Quote from: KayXo on February 01, 2017, 12:06:10 PM
I have scars just outside my vagina, on each side, still to this day. I had my op in 2005 with Dr. B. These scars are not visible if there is hair in the region but when waxed or shaved, they are quite apparent. They look like thin, white (hypopigmentation) lines. I wonder if Dr. Brassard could do anything to help improve the appearance of these scars, should call him.

Peeing was never a problem for me. I'm happy things are better for you.


Question: the skin of my inner labia seems quite thick compared to the average ciswoman? Have any of you girls operated by Brassard also noticed this?

Yes my inner Labia is thick but it doesn't spread out


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Quote from: jujubes1986 on February 01, 2017, 01:16:21 PM
Yes my inner Labia is thick but it doesn't spread out

Ditto.

Another Brassard patient - my inner labia seem normal (thinner than my wife's). My outer labia are fairly puffy, but I recently ran across someone complaining that most GRS results show outer labia that are not puffy *enough,* so now I figure that my sense of aesthetics just differs from hers rather than this being an actual failing. My inner labia are also mucosal on the inside portion, so it may be that Brassard's technique has changed a bit since 2005. I dunno.

My inner labia are also mucosal on the inside. 

In that case, maybe it's just that different bodies end up differently. (I was thinking that if he'd switched to stitching skin to urethral lining with no "filler," that might lead to a flatter result, but obviously that's not it.)

I have had to accept that by now, my feelings are more akin to a cis woman who wishes something were different - so long as what I ended up with is within the range of cis normal, it may not be perfect, but it's mine. I'm not interested in further surgery (of any kind) without a REALLY compelling reason, though; someone else might feel differently.

Quote from: Jenna Marie on February 01, 2017, 01:52:35 PM
In that case, maybe it's just that different bodies end up differently. (I was thinking that if he'd switched to stitching skin to urethral lining with no "filler," that might lead to a flatter result, but obviously that's not it.)

I have had to accept that by now, my feelings are more akin to a cis woman who wishes something were different - so long as what I ended up with is within the range of cis normal, it may not be perfect, but it's mine. I'm not interested in further surgery (of any kind) without a REALLY compelling reason, though; someone else might feel differently.

I have a similar result, with puffy outer lips and thickish inner lips. I have seen such a look on cis women before, though I would have loved a 'porn star' look, instead, but that can be achieved with a labiopasty somewhere down the road, if I ever feel the need. For me, I was looking for a natural look, but with the least amount of stitch work, so as to not disrupt the sensations in the area unnecessarily. My sensation is better than I hoped, the look is plenty realistic, and I lubricate very well. I quit using lube while dilating in month four. I have had internal orgasms from day 11 onward, and I started having clitoral orgasms pretty easily after I had my first one at 6 months. Orgasm is pretty routine for me now, as long as I am warm, calm, happy, and thinking about giving myself to somebody I love, or at least, lust after, ha ha!

I did have a revision, my V scar did not heal well, and I didn't pee straight, and I wanted a more pronounced clitoral hood. My original clitoral hood was repurposed into a neo-scrotum as an infant, long story, ugh, and my neo-phallus was circumsized to look like a real penis, so there just wasn't much tissue there to work with. Dre. Belanger did my revision, and also improved the symmetry to my vagina in the process. The new scars are healing far faster than the old ones, with no pinched painful places, and they already lie flat, only 3 months later. I was born female, and that area was always very, very sensitive, and not like a cis male's skin in that region at all, more like baby skin than man skin, for sure. I don't know how one can have such a surgery without leaving a visible scar, but my feeling now is that I couldn't really ask for a less obvious set than I currently have. I like my pubic hair, it has always grown in a cis female pattern, and it is already long enough to hide my scars, even though they are still reddish in a lot of places. About 40% of the V scar is almost indistinguishable from the surrounding skin. Maybe I am lucky that I have very fair skin, only porcelain skin is lighter than mine, so the scars blend in easily.

I am also now thinking of my vagina like any cis woman does, yes it is great, but hmm, if I could, I would like this or that different, but do I need it improved? No, I need other things improved above my neck waaay before I would consider spending a dime on any changes down there. Plus, I want more time with it pain-free, lol, it has only been 2 years since the reconstruction, and I just want to enjoy her now, lol..

