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What does it feel like to be a woman?

Started by LucyEgo, June 14, 2018, 03:01:13 AM

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LucyEgo

OMG. Existential crisis or what?

I woke up today feeling pretty miserable, wondering if I really am transgender. I mean, for all my wants to explore and hopefully one day transition, I don't feel any different. Being a woman is more than just having a vagina and wearing a dress. How do women feel? Do I feel like that? Do I? Am I the biggest fraud in history?

Lucy
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LucyEgo

If I feel female?

What is it I feel? I look like a man. I sound like a man. I have a penis. I have horrible hair on my face. Every day is tiring and exhausting. I don't want to do this anymore. I've had enough. But I don't know what I feel or how I feel. Am I comfortable in my own skin? To a point. Yes. I think. Am I happy in my skin? No. If I could change tomorrow? Yes. Yes I would.

Should I change? I don't know. What does it feel like to be a woman. What do women think? Sure, I wear mens clothes and I have a penis. But these are all external signs. I could change tomorrow, wear womens clothes, have a vagina and breasts. But what if my inside doesn't match my outside? What is inside?

I was hoping for some kind of light bulb moment, some change in thinking, or a way of looking at things, that I could say, yes, that's it... that's the inward female... It wouldn't matter what's on me, because I would know who I am inside and that would be all the proof.

I could quite easily say though - what does it feel like to be a man? Sure I have all the external signs, I sound like one, look like one. I even engage in some male pursuits as it is expected. If someone said we can take away those thoughts and make you a man - would I go for it? Probably not. If I had no gender and got given a choice. I'd be a woman.

But I know I'll miss my male friendships.
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Devlyn

Remember there are more choices than male or female. Gender is a spectrum, not a switch.

Hugs, Devlyn
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SadieBlake

I can only speak to what being female feels like to me. I never doubted from the time I realized I am trans until I started hrt that I'm actually female, however finally starting estrogen was a huge "aha" moment for me and is for most women (I had a wonderful long talk after pride with a woman who'd just started her a month ago, it was good to hear her talking about the feelings that came up and I was able to answer her questions about physical effects, boob growth etc).

Being female isn't always easy, it carries it's own challenges ... I sometimes wish now I could more easily hold my emotions back, just as before HRT I wished I weren't prone to serious anger.

Consider starting hormones. Also don't take that devlyn in the corner too seriously, being relatively binary female is just fine also.
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Sienna Grace

I used to describe it as wanting the eyes that look out, to match the eyes that look back when I look in the mirror. After a year of HRT and T blockers I feel that is starting to happen.

For me there has never been an "ah ha" moment. Rather it has been a series of small realisations that amongst all the pain and confusion that has been my life as a male, I now just feel right. I no longer feel like a freak dressing in women's clothes. That said, the essence of me has not changed. Nor do I expect it ever will.

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pamelatransuk

No Lucy you are most certainly NOT a fraud.

Cis people do not spend time thinking about gender - only transgender people do. Clearly to me you are transgender but a therapist should provide further evidence as you explore if you still have doubts.

I believe you are transgender and of course a woman.

Finally don't worry about this too much as we all have doubts at time  - it is natural to be cautious over such a major event.

Wishing you happiness

Hugs

Pamela


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KathyLauren

While some trans folks say they "feel" their gender, there are many of us who don't.  I have no idea what "male" feels like, nor what "female" feels like.  I only know what I feel like: I feel like me.  I have nothing to which to compare the feeling of being me.  I don't have a male "before" and female "after" to compare, since biology tells us that gender has a biological basis: I have always been female, I just didn't realize it.

I only know that, since I started transitioning, I feel happier about myself.  I was asocial before, now, I happily mingle with other women, though I still have a lot to learn about the way women process interactions.  I feel like a huge weight has lifted from my shoulders.

It is normal to have doubts.  We all have them.  One of the best things about transitioning is that it helps you to remove some of the doubts.  Unfortunately, that is something you can only experience after you have started.

My doubts, when they arrive, are usually along the lines of "Life would have been so much simpler if I wasn't transitioning.  So maybe I'm not really trans."  But there are a few things I tell myself to get past them:
- Simpler does not mean happier.  I am definitely happier now.
- I was not able to stop cross-dressing pre-transition.  It was a need, not a want.
- Never in my life, not a single time, did I ever wish to be more masculine.  On the contrary, I always wanted to be more feminine.
- Even when I thought I was a guy, I wanted to be a "soft" (i.e. feminine) male.

Those are all facts that, even when things get confusing, I cannot deny.  They all point to the same conclusion.

