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Guy logic - lesbian trans okay, straight not

Started by CallMeKatie, March 12, 2018, 11:24:17 AM

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warlockmaker

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It must be something that is peculier to the West. In Asia, especially Thailand, it does not not matter. I have men hitting on me knowing I am, by reputation a tg female. I have dated men professing their love for me and its not only me, but my other local tg friends also. Most tg girls here are not lesbian. Many are getting married. Strangly, many with western men. Maybe its the western men living in the West and feeling pressure from their western  peers, that makes them put up a front.

Of course being gay here is no big deal either.
When we first start our journey the perception and moral values all dramatically change in wonderment. As we evolve further it all becomes normal again but the journey has changed us forever.

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CincySixx

As sad or annoying as it may be...
I do understand the logic.
I mean in romance we all have preferences and maybe it is sad...
But it could have been any other way as well.

   I personally prefer women but had any of my partners just *poof*
Woke up male i would have loved them still.
For me our bodies are just the vessels we make.
Our souls are always the same <3

We are just n a category where we are fragile and people are very misinformed,
And its not necessarily their fault.
Love is love and we all have preferences,
But love also has a way of confronting us,
Afterall its one of the most powerful forces.
Love. Attraction. <3

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pamelatransuk

Hello Warlockmaker

It must be wonderful living in a place like Thailand where gender is not an issue like it is in the West.

Interesting that most MTFs there you say are not lesbian.

I get the impression from reading so many posts on this website (which mainly covers US, Canada, UK & Australia) that lesbian or asexual MTFs outnumber the straight or bisexual ones.

Pamela


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CincySixx

Quote from: pamelatransuk on March 13, 2018, 08:07:40 AM
Hello Warlockmaker

It must be wonderful living in a place like Thailand where gender is not an issue like it is in the West.

Interesting that most MTFs there you say are not lesbian.

I get the impression from reading so many posts on this website (which mainly covers US, Canada, UK & Australia) that lesbian or asexual MTFs outnumber the straight or bisexual ones.

Pamela

  Id just as easily have sex with a man i just...
Never have xD <3
Plus maybe its that western influence subconsciously pulling me one way.
But we're all people and we all want love <3

Lol.
<3
Cincy

Finally being embraced at work!~
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Together that we learn how to fly!~"💛
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Paige

I wonder if this is some form of narcissism.  A lot of people can't see past their own nose or their own feelings.

Years ago, a gay friend of mine couldn't accept that some people were bisexual.  He thought they were just afraid to be honest with themselves that they were gay.  He was 100% gay and assumed every other gay or bisexual person would have the same attractions as him.  He had a masters in psychology by the way. 

Take care,
Paige :)
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warlockmaker

Pamela, I am equally suprised that tgs in the west are mostly lesbians. Many men here prefer tg women, claiming better communication and understanding. Older men like us because we are tighter and sexually more satisfying. I started with younger men and now kinda like older confident men. Finally, we are alot more interesting and  beautiful than most cis women of equivalent age.
When we first start our journey the perception and moral values all dramatically change in wonderment. As we evolve further it all becomes normal again but the journey has changed us forever.

SRS January 21st,  2558 (Buddhist calander), 2015
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Daisy Jane

People were shocked when told them I was still interested in women. Most people in the US seem to think only gay men want to transition to women.
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Julia1996

I decided to ask my dad and get his reaction. I asked him what he would think if I decided I was lesbian and what he thought about trans women who were lesbian. He said he didn't have a problem with anyone's sexual preference but that in my case he said he would have a hard time getting used to it. He said it wasn't a matter of accepting it, it was just that I had always been so boy crazy and liked guys so much that I wouldn't seem like me if I started dating girls. I think like Katie said guys go along with it being better for transwomen to be lesbian because they are in a group. I don't think they necessarily believe it. Guys are weird about lesbians though. Most straight guys think lesbian sex is very hot. I don't understand why but they do. Tristan and I were talking about bi people once and I asked him if he would approve if I was bi. He said he totally would and that it would be really hot to watch me with another girl. Yeah, ok. Ewww!
Julia


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Laurel D

Quote from: CallMeKatie on March 12, 2018, 11:24:17 AM
Talking to some work colleagues about ->-bleeped-<-. It's a topic I am easily able to bring up.

After some discussion it's clear. If a MTF transitions and she still likes girls, that is okay, she is a lesbian. If she transitions and likes guys it's "unatural and weird"

I'm in that lesbian group but it makes me wonder if they genuinely belive that or that they are just afraid of maybe meeting a trans woman who likes men then they feel they have to question their sexuality.
Its the whole "gay" issue.
The male ego is very fragile. So yes, it's the homophobia that scares them the most. ( Even though if there attracted to a transwomen, it's because they like women.)

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Laurel D

Quote from: BT04 on March 12, 2018, 01:39:44 PM
WAY too many dudes are insecure in their masculinity. Talk about precious snowflakes and fragile, blossoming flowers... they're as sensitive as a certain president's skin is orange!
Exactly. The male ego is very fragile.

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Allison S

Who cares? No one's sexuality is based on their preference. If it was I'm sure my tongue would be down some girls mouth right now but guess what. it's not! Lol

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Cassi

Quote from: Daisy Jane on March 13, 2018, 07:17:00 PM
People were shocked when told them I was still interested in women. Most people in the US seem to think only gay men want to transition to women.

Nice new Avatar pic Daisy Jane!
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Daisy Jane

Quote from: Cassi on March 13, 2018, 10:35:00 PM
Nice new Avatar pic Daisy Jane!

Thank you darlin'! :) That last picture was nine months old and I just got a fresh cut yesterday.
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Cassi

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Lady Sarah

Quote from: Julia1996 on March 13, 2018, 08:04:30 PM
I decided to ask my dad and get his reaction. I asked him what he would think if I decided I was lesbian and what he thought about trans women who were lesbian. He said he didn't have a problem with anyone's sexual preference but that in my case he said he would have a hard time getting used to it. He said it wasn't a matter of accepting it, it was just that I had always been so boy crazy and liked guys so much that I wouldn't seem like me if I started dating girls. I think like Katie said guys go along with it being better for transwomen to be lesbian because they are in a group. I don't think they necessarily believe it. Guys are weird about lesbians though. Most straight guys think lesbian sex is very hot. I don't understand why but they do. Tristan and I were talking about bi people once and I asked him if he would approve if I was bi. He said he totally would and that it would be really hot to watch me with another girl. Yeah, ok. Ewww!

Guy that like lesbian porn enjoy it, because they think seeing a man's penis might make him appear gay. And, they get to enjoy seeing the female bits of multiple women.
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orchi: December 23, 1994
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CallMeKatie

Quote from: Lady Sarah on March 14, 2018, 12:45:23 PM
Guy that like lesbian porn enjoy it, because they think seeing a man's penis might make him appear gay. And, they get to enjoy seeing the female bits of multiple women.

As my zen-like work colleagues say
What's better than a naked woman? Two naked women.

I don't think seeing a penis even comes into it, it's just straight men like naked women so if there are two or more that is better. :)
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Cassi

Quote from: CallMeKatie on March 14, 2018, 01:14:58 PM
As my zen-like work colleagues say
What's better than a naked woman? Two naked women.

I don't think seeing a penis even comes into it, it's just straight men like naked women so if there are two or more that is better. :)

Personally, I never had any desire to watch some guy doing it.  Kinda like an armchair you know what :)
HRT since 1/04/2018
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