Missy

MissGendered: Well, it sounds like you have a combination of mine and Kay's results. (I have puffy outer labia but thinner inner labia.) I'm glad the revision worked out so well for you! I actually ended up with no visible scarring; I only had a noticeable scar on each of the outer labia to begin with, and both of them faded and disappeared. I suspect it's that they're hidden in folds, but I've poked around and can't see them anymore... As far as functionality, you're also not the first Brassard person I've heard from who was easily orgasmic and self-lubricating.

(At this point, I've actually had to *argue* with a gyn that I was not cis; I figure that's evidence enough that what I have is within cis norms, and like you, I have many better places to spend money than touching things up down there. Some porn stars *do* have to have surgery to get that porn-star look, after all!)

Quote from: Jenna Marie on February 01, 2017, 05:13:27 PM
MissGendered: Well, it sounds like you have a combination of mine and Kay's results. (I have puffy outer labia but thinner inner labia.) I'm glad the revision worked out so well for you! I actually ended up with no visible scarring; I only had a noticeable scar on each of the outer labia to begin with, and both of them faded and disappeared. I suspect it's that they're hidden in folds, but I've poked around and can't see them anymore... As far as functionality, you're also not the first Brassard person I've heard from who was easily orgasmic and self-lubricating.

(At this point, I've actually had to *argue* with a gyn that I was not cis; I figure that's evidence enough that what I have is within cis norms, and like you, I have many better places to spend money than touching things up down there. Some porn stars *do* have to have surgery to get that porn-star look, after all!)

Thank you, Jenna!

I am still hoping that with time mine will also get lost in the folds, lol, but being just 3 months post-revision, they can be seen if you are looking closely...

Which, by the way, is how I lost my boyfriend a month ago, unfortunately. We had been making love all weekend, and late on Sunday morn, right after I orgasmed with him inside me, he asks me if I wanted him to go down on me. Well, greedy little tart that I am, I threw caution to the wind, and said, "mmhmmm". Well, it was already full daylight, and my pubes were still pretty short, and the scars were very red from all the activity down there, and he noticed them. "Hey, baby, what is this little scar from"..."Oh, wow, there's another"...I could feel him tracing the outline of the V scar with his finger, and I knew I was undone, ughh, uggh, ughh...

Well, the full story is in my first post, linked below, I don't wanna derail this thread any more than I already have, but yeah, I lost him soon after...

So, yep, I want my scars to fade, fade, fade away, too! lol..

Missy

Quote from: MissGendered on February 01, 2017, 05:04:07 PMMaybe I am lucky that I have very fair skin, only porcelain skin is lighter than mine, so the scars blend in easily.

I also have pretty light skin but my scars still show as they are even lighter in color. Oh well...

By the way, I very much enjoy reading your posts. Thank you for sharing.

Quote from: KayXo on February 01, 2017, 05:37:46 PM
I also have pretty light skin but my scars still show as they are even lighter in color. Oh well...

By the way, I very much enjoy reading your posts. Thank you for sharing.

Aww, thank you, Kay! 

Dre. Belanger does amazing stitch work, my revised scars are about 1/3 the width of the original ones, so you might consider a consult about a revision if you are unhappy with yours as they are. I don't think she was working with Brassard in 2005, so maybe you might be able to get a much better result now. I dunno, just a thought..

Thanks for the nice comment, I am all smiles now!

Missy

But I wouldn't want to offend Dr. Brassard by going to Dre. Bélanger. What to do?

Quote from: KayXo on February 01, 2017, 05:51:07 PM
But I wouldn't want to offend Dr. Brassard by going to Dre. Bélanger. What to do?

She is his partner, they work together on the GRS patients, that's how they get done in less than two hours. I think she is the default surgeon for revisions, nowadays, actually. So, no, Brassard wouldn't have any issue at all, hun, I think it was his idea to do things that way. Her stitch work was a great addition to his practice, and one of the very reasons he took her on, at least that was the rumor in the recovery residence when I was there. I dunno, but she made big improvements to my cootchie in less than 30 minutes, and there was a lot to attend to, soo, yeah, give Suzanne in the office a call, and see what she says, you are the client, what you want is what you should get, ya know?

