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Started by Roll, September 06, 2017, 02:26:59 PM

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Quote from: Gorgy_Love on October 01, 2017, 03:34:52 AM
Hi Roll! I frequent these forums quite often (MtF 20 yr old here) and oddly enough this post inspired me to make an account so I hope my advice can help a bit. So firstly idk if it was mentioned here but how old are you if you're comfortable revealing that?

So my advice is you should look into clothing styles and find inspiration you don't have to force your style into a category but frequent instagram tumblr youtube blogs etc. take quizes and find what style you relate to. .......

Sizing. So it's good to read up on male to female conversion (mind you places will differ) but as a general starter point ........

Sorry for the looong post but if you wanna talk or have any questions that I could maybe help with feel free to ask!

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Roll

Quote from: Gorgy_Love on October 01, 2017, 03:34:52 AM
Hi Roll! I frequent these forums quite often (MtF 20 yr old here) and oddly enough this post inspired me to make an account so I hope my advice can help a bit. So firstly idk if it was mentioned here but how old are you if you're comfortable revealing that?

So my advice is you should look into clothing styles and find inspiration you don't have to force your style into a category but frequent instagram tumblr youtube blogs etc. take quizes and find what style you relate to. Are you more into bohemian, grunge, hipster, casual/comfy and then you can start to try out different styles and mix and match. Who says you can't wear ripped black jeans with a floral top? (That might look like a hot mess though but fashion is what makes you feel good) Also I know it can be hard at first I ran into the problem where I would look for fashion inspiration and compare myself to cis women but if you run into that it Will get easier.

Sizing. So it's good to read up on male to female conversion (mind you places will differ) but as a general starter point for tops and shirts you have to gauge how the clothing looks and go a size or two up meaning in men's shirts if you wear a small and you see a womans top go for a medium if it looks small in person or pictures don't hesitate to go to a large or xl. A lot of the time I have to wear women's XL tops simply because my shoulders. Jeans don't go by the actual waist size it's about a 20 difference starting from 29,30. By that I mean ok I used to work at this store called Plato's Closet you should look into it if theres one nearby super super cheap used clothes but a lot of hidden gems. Generally a womens 0-24   1/2-25/26  3/4-27 5/6-28 7/8-29 9/10-30/31 and those are all give or take depending on brands which you'll become familiar with over time. In general Forever 21 clothes run small I believe american eagle runs smaller than hollister abercrombie runs small too. Some pretty good brand name places I've found gap and old navy to be pretty good with sizes and ofc shopping at certain places have more of a certain style. Aeropostale tends to be for younger teens then there's pacsun which is more west coast style. In my opinion and from my girl friends target tends to be more trendy than wal-mart but wal-mart I believe is cheaper. As far as shoes go typically theres about a 2 size difference between mens shoes. I.E. a men's 5 womens 7 and so on so if you're like me men's 11 well you do the math :p. Though if you really experiment you can find some exceptions in the majority of female shoes I would have to go size 12/13 but in quite a few shoes I've tried on in target I can fit into a size 11 women's so target really has been a godsend. You also might run into the problem with women's jeans of your feet not being able to fit through the jean/jegging whole sadly with that you either have to look for a different cut at the bottom or just look for a stretchier pair or do the wiggle dance to force yourself in.

Sorry for the looong post but if you wanna talk or have any questions that I could maybe help with feel free to ask!

First off, I have to say it is a genuinely heart warming feeling that you made an account to respond to me. :)

I'm currently 35, so sort of in what sometimes feels to be an awkward middle of the age range since it seems that the majority tend to be transitioning on the ends of the age spectrum.

I've been slowly figuring my style just looking through online stores and paying attention more closely to what I see people wearing. I definitely like the look of the sort of "cute casual". Unfortunately, pulling it off is another matter, and I'll probably have to wait until weight loss and HRT effects to be able to. So far I think what I pull off the best is what seems to be a weird combination but doesn't look too bad, in wearing that wrap around style dress I linked (and can see me in in one of the pictures) with jeggings underneath, since the dress is short enough on me it can somewhat double as a tunic type top. The complete look had a bit of a bohemian thing going, I really felt like I should be wearing oversized sunglasses with it. (Though this being my best so far is partly because that dress does an amazing job hiding shoulders/upper arm I'm sure, so I picked up some real shirts with a similar shoulder cut to try.)

I've stuck to walmart online so far just since I've got a handle on their sizing. Also, the prices. I need to get the rest of my weight off so I can start buying long term clothes badly, Even at walmart prices my wardrobe bill is starting to stack up and I'm not sure how viable some of it will even be long term. Since my original posting of this thread my desire to buy clothes has become a runaway train. I never had this problem buying mens clothes. :D

I think I'm currently at about a 9 1/2 mens shoe (the "currently" because my foot has shrunk since losing weight  ;D), so also just ordered some cheap (literally 10$) size 11s off of walmart as well. I can actually squeeze into my sister's 9 1/2 womens somehow (probably wouldn't be able to last a day in them though), so I figure trying the 11s from walmart will probably be a good starting point.

So far I think my thighs are the bigger issue for pants than feet, which doesn't bother me too much since that is actually a pretty typical issue even for cis-women and jeans/tight pants. My lower leg including feet/ankles is oddly (wonderfully?) slender, but my thighs just take all the extra fat they can get even as the rest of my thins out. One  thing I bought for example (*embarassed mumbling*bodyshaper*cough*) I can fit just fine except for actually getting it around the thigh, and a pair of jeans I tried in the semi-distant past it was the same thing. Feet and ankles went through the hole fine, it was the rest that was the problem. :D
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Lyric

Quote from: Roll on October 01, 2017, 10:20:26 AM
I think I'm currently at about a 9 1/2 mens shoe (the "currently" because my foot has shrunk since losing weight  ;D), so also just ordered some cheap (literally 10$) size 11s off of walmart as well. I can actually squeeze into my sister's 9 1/2 womens somehow (probably wouldn't be able to last a day in them though), so I figure trying the 11s from walmart will probably be a good starting point.

