There's nothing to be sorry for - I just feel like we are giving so much support now when you need it. But you've got the totally wrong mindset. If that could change I think you are able to read all the thing we've said again and take our advice!

You have nothing to be sorry about. It's much better on here seeking advice than not seek advice and other things occurring. I really do you stay around because your certainly not dragging us down I would like to believe were helping bring you up. Hugs
Mariah

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 25, 2015, 12:18:43 AM
I'm sorry.  You're right.  I'm just wasting all of your time.  Thanks for putting up with me.  Thanks for the advice.  I'm so sorry for lurking like this and dragging everyone down with me

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 25, 2015, 12:18:43 AM
I'm sorry.  You're right.  I'm just wasting all of your time.  Thanks for putting up with me.  Thanks for the advice.  I'm so sorry for lurking like this and dragging everyone down with me

Honestly I think you really need to go seek some help. No really. My take is that this goes well beyond just passing and you have some other issues that need looking into. You should really do this not just for your trans issues but for life in general. Sorry but that's just how I see it. I really hate to see you eat yourself up like this. I personally haven't given up on you but there's only so much we can say or do.

I agree, Andro.  You need more help than comments on a message board.  I'm a big believer in therapy, even if it's just talk therapy.  Your self-esteem issues go beyond just being transgender, it seems.  I can understand your feelings, I've been there.  Many of us have.  You're not wasting anyone's time.  We wouldn't be responding if we didn't care.  You are worthy of love, not only from others, but from yourself.  Learn to love yourself and the other love will follow.

Good luck and hugs! Remember you are not alone.

I just felt that this talk might be helpful in light of our recent discussion here:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,185411.0.html

Been having a hard time lately and just dont see anything but the old me...I'm attaching a photo I need honest feedback on whether there is hope for me, I have been FT for almost 6 months and although I have never been 'called out' I just feel like mirrors are starting to haunt me again.



please me honest I'm a big girl I can take it.

Quote from: kao on March 25, 2015, 06:40:31 PM
Been having a hard time lately and just dont see anything but the old me...I'm attaching a photo I need honest feedback on whether there is hope for me, I have been FT for almost 6 months and although I have never been 'called out' I just feel like mirrors are starting to haunt me again.



please me honest I'm a big girl I can take it.

Honesty - I would say it's borderline but with clothes and accessories you'd pass.

In this pic it would make me stop and think though but you really do lean on the side of female.

mmmmmm,

Just because you aren't passing doesn't mean people will always misgender you.  I know firsthand that oftentimes people WILL know, but simply won't react.

Quote from: kao on March 25, 2015, 06:40:31 PM
Been having a hard time lately and just dont see anything but the old me...I'm attaching a photo I need honest feedback on whether there is hope for me, I have been FT for almost 6 months and although I have never been 'called out' I just feel like mirrors are starting to haunt me again.



please me honest I'm a big girl I can take it.

I'm going to have to agree with her and say that you aren't there yet.  Before you think about FFS (trust me, I know how inaccessibly expensive it can be), you might want to consider trying your hand at contouring makeup.  That's always a good place to start.

Quote from: mmmmm on March 25, 2015, 06:59:33 PM
What exactly do you mean by not being "called out"? You are full-time, how do people (strangers) you interact with gender you?

Based on this only facial photo, I would read you as male. (if I forget I'm on a transgender support website)... I can't tell how would I read you in real life interaction, based on just this no-make-up photo.

I have seen many trans women, who honestly had much less promising starting point as you, transition successfully to being completely passable (not just 93% passable). Have you thought about FFS?

call out as in misgendered or treated disrespectfully/insulted for been trans* as for the photo it was a no makeup just showered to see how it would turn out, i didnt see the point of putting on makeup when as I dont need to go out today and I dont see the point of just wearing it around the house.  FFS is something that is out of the question as I will likely never afford it as I am unable to work currently due to health issues.  I am glad you think I have some promise and I understand alot of me been able to pass comes down to self confidence I have a friend who, although it isn't a nice thing to do, points out women who look more like a man than I do or did and take less care of themselves (which annoys me sometimes as they are still women but I have to put alot of effort in just to not get stared)

Quote from: ImagineKate on March 25, 2015, 06:47:25 PM
Honesty - I would say it's borderline but with clothes and accessories you'd pass.

In this pic it would make me stop and think though but you really do lean on the side of female.

Thank you I know this isn't a great picture to have used.

Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on March 25, 2015, 07:07:08 PM
mmmmmm,

Just because you aren't passing doesn't mean people will always misgender you.  I know firsthand that oftentimes people WILL know, but simply won't react.

I'm going to have to agree with her and say that you aren't there yet.  Before you think about FFS (trust me, I know how inaccessibly expensive it can be), you might want to consider trying your hand at contouring makeup.  That's always a good place to start.