Missy

Will do. Again, thanks your input.

Lol...now I wonder if I need revision. My surgery was Sept 2014...will they do anything this far along?
To be honest, I've not wondered much what it should look like vis a vis a cis woman. I just asssume that when I look down well, I don't see "it" anymore and am satisfied.

What revision or work can be done in 30 minutes?
Does it cost for any revision?

Quote from: Nina_Ottawa on February 01, 2017, 07:42:16 PM
Lol...now I wonder if I need revision. My surgery was Sept 2014...will they do anything this far along?
To be honest, I've not wondered much what it should look like vis a vis a cis woman. I just asssume that when I look down well, I don't see "it" anymore and am satisfied.

What revision or work can be done in 30 minutes?
Does it cost for any revision?

Nina,

I don't know what their official policy is, but my original surgery was January 2015, and I had been keeping them abreast of the issues that concerned me all along. My inability to produce a solid urine stream was probably the main reason they agreed to revise my surgery, as well as a large lump of unresolved scar tissue on the upper right side where the suture knot was located. The agreement was that they would do the revision for free, but I would have to cover the cost of the operating room, which was about $750 Canadian. When I spoke with Dre. Belanger, right before surgery, I also pointed out where a few sutures would improve my clitoral hood, and she agreed. She took a closer look once I was on the table, and I was surprised when she decided to just go ahead and resect the entire V scar, and also remove some extra tissue from my right side, which had remained a bit puffier after surgery. The result was a much tidier appearance and a very nice symmetrical look, as well. My clitoral hood is better, but not as full as I would like, and though I can pee without getting it on me, I am hoping in time it will get even better. Another nice part about having the whole V scar resected is that I had a couple of spots along the scar that still gave me tiny sharp pains, but the new scar has no such issues at all. She went above and beyond what I asked for, and gave me about 85% of a perfect result. For a one-step surgery, with no secondary labiaplasty, I am very, very happy. My genital area was chopped up as an infant, my urethra was moved once already, and my vagina sewn shut, and my original labia were excised, plus my tissues are not exactly like a bio-male's tissues, so, I can't say how much of what I experienced was unique to me, or just the way such things go. They were operating on a past surgical site, with buried scarring, not virgin tissue, so as I say, my experience may be just my own..

Hope this helps!

Missy

Quote from: Jenna Marie on February 01, 2017, 01:31:12 PM
Another Brassard patient - my inner labia seem normal (thinner than my wife's). My outer labia are fairly puffy, but I recently ran across someone complaining that most GRS results show outer labia that are not puffy *enough,* so now I figure that my sense of aesthetics just differs from hers rather than this being an actual failing. My inner labia are also mucosal on the inside portion, so it may be that Brassard's technique has changed a bit since 2005. I dunno.

My inner labia are Also mucosal on the inside


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My scar is still very visible... and I still can't orgasm


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Quote from: jujubes1986 on February 01, 2017, 08:12:44 PM
My scar is still very visible... and I still can't orgasm
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Hi Jujubes!

You are just a bit over three months post-op, right?

Yeah, my clit was still numb at about five months, then it seemed like the swelling went down enough for 'yummy' messages to reach my brain. Do you still get the electric zaps and occasional pain twinges? If so, that is your nerves reconnecting and forming new connections, as the healing process continues. I had a HUGE set of zaps about half-way through my 5th month, and that seemed to be the big connection I was needing to get full-on ladywood and find the 'magic spot' that took me into toe-curling territory..

Be patient, explore the area gently, and try to focus on just enjoying the sensations without worrying yourself.  Worry has ruined more female orgasms than any ham-fisted man ever could, lol..

My scars were very obvious until about a year, it takes time, hun...

(HUGS)

Missy

Thank you Missy!
So happy your revision went well, and that you're happy.

Nina

11 yrs later and I actually, for the first time, was curious to see where exactly is my clitoris. I see the hood, I see the urethra but no sign of any clitoris. I looked at several anatomy images or diagrams so that I know where it should be but can't find it!