Anti-androgens will more or less reduce muscle masses. This could do some facial reshaping but not much. As you are starting out with a masculine skull the estrogen will do a much better job of shifting you toward an androgynous/feminine appearance. In addition, the estrogen will help prevent calcium loss over the long term.

Yeah I figured, even if I do decide I wanna look more androgynous than feminine it'll probably be a lot more effective to do that if I use female hormones to counteract my male biology. And I guess I don't really care if I end up flat-chested or bigger, either one sounds appealing to me for different reasons, just gotta hope I don't feel too embarrassed in public...I'm still undecided on whether I wanna try to pass as a girl or go for the androgynous "this person is obviously trans but they're a total qt" look.

Aww. That outfit is so cute... Hope they ship fast 

Quote from: sarah1972 on September 12, 2016, 10:34:27 AM
Aww. That outfit is so cute... Hope they ship fast 

I know! It'll take a few weeks though, I think it said it could take as long as october 7th...but that's to be expected when ordering from china.

I'm um, not sure whether or not I'll post a photo when it gets here, there's a pretty good chance it won't even fit me anyway, but we'll see.

Usually I had good luck - most orders came within 2 weeks.

Photo is a good question... Let's see how it looks in real life :-)

I scheduled an appointment to Alder for September 21st! Therapist sounded really friendly so I'm not very worried about that. I just really hope my insurance will be good; she said I'm covered by mine but she wasn't sure how much it covers so we'll find out when I go there I guess. If I have to pay anything out of pocket it might have to wait until summer 2017 because I really don't have time for a job while in college and my mom isn't going to help me at all...I have to be honest, it makes it a little hard to be excited about this when the person you've relied on for guidance your whole life is positive that you're doing a bad thing and it kind of adds to my doubts about whether or not someone like me should even bother with this. But there are so many signs that point to the idea that I'd be better off as a girl (or at least someone who's largely indistinguishable from one and is therefore able to act like one even if they don't care if someone calls them a boy) so I think I'm making the right choice.

I went there for therapy to get my hrt letter.  The people there are very nice and respectful.  Best of luck.

Quote from: amberwaves on September 14, 2016, 03:03:42 PM
I went there for therapy to get my hrt letter.  The people there are very nice and respectful.  Best of luck.

Oh, really? That's great, I meant to ask if anyone here knew anything about the place. Did you visit their Harrisburg or Lancaster office? I think I'm pretty lucky to live within an hour of their Harrisburg location.

Also, would you mind giving me a quick rundown of what the process was like? Like, how long did it take (and how many therapy visits) until you were able to start hormones? And did you visit their doctor (or the doctor they'd recommend at least, I'm not sure how it works) for the actual HRT or use their letter to go somewhere more convenient?

I promised photos, so here you are. Sorry for the mess...

For the dress itself: shipping was quick and easy. Lucky for me, I had decided to order two sizes (my regular +1 and +2) to accommodate the size difference to Chinese sizes. By itself it is about the quality I expected for the price and the smaller one did not fit at all. The larger barely fits. I guess I need to iron it and find some better shoes to match. Overall looks OK but will not be in the favorite category [emoji3]

Oh, right, I forgot to post my own photo! Jeez, what's your height? It fits you so much better than me length-wise, but I didn't really have a choice since larger sizes were only like 1 or 2 cm longer and if anything the rest of it actually feels somewhat loose on me.

This was the best photo I could get of my flat-as-a-board self, I couldn't really get a full body shot:



The sleeves come up a bit short of my wrists (compensated for by a long sleeve black undershirt) and, well, it's kinda hard for me to tell if the skirt is an acceptable length or not because the house I'm in right now doesn't really have any mirrors big enough and I'm too lazy to be more creative with photo taking.

Also my hair is a mess, my sister suggested that I should specify to not have my hair layered since that's what they'd normally do for guys and I want a smoother look. Also I still need to learn how to style it better, I usually just rely on getting lucky with the comb.