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Started by LuckyPower, May 03, 2016, 04:02:00 PM

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LuckyPower

I've been told my case is 'rare' in that I'm transitioning to be agender. After a few years researching and coming out to numerous consultants and workers I've had no solid answer on what my options are, and nobody had heard of anything like my case. Basically we're all clueless and it's going to be months before I even get ON the waiting list...

What I'm asking is: What are the options?

I hate saying it... but being biologically male I know that I can turn female (to a degree) downstairs and I'm not bothered about breasts or anything. I'm asexual so my sex life is irrelevant to my transition. I need to know what hormones I should take (and how much) along with the anatomy of any surgery so I can make the process faster.

I know it's a long shot but I have nowhere else to go and any help is most appreciated
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Quote from: LuckyPower on May 03, 2016, 04:02:00 PM
What I'm asking is: What are the options?

The first question I'd ask is how do you want to transition? What physical and social form would make you feel the most comfortable?

If you want to be biologically more female, you can take low or high dose HRT. Both will get you to the same place. It's only a question of how quickly you want to be there.

As far as surgery, there is the full vagiplasty, where you end up with a totally female bottom, orchiectomy, where you end up with a mostly male bottom but no testosterone production, and a number of options in between such as cosmetic vagiplasty (looks female from the outside, but no vaginal canal), and penectomy.

For social presentation (the most important, from my point of view) you can present completely female (that's what I do), completely male, or any other way you can imagine.

Agender people can transition pretty much the way any other trans person can transition. The big question, what is right for you.
Have you read my short story The Eve of Triumph?
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Richenda

Quote from: LuckyPower on May 03, 2016, 04:02:00 PM
I've been told my case is 'rare' in that I'm transitioning to be agender. After a few years researching and coming out to numerous consultants and workers I've had no solid answer on what my options are, and nobody had heard of anything like my case. Basically we're all clueless and it's going to be months before I even get ON the waiting list...

What I'm asking is: What are the options?

I hate saying it... but being biologically male I know that I can turn female (to a degree) downstairs and I'm not bothered about breasts or anything. I'm asexual so my sex life is irrelevant to my transition. I need to know what hormones I should take (and how much) along with the anatomy of any surgery so I can make the process faster.

I know it's a long shot but I have nowhere else to go and any help is most appreciated

Hi Lucky,

Welcome here. Good luck with your transition to agender: I really hope it goes well. The west is, I think, terribly fixated on binary gender thinking. You see it absolutely everywhere.

In Thailand there's much more gender-flex. You can be whatever you want on a spectrum and you will often see women who look male and guys who look female, and I'm not talking there just about the kathoey or ladyboys. Personally I love it. You don't have to be pigeon holed or stereotyped. Actually one of the answers I used to get when I posed the question 'are you a lady or a ladyboy?' would be 'why does it matter?' I love that and no longer ask the question :)
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confused_very

just ignore the notion of gender from your journey.
Your physical appearance and presentation is what you make it to be and is separate from how you feel as yourself.
You can start with anti androgens from a HRT point of view but sooner or later a doctor is going to be concerned for your bone density and bone health without taking oestrogen or testosterone. but as mentioned above, you can take a dosage that YOU are comfortable with.
You could even forego their concerns and just stay on an anti androgen if you feel the risks are satisfactory for yourself (just keep getting monitored and don't go it alone).

The problem you are probably more likely to run into and feel you are talking to brick walls is affirming your identity to others. As gender is what YOU identify as, it shouldn't be any one else's right to take that away from you.
Government paperwork and legislation will almost always specify binary gender notions. Every heteronormative person you speak to will not comprehend anything other than binary, as a customer you will be assumed as a gender when addressed. on electronic registration forms from anything as mundane as a loyalty card, to your bank accounts and mail out statements, right up to a birth certificate and passport, you most likely will HAVE to state a gender in order for the binary world to accept you into their fold.
What you do with HRT and surgery will pale into comparison of being able to be yourself in a binary world.
clothing you can choose.
the surgery options you can choose but be aware you are again talking with surgoens that recognise binary so it is more how you perceive your surgeries to better your perception of your presentation.
and HRT can be as strong or weak as you wish, don't focus on the numbers of the blood results, focus on how you feel from the effects of the therapy.
as an example:
for surgery, if you are looking to demasculinise features of your body, the world (psych, doctor, public, anyone you interact with) will still interpret it as feminising your features. So you have to be comfortable with what you interpret your life as, not everyone else.
Non binary, agender, whatever the label is tomorrow is a wonderful journey of discovery knowing you don't fit at either side of the spectrum and that you are uniquely you and the path you make to better find you is yours and yours alone.

I can give you my story and my path if you wish (at least in HRT form, i am still working out surgeries) but this is your story, your path, and you are the one that is dictating it. Just be strong in your resolution of who you are and try not to let the heteronormative cis-sexist world steer you into a state you are not comfortable with.
Be You.

Dami
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