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Androgynees and Pronouns - He or She Preference

Started by Nero, March 07, 2008, 03:52:34 PM

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Simone Louise

Thank you, Jaimey, and thank you, Rebis. I guess part of this journey is learning to be vulnerable and to accept support. But I'm not going to cry.  ;) Even if you beat me up!

How about I make you each a nice cup of tea when this is all over. And a bit to nosh.

Let's form a big circle and hold hands,
Simone
Choose life.
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tekla

Let's form a big circle and hold hands,

Oh god, do we have to sing Kumbaya too?  I swear the next person who starts singing Michael Row The Boat Ashore is going to need a lifevest.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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sd

Quote from: tekla on March 12, 2008, 10:48:21 PM
Oh god, do we have to sing Kumbaya too?  I swear the next person who starts singing Michael Row The Boat Ashore is going to need a lifevest.
Should I toss in the shark bait before or after?
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tekla

FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Shana A

Quote from: tekla on March 12, 2008, 10:48:21 PM
Let's form a big circle and hold hands,

Oh god, do we have to sing Kumbaya too?  I swear the next person who starts singing Michael Row The Boat Ashore is going to need a lifevest.

Hey, I see a big circle and I'm ready to play some funky Balkan tune in 11/8 or 7/8 for a circle dance  ;) ;D

Quote from: Simone Louise on March 12, 2008, 10:33:30 PM

How about I make you each a nice cup of tea when this is all over. And a bit to nosh.

A nosh, now you're speaking my language... some sesame bagels maybe would be nice  :D

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Seshatneferw

Quote from: Zythyra on March 13, 2008, 07:16:21 AM
Hey, I see a big circle and I'm ready to play some funky Balkan tune in 11/8 or 7/8 for a circle dance  ;) ;D

In the mixolydian mode, preferably.

  Nfr
Whoopee! Man, that may have been a small one for Neil, but it's a long one for me.
-- Pete Conrad, Apollo XII
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Simone Louise

Quote from: Zythyra on March 13, 2008, 07:16:21 AM

A nosh, now you're speaking my language... some sesame bagels maybe would be nice  :D

Z

Bagels are good. Do you know schnecken? For the uninitiated, the name means snail, and they are a form of cinnamon/pecan roll. I've a nice recipe out of the Settlement Cookbook.

As for the circle, how about the Shaker hymn, 'Tis a gift to be simple? I'm not dancing until the catheter comes out. I'm a pretty clumsy dancer, anyway, though folk dancing reminds me of an early androgenous moment. I was learning square dancing after school, and most weeks took the female role because we had unequal gender numbers. I don't know why I was chosen. The culmination was a performance for the PTA. In the middle of the performance, I suddenly reverted to the role I had learned, and then to turn red as a beet.

Simone
Choose life.
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Jaimey

Quote from: tekla on March 12, 2008, 10:48:21 PM
Let's form a big circle and hold hands,

Oh god, do we have to sing Kumbaya too?

I went to Camp Kumbaya.  Seriously. 

Quote from: Zythyra on March 13, 2008, 07:16:21 AM
Hey, I see a big circle and I'm ready to play some funky Balkan tune in 11/8 or 7/8 for a circle dance  ;) ;D

That reminds me of a warm up we played in drumline called 5-7-10.  It was my favorite, so bring on the 11/8 and 7/8!

We played "Simple Gifts" for a half time show in band too...weird.
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Lokaeign

For me it kind of depends.  Online I get read as male a lot because that's the default, and there's this little stab of joy when someone refers to me with a male pronoun even though I know it's nothing to do with me, it's just some random assumption.  But then I feel I have to correct people's understanding that I'm a guy so as not to re-enforce the male normativity of some environments.  Female pronouns just bleh me out.  Sometimes a person will refer to me as "she" or correct someone else when they "he" me, and I don't feel able to address that because I know they're atually trying to help and hold space, even though I die a little bit every time.  I like it when someone in the know "he"s me, because they're affirming that element of my nature.

Mostly I'm lying low in Sheville for the moment.  I feel like I ought to use my preferred epicine terms "ze" and "hir" a bit more, but it's only relatively recently that the internal gender struggle has been a public thing and it feels precious to start insisting on it.  Especially since a lot of the time I don't feel like a he, a she or a ze, I just feel like an it.
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tekla

Simple Gifts is OK, perhaps one of the best American songs ever, which is why its so central to the Ballet for Martha - better known, as Appalachian Spring.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Jaimey

Quote from: tekla on May 21, 2008, 07:21:01 PM
Simple Gifts is OK, perhaps one of the best American songs ever, which is why its so central to the Ballet for Martha - better known, as Appalachian Spring.

I liked that one a lot.  My friend Davis shred some serious xylophone on that song.
If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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Kinkly

I look he so thats what i expect
sometimes people have called me she which I love although If they apologize and correct themselves i tell them i'm happy to be called she

not long ago i was doing crafty stuff with some girls (jewelery making / beading i think) and we were talking when one of the girls asked "are you sure your a guy?"
that seemed weird but felt great
I turned it into a joke and some were laughing uncontrollably at my response 
I don't want to be a man there from Mars
I'd Like to be a woman Venus looks beautiful
I'm enjoying living on Pluto, but it is a bit lonely
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