You might want to try making a list of similar signs for yourself, to help you weather the doubts.  As you progress and accumulate experiences, your doubts will grow fewer.  Remember that cisgender people almost never thing about their gender.  Trans people are almost always thinking about it.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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MissyMay2.0

...I can't describe it; I just am. Some things you just know, and if you feel that you are truly a woman then you are. I recommend being realistic about transitioning though; HRT feminizes us, but it has a lot of limitations, almost all of us require facial hair removal, and a lot of us decide to have FFS, breast augmentation, and other feminizing surgeries, because HRT doesn't do enough to feminize us on it's own.
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LucyEgo

Thanks Kathy, and thank you everyone. Truly this is a wonderful community. I will be having my first chat with Gender GP in a few days. Excited.

As you yourself say Kathy, there's no part of me that wishes I was more masculine. It's completely foreign to me. My lack of dating also indicates a low desire for a male/female relationship, unless maybe the roles were reversed. I've cut my hair short and tried growing a beard. Yes. That's the height of my masculinity. But it's not me. I'm a delicate flower as some of my friends have said.

So if I want to take steps in transitioning, what's a good pathway? I'm considering anti androgens as a starter, but I'm not after taking anything you can't reverse. I guess I should look at some clothes, and perhaps try the cross dressing to see how I feel.

Scary but exciting.

Lucy
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Amaki

I cant say this is the answer for everyone, but for me what does it feel like to be truly happy, I was born male, I still present as male (after 30 years) but ive never been happy with who I was yes I have my doubts, but I know this is the right path and ive known for a while just didnt know how to get there.

From talking with people and reading what others have wrote, you dont need to feel externally anything. You need to feel good about yourself and happy if it feels like youve taken a backseat in your own life something is wrong. You shouldnt have to live with depression and I promise everyone here from the youngest to the oldest has felt some depression (thats kind of in the title of Gender Dysphoria lol) Ultimately only you can tell if this is the right path.

People are so worried about burning bridges they forget about the burning road they are on...   

Quote from: LucyEgo on June 14, 2018, 11:27:54 AM
Thanks Kathy, and thank you everyone. Truly this is a wonderful community. I will be having my first chat with Gender GP in a few days. Excited.

As you yourself say Kathy, there's no part of me that wishes I was more masculine. It's completely foreign to me. My lack of dating also indicates a low desire for a male/female relationship, unless maybe the roles were reversed. I've cut my hair short and tried growing a beard. Yes. That's the height of my masculinity. But it's not me. I'm a delicate flower as some of my friends have said.

So if I want to take steps in transitioning, what's a good pathway? I'm considering anti androgens as a starter, but I'm not after taking anything you can't reverse. I guess I should look at some clothes, and perhaps try the cross dressing to see how I feel.

Scary but exciting.

Lucy

life is scary but taking that first step is important too
If life is too short for what ifs, than way do they always strike at the worse times.

Most people are worried about burning bridges, but forget about the consistent fire that burns on the roads we walk

In the end we only regret the chances we didnt take. -Lewis Carroll

Feel free to call me Sophia Lee if you want

The journey may not be new but its a new journey.

16 Apr 2018 - Start of a new chapter
8 Jun 2018- VA is working with me to move forward
11 Jul 2018 - consultation with Psych doctor
14 Jul 2018 - Dad confronted me...
7 Aug 2018 - Started HRT
25 Oct 2018 - Started Speech Therapy
24 Apr 2019 - Official name is Sophia Lee Bell

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krobinson103

I have to say I've never felt 'male' or 'female' I've felt like me. Before when my body didn't match I was rather unhappy with life. Now that the inside and the outside (mostly) match and there is a path forward I'm a happy me.

I wear womens clothes, have a more feminine body and my thought patterns are certainly different. even then I don't think I could pin down a definitive list of things that define being a women. I think its an exercise in over thinking. Live in the moment and celebrate life.
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Every day provides opportunities and challenges
Every challenge leads to an opportunity
Every fear faced leads to one more strength
Every strength leads to greater success
Success leads to self esteem
Self Esteem leads to happiness.
Cherish every day.
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Michelle_P

It's really hard to describe how I feel.  If I were in some game character editor, being able to say "I'm +2 Healer and +1 Mana User, and -3 Rampager" might be a way to go at it, but I'm not.

When I was pretending to be a male I was in a state of constant anxiety, worried that someone might see through me, constantly double-checking my speech and movement to make sure I was doing 'Guy'.  I had learned growing up that this was important, and failing to do this was punished severely.

Now that I've stopped hiding and am just being myself, I feel intense relief, am much more at ease, and can actually be happy and express myself in words and emotions.  I feel right, and honest with myself and the world.

Does that help?
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KathyLauren

Quote from: LucyEgo on June 14, 2018, 11:27:54 AM
Thanks Kathy, and thank you everyone. Truly this is a wonderful community. I will be having my first chat with Gender GP in a few days. Excited.

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So if I want to take steps in transitioning, what's a good pathway? I'm considering anti androgens as a starter, but I'm not after taking anything you can't reverse. I guess I should look at some clothes, and perhaps try the cross dressing to see how I feel.

Scary but exciting.

