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Does it ever bother you that you will never be cis?

Started by Charlie Nicki, September 01, 2018, 10:57:22 AM

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Sinclair

At times it does bother me a bit. But, thinking about Aunt Flo visiting every month keeps me ok with who I am. Cis-male junk is pretty much maintenance free and once you transition, although you will have the physical aspects of a vagina, you will have none of the burdens cis-females have. Makes me respect cis-females more and balance my views.

I have often thought how wonderful it must be for young cis-females to watch their bodies develop into the most perfect human form, which is female IMHO.  :icon_chick: Then they get Aunt Flo, can get pregnant and have to pass a small watermelon through a fairly tight space ... and breast cancer concerns, etc.

So, the bottom line for me is sometimes I feel like a pretender because I know I will never experience the downside of being cis-female. But, I balance that with the joy I get when experiencing the up side, which is all the wonderful changes that happen with HRT. :)

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pamelatransuk

Quote from: zamber74 on September 02, 2018, 12:18:17 PM
I'm incredibly introverted, a lot of things that people do, just does not make sense to me.  Most people are very social creatures, while I am not.  I almost feel alien at times. 

Everyone seems to want to impress one another, it seems to be an important part of our society, while I would rather just be left alone by society to live my own life.

When I envision myself eventually transitioning, I mostly think of just being comfortable in my own body.  I don't have an urge to be part of social circles, or to hang out with the girls on a fun night out.  I would probably still play around a lot on the Internet like I do now, I would have the same hobbies, etc.   I will still prefer to live my life in relative isolation.  I don't think that is normal in western societies.

So, I'm not happy with my body.  But I don't really want to have the life that I often see portrayed in movies or shows of your typical CIS girl.  I would want to have a CIS female body, mostly just so I felt comfortable in my own skin, and it is depressing that I don't.

I agree with this. I am on HRT 7 months and will be publicly transitioning in 2019. I am introvert but hopefully not introspective. I like limited sociability only and generally am happy in my own company and believe my interests and hobbies will remain mostly the same.

Yes I would love to have been born cisfemale such that so many years would not have been preoccupied with GD but also so that I could have lived as a little girl and later developed gradually both physically and emotionally into a woman. However that was not to be as I like so many others, were dealt the wrong cards. There is nothing I can do about it as we cannot travel back in time to change my conception and 9 months later my birth.

So it is yes and no. Yes it does bother me at times but No we must not dwell on it.

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Mika-chan

Sometimes it does bother me, yes.

I'm really just starting this journey into womanhood, but there are aspects to being cis that I wish I could have.

I for one do wish that I could have a uterus, get pregnant, and have kids that way. But it sadly isn't possible with where medical science is at the moment.

I also worry that I won't really be seen as a real girl, and I won't be as accepted as I hope to be. I'm still in the closet with my family for example. I don't know if my mom will ever really see me as her oldest daughter and not her oldest son.
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4A-GZE

I'm more upset that I will never have been cis. I'm 23. I'm still young. But I feel like I have no childhood. I was raised a boy. Things would have been different, for better or worse, and I can't shake that. No matter where I go from here, it's not where I'm meant to be.
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Complete

23 :o! I was recovering from srs at 23. Why not stop being unhappy because things are not as you woul'd like and intead, work towards making things the way you want them to be.
The past is done over history.  Nothing can be done about the past. The future however is all yours. Own it. Take control over it. Make it what you want it to be.
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DustKitten

I try to focus more on the advantages than what I'm missing out on. I'll never have to worry about getting pregnant, suffering through periods, or hitting menopause. I don't want to have kids, so aside from spending my first 25 years as a guy, I'm not missing out on much.

Alright, sure, 25 years of silent, confused suffering and anxiety sounds bad, but it's in the past. Hakuna Matata.
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Complete

Quote from: DustKitten on September 03, 2018, 11:24:35 AM
I try to focus more on the advantages than what I'm missing out on. I'll never have to worry about getting pregnant, suffering through periods, or hitting menopause. I don't want to have kids, so aside from spending my first 25 years as a guy, I'm not missing out on much.

Alright, sure, 25 years of silent, confused suffering and anxiety sounds bad, but it's in the past. Hakuna Matata.

You're right not having to worry about an unexpected or unplanned for pregnancy allows for much more opportunities to explore the joys of connecting with the opposite sex. No need for pills or other birthday control. Also one can enjoy greater freedom in relationships and career choices.
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Karen_A

Quote from: Complete on September 03, 2018, 12:32:46 PM
You're right not having to worry about an unexpected or unplanned for pregnancy allows for much more opportunities to explore the joys of connecting with the opposite sex. No need for pills or other birthday control.

Not for pregnancy... but given that STD diagnoses have reached record levels in the US, insisting on condom use is still important.

- karen
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Sephirah

Quote from: Charlie Nicki on September 01, 2018, 10:57:22 AM
How do you cope with these feelings?

I remove the prefix "Cis". That's how I cope with them. That's really the only way I cope with them. I don't like differentiating between how I have lived and how natal women have lived. I've done it. Yeesh have I done it. Like you, I've gone through the same gamut of emotion, of regrets, of wishing that my