I have been teaching myself contouring thanks to youtube, so many videos so little time.  I understand that some people will notice but not say anything but that is itself is fine with me at least in some sense I am accepted and not attacked for trying to be me if that makes sense.  Should I post the photo of me prior to me starting my transition? Oh and I am not on HRT yet while I am aware it is not a magic pill I am still looking forward to it.

Alrighty, here's another no makeup pic.  I'm closing in on 5 months.  I plan on legally changing my documentation and going full time within the next few months.  Every time I've posted pictures since I've hit the three month mark have been overwhelmingly positive and honestly helped me in so many ways!  I greatly appreciate it from the bottom of my heart!  I'll likely post more pictures the closer I get to crunch time, but as of now, with no makeup, do I pass?  It's honestly like getting ready to go skydiving or something the first time.  It's so exciting, yet so scary and nerve wrecking too.  As always, any and all feedback, positive or not, is greatly appreciated!  Thank you all so much!   
*other pictures are in this thread as well, though a little ways back, if you'd like to see other angles.  I seldom get to be myself, so I dont have a lot of them to share and don't want to get redundant and post the same ones.

Looks pretty good Alyssa! I would say definite pass.

Quote from: kao on March 25, 2015, 06:40:31 PM
Been having a hard time lately and just dont see anything but the old me...I'm attaching a photo I need honest feedback on whether there is hope for me, I have been FT for almost 6 months and although I have never been 'called out' I just feel like mirrors are starting to haunt me again.



please me honest I'm a big girl I can take it.

i think  because you have a long face, and long distances between lips/chin, and lip/nose it reads more male to me. i would try and cover your forehead more with bangs. also taking selfies up close will often distort the face a bit, so its possible that its making your face more longer than it actually is.

Quote from: michelle82 on March 26, 2015, 01:57:08 PM
i think  because you have a long face, and long distances between lips/chin, and lip/nose it reads more male to me. i would try and cover your forehead more with bangs. also taking selfies up close will often distort the face a bit, so its possible that its making your face more longer than it actually is.

I suck at taking photos of myself I think I had the camera above eye level so looking up which could have caused it and the camera on my phone is a bit crap at times and stretches the image if i move it down right after taking a photo.  My hair isn't usually back like that it was wet so it was just brushed straight back it usually covers part of the forehead I think the lip to nose is gap looks worse because of my big nose >.<

Hi all!

It's been a while since I posted here, and yesterday was my 5-month mark on HRT.

I posted in the before/after thread and didn't get much response, so here I am double-dipping.



I really like this dress.  It's my new favorite,

-Teg

Quote from: Alyssa Rae on March 26, 2015, 05:40:25 AM
Alrighty, here's another no makeup pic.  I'm closing in on 5 months.  I plan on legally changing my documentation and going full time within the next few months.  Every time I've posted pictures since I've hit the three month mark have been overwhelmingly positive and honestly helped me in so many ways!  I greatly appreciate it from the bottom of my heart!  I'll likely post more pictures the closer I get to crunch time, but as of now, with no makeup, do I pass?  It's honestly like getting ready to go skydiving or something the first time.  It's so exciting, yet so scary and nerve wrecking too.  As always, any and all feedback, positive or not, is greatly appreciated!  Thank you all so much!   
*other pictures are in this thread as well, though a little ways back, if you'd like to see other angles.  I seldom get to be myself, so I dont have a lot of them to share and don't want to get redundant and post the same ones.

If it wasn't that you came from here i would NEVER know the difference, insanely passable.

First day in my life using lipstick haha
But away from home, I go out as a man yet.... I hope that with my long hair, and with the magic of hormones, I'll be able to pass in some months...

Honestly I don't think you have much to worry about, you have such great facial features that it's going to be a breeze for you.

I bet you within 3 months of hormones and longer hair you will be able to go out in any kind of clothing without makeup and pass.

Quote from: SueMuksen on March 27, 2015, 09:07:26 AM
First day in my life using lipstick haha
But away from home, I go out as a man yet.... I hope that with my long hair, and with the magic of hormones, I'll be able to pass in some months...

Quote from: SueMuksen on March 27, 2015, 09:07:26 AM


First day in my life using lipstick haha
But away from home, I go out as a man yet.... I hope that with my long hair, and with the magic of hormones, I'll be able to pass in some months...

You kind of remind me of Emma Watson a little.

OMG, really? O.o



This one i took from another angle - and applied some filter. Enough to change your mind about it?  xD

Quote from: SueMuksen on March 27, 2015, 05:04:23 PM
OMG, really? O.o



This one i took from another angle - and applied some filter. Enough to change your mind about it?  xD

Shape those brows and watch magic happen.