Lucy

That's great that you will be seeing GenderGP soon.  Definitely something to get excited about.  You don't want to be on blockers only for very long.  The human body needs sex hormones (either T or E will do) for good bone health.  That is why post-menopausal cis women are prone to osteoporosis.  But that is something to talk over with your doctor.
2015-07-04 Awakening; 2015-11-15 Out to self; 2016-06-22 Out to wife; 2016-10-27 First time presenting in public; 2017-01-20 Started HRT!!; 2017-04-20 Out publicly; 2017-07-10 Legal name change; 2019-02-15 Approval for GRS; 2019-08-02 Official gender change; 2020-03-11 GRS; 2020-09-17 New birth certificate
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pamelatransuk

Lucy

As I said on the "Counselling" thread, I am so glad you contacted GenderGP. You have made the right decision.

They will give you really good advice both in terms of therapy and in terms of HRT if you desire the latter.

Good luck.

Pamela


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Sno

Well my darling, if I knew that, I would be able to answer a simple yes or no to womanhood. All that I do know though is that I am not man, and sometimes not woman, and often that makes me feel really bad about myself.

But then chocolate. It is the answer.

Rowan
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LucyEgo

I've just spent the best part of a morning looking at the shape and size of my skull. I feel my chin is quite pointy, my jaw now very pronounced and not much of a brow ridge. Nose is a bit large as are my eye brows.

Sat in Starbucks watching the world go by, looking at people's faces, features and dimensions. I feel silly.

I'd love if there was somewhere in this forum I could post pictures privately to get feedback. Not ready to come out yet, needy mind publicly.

Lucy
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krobinson103

Quote from: LucyEgo on June 15, 2018, 06:43:23 AM
I've just spent the best part of a morning looking at the shape and size of my skull. I feel my chin is quite pointy, my jaw now very pronounced and not much of a brow ridge. Nose is a bit large as are my eye brows.

Sat in Starbucks watching the world go by, looking at people's faces, features and dimensions. I feel silly.

I'd love if there was somewhere in this forum I could post pictures privately to get feedback. Not ready to come out yet, needy mind publicly.

Lucy

The chat section of this website has options for private chat where you could share photos with someone and get feedback if that is your wish. It happens quite often actually. :)
Every day is a totally awesome day
Every day provides opportunities and challenges
Every challenge leads to an opportunity
Every fear faced leads to one more strength
Every strength leads to greater success
Success leads to self esteem
Self Esteem leads to happiness.
Cherish every day.
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Miss Clara

Being raised a boy and living most of my life as a man conditioned me to think I was, even though my true subconscious sex has always been female.  The effect is powerful.  Since I began my gender transition five years ago, that conditioning has faded away almost entirely.  I'll be honest and say that having people perceive and treat me as female has been very helpful in erasing the stubborn remnants of masculine identity that interfered with my ability to develop and enjoy my true personality.  But today, I'm still the same person inside that I always was.  Shedding the masculine veneer doesn't change your core identity.  I was always a woman inside, and transitioning gave me the freedom to be my true self openly.  Having doubts before and during those early days of transition is not uncommon, and it's important to resolve major doubts before committing to irreversible sex/gender changes.  Most people seek the guidance of a gender therapist to sort out questions and concerns they have about their gender identity.  As a general rule, if you are not sure transition is what you need and want, you shouldn't begin that process until you are. 
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LucyEgo

I'll check out this chat section. Thanks.

Well I had my first Gender GP session yesterday. Seemed to go well. There does seem to be a large possibility that I am actually transgender. I've told a few friends about my curiosity and they totally support me which is good.

I think one thing that comes out of all this... Are these feelings just a distraction or genuine? Like is the thought of suicide ideation or is the threat real? I'm not suicidal, but you get my point.

I'm beginning to realise it's genuine.

Now I got to figure out how much dysphoria there is and what to do about it. I feel like I should discuss an action plan with my GP.

My only concern with GenderGP, is that the counselor was talking to agree to a block of ten and that I'm now to pay her directly and not Gender GP? Is that normal?

Lucy
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Allison S



Quote from: MissyMay2.0 on June 14, 2018, 11:22:59 AM
...I can't describe it; I just am. Some things you just know, and if you feel that you are truly a woman then you are. I recommend being realistic about transitioning though; HRT feminizes us, but it has a lot of limitations, almost all of us require facial hair removal, and a lot of us decide to have FFS, breast augmentation, and other feminizing surgeries, because HRT doesn't do enough to feminize us on it's own.

Some women never had surgery and at 2-3 years are passable. A lot has to do with hair styling and clothing, too. Even some pre hrt women, particularly in the U.K., are very feminine and haven't had surgeries.
I don't think makeup is the winner's door to passing either.
And I think surgery is very delicate and not just an overnight fix.
Just my 2 cents, I veered off topic but I agree with the rest of your post.

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