worked hard, but nobody ever had enough of anything. When I was a child I thought we were wealthy because we had a Nintendo and none of my friends could afford one. In hindsight, ours was probably stolen. My brother was a typical delinquent. I'm proud that I've managed to make sure that my kid has never had to sleep outside. When we've been in between apartments or hotels or shelters, I let her sleep in my lap while I stayed awake at Waffle House or whatever. She never had to know that we were having financial problems.

Anyway. Sorry for rambling. I've known a number of people in high tax brackets and it's totally possible to be rich and still be a good person, but I'll take poor and cis in a heartbeat over trans and wealthy. I'd be worried that if I were not living in poverty, people might see my being trans as an affectation or eccentricity. Poor people get judged and treated badly in all sorts of ways but people usually accept their authenticity.

Seen a few post by you Felix and I agree with you a fair bit and to be honest you are richer in the mind and soul then most wealthy people.  I do wish you were not that poor of course but I cant help ya there:( Like you said there are nice/good rich people but more likely its the poor that are nicer and better people:)

I hope you win the lottery or something it sounds like you deserve a break:)

If my partner didn't have an opinion, I would rather live in the woods under a slab of cardboard than be rich and unable to transition.