Quote from: Cindi Jones on June 04, 2016, 04:19:08 PM
I wish I could watch the video but my internet service sucks rocks. I can't do any streaming. It's hard to get some web pages to load. But I pay full price just like everyone else. Ah, the luxuries of country living!

It's a shame you can't see it.

It pretty much sums up where I'm coming from - which is definitely not about stopping trans children from expressing themselves. I was one of those children - shutting them down is the last thing I would wish to do.

It is just my personal conviction that parents who allow their young kids to parade around with lacquered hair and false eyelashes instead of developing themselves in more healthy and age appropriate ways, are out to lunch.

Quote from: stephaniec on June 04, 2016, 04:38:06 PM
These are your personal views which are totally fine, but not all people are like that and our stories are so different even though the core issue is Dysphoria.

At what age should children dye their hair? Go to a salon for highlights?

Whenever they like? Four or five? And the parents can just pay for it because the child really wants to?

That's presuming you can even find a salon that would sit a child in a chair for three hours, pull their hair through tinfoil with hooks, paint them with peroxide, and happily take the credit for doing so.

I say this as someone who's been dying my own hair for years.

So, Jazz shouldn't be allowed on TV.

Quote from: alex82 on June 04, 2016, 04:51:43 PM
At what age should children dye their hair? Go to a salon for highlights?

Whenever they like? Four or five? And the parents can just pay for it because the child really wants to?

That's presuming you can even find a salon that would sit a child in a chair for three hours, pull their hair through tinfoil with hooks, paint them with peroxide, and happily take the credit for doing so.

I say this as someone who's been dying my own hair for years.

I've seen little boys with Mohawks at 2 yers old

Quote from: stephaniec on June 04, 2016, 04:53:48 PM
I've seen little boys with Mohawks at 2 yers old

Pretty rank to turn a toddler into a fashion accessory.

No idea who Jazz is.

Quote from: alex82 on June 04, 2016, 05:08:12 PM
Pretty rank to turn a toddler into a fashion accessory.

No idea who Jazz is.

I would imagine that the child was the one who wanted it

Quote from: stephaniec on June 04, 2016, 05:10:43 PM
I would imagine that the child was the one who wanted it

Children want all kinds of things they can't have. I used to love staying up really late - unless it was a weekend or a holiday, I wasn't allowed to.

I googled Jazz. She's not a woman - she's a teenage girl. So there's a mistake in sentence number one.

No, if the Wikipedia page is correct about the dates, I don't think a child of the ages she was doing so (12 is reported) should be discussing with Barbara Walters who she finds sexually attractive.

I didn't say she shouldn't be allowed on television. You've extrapolated - again - what i have said, and applied it to other things. I didn't have an opinion on whether she should be on tv because I had never heard of her.

Having heard of her, I think she'd be a largely positive role model who should absolutely be allowed on tv. But to discuss her sexual preferences at 12? No. And I'd say that about a cis child too. In fact, if it was a cis child, we wouldn't even be discussing this - because she would never have been given a platform at that age to discuss her sexual preferences in the first place. Barbara Walters should know better.

I"m sorry I have no intention whatsoever of having any conflict with anyone else's views . I just post my own view of life and how I live and everyone else has the same right.

Quote from: stephaniec on June 04, 2016, 05:30:45 PM
I"m sorry I have no intention whatsoever of having any conflict with anyone else's views . I just post my own view of life and how I live and everyone else has the same right.

Oh sure, I don't want a conflict either.

It's just that I've said my view, and you've said yours, which I've engaged with directly. But in response to mine, you've posted suicide stats as if they are new to me, defended toddlers rights to have whatever they desire, and accused me of insinuating that Jazz Jennings should not be allowed near a television camera when I didn't even know who she was.

None of what I've said warrants these responses, nor are they relevant to what I've said - which applies to all children, not just those with dysphoria.

 

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