I've found those low price shoes from Wal-Mart can fit and look good at first, but don't last very long. I'm  a 9 1/2 D in mens' shoes, too. I've bought size 11 womens' but I need to wear think socks to keep my foot from sliding around in them. The big online sellers like Zappo's often have a good selection of size 10 1/2 womens'-- even in wide sizes. As an experiment I ordered a pair from Zappo's recently and they fit quite well. Zappo's prices run from moderate to pretty high, but they ship for free and, more importantly, pay for shipping on returns. They're not discount store prices, but it's nice to have a couple of quality items around if you're going to get serious about this stuff.
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Roll

Quote from: Lyric on October 01, 2017, 12:50:30 PM
I've found those low price shoes from Wal-Mart can fit and look good at first, but don't last very long. I'm  a 9 1/2 D in mens' shoes, too. I've bought size 11 womens' but I need to wear think socks to keep my foot from sliding around in them. The big online sellers like Zappo's often have a good selection of size 10 1/2 womens'-- even in wide sizes. As an experiment I ordered a pair from Zappo's recently and they fit quite well. Zappo's prices run from moderate to pretty high, but they ship for free and, more importantly, pay for shipping on returns. They're not discount store prices, but it's nice to have a couple of quality items around if you're going to get serious about this stuff.

I've bought from Zappos before for men's shoes, so once I know my size better I'll probably look there. Good shoes are one of those things I feel like I'm going to have to put off until coming out so I can get in person unfortunately, but in the meanwhile I'm hoping the "fall-apart-in-two-weeks" cheap shoes will last me while I'm in this initial phase.
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8/30/17 - First Therapy! The road begins in earnest.
10/20/17 - First coming out (to my father)!
12/16/17 - BEGAN HRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Roll

Again just sort of using this thread as my dumping ground for anything remotely related...

So I was sitting here just stretching out and I looked down and saw this:



Even knowing that the breasts are just rice filled hose... Even knowing my legs under the jeans are hairy and gross... The joy I felt was so intense. Just having that undeniably feminine perspective is the most incredible feeling, and yet again these simple clothing/"accessory" purchases have done so much to erase any doubts about my path. (I also am becoming really happy with my legs aside from said hair. I do need some fat off the thighs still, but in general they look way more feminine than I ever realized before.)

I feel like writing walmart a thank you note at this point. :D
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8/30/17 - First Therapy! The road begins in earnest.
10/20/17 - First coming out (to my father)!
12/16/17 - BEGAN HRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5/21/18 - FIRST DAY OUT AS ME!!!!!!!!!
6/08/18 - 2,250 Hair Grafts
6/23/18 - FIRST PRIDE!
8/06/18 - 100%, completely out!
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Roll

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! I HAVE HEELS! ... That are too loose! I'm not sure what makes me happier, having the shoes or finding out my feet are even smaller than I thought, I could have done a 10 1/2 easy and probably even a 10 based on how much wadding I had to shove back in the toe to keep them from just falling off. I feel like if feet are proportional to height (I'm really not sure that they are though?) I might actually be around the female average for 5'10, which would just be a dream come true.

And I only nearly killed myself twice wearing them! (Trying to take one off while standing on the leg with the shoe still on that foot without holding onto something... mistake. I realize that now.)

(Edit: Ohhh, https://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/womens-shoe-size-vs-height/ not scientific but pretty much shows I'm in line with a lot of women that are my height! It's these sorts of things that I'm living for right now. :D)
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(I made the s lowercase so it didn't look as much like PMS... ;D)

An Open Letter to anyone suffering from anxiety, particularly those afraid to make your first post or continue posting!

8/30/17 - First Therapy! The road begins in earnest.
10/20/17 - First coming out (to my father)!
12/16/17 - BEGAN HRT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5/21/18 - FIRST DAY OUT AS ME!!!!!!!!!
6/08/18 - 2,250 Hair Grafts
6/23/18 - FIRST PRIDE!
8/06/18 - 100%, completely out!
9/08/18 - I'M IN LOVE!!!!
2/27/19 - Name Change!

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Lyric

Quote from: Roll on October 04, 2017, 02:26:23 PM
And I only nearly killed myself twice wearing them!

The generally recommended way to walk in heels is to place one foot before the other like you're walking on a line. You want to keep your body very straight, too. Search YouTube for "walking in heels" and you'll probably find several good tutes on it.
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Artesia

Quote from: Lyric on October 04, 2017, 07:42:33 PM
The generally recommended way to walk in heels is to place one foot before the other like you're walking on a line. You want to keep your body very straight, too. Search YouTube for "walking in heels" and you'll probably find several good tutes on it.

I guess I am a fortunate girl.  I took to heels like a fish to water.  Just don't ask me to run in them.  Stairs, carpet, rug, tile, even soft dirt, no problems.  Made my wife mad, because she can't walk in heels, and she's been trying for nearly 48 years.  I am a touch slower, in heels, than my natural pace.  My wife can keep up with me when I'm in heels.
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elkie-t

Quote from: Lyric on October 04, 2017, 07:42:33 PM
The generally recommended way to walk in heels is to place one foot before the other like you're walking on a line. You want to keep your body very straight, too. Search YouTube for "walking in heels" and you'll probably find several good tutes on it.
My recommendation is to take shorter steps. And keep balance of the balls of the feet, not on the heels. Placing one foot in front of the other might work on a red carpet, but not while walking home from a party on very uneven surface. Keep it simple :) Short steps, boobs out, head high, smile on the face.
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