Quote from: Celia0428 on July 01, 2015, 03:18:15 PM
I seriously doubt that Dr. Simon has performed more than 800 FFS already. Dr. Ousterhout performed 950 FFS from 1982, when he "invented" FFS, to 2009, when he published his book. This is 950 FFS in a period of 27 years.
Dr. Simon first approached FFS in 2007 and according to his website, he has performed about 300 FFS: http://facialteam.es/cff-equipo-quirurgico/dr-daniel-simon-es/ which is still more experience than Dr. Rossi, that's out of discussion, but very far from 800 surgeries.
You raise an interesting issue. I think the numbers and how they get tossed around in messages can be very confusing.
Doing 300 or 650 FFS "procedures", which is actually what appears to be reported on their web site - - could mean that they have worked on as few as 50 to maybe 150 patients. And those are procedures that are divided among the two of them. It appears they count each portion of the surgery as a different "procedure". For example, if you look at Dr. O's book - - he reports doing over 5,000 FFS "procedures" from 1982 to 2009. That is about 10 or more times as many procedures as any other claim for "procedures" from other surgeons. But read closer, only about 20% of that number (about 1000 patients) had forehead remodeling. But many of those patients had multiple "procedures" - - forehead, jaw, eyes, lip, nose.... etc. That is how you get a large number of "procedures" - - but that is not "surgeries" or patients.
In 1982, Dr. O was already highly experienced and thoroughly trained in plastic, craniofacial and jaw surgery - - but he is pretty candid in his book that he had to teach himself and learn how to do a lot of the difficult FFS stuff, from scratch. Reading between the lines, it took him a while to consistently get the types of optimal results that are now the "gold standard" and fairly routine for him. Apparently, from the history in the book, early on he was frustrated enough that he stopped and took the time to go over to the dental school and did an exhaustive study of the Male/Female skull differences in structural features - - which then allowed him to go back to surgery and vastly improve the results he obtained from the procedures and how he previously did those. There had to be a pretty steep learning curve back in the 1980s - - for even someone with Dr. Ousterhout's training and experience.
If a surgeon were already very well trained in plastic surgery and in craniofacial and jaw surgeries - - and then had someone like Dr. O to work with 10 and 12 hours a day in the operating room for several months and directly transfer all of that early learning curve into a few months of surgeries - - then that same skill set and capability gets compressed into a relatively short period of time and the patients would get the consistent benefit of all that experience.
But without that personal hands-on training - - everyone else is still having to work their way up that 1980's learning curve.
Probably worth while to keep the "numbers" in the right perspective. Those "procedure numbers" have the potential to only be marketing tools and seriously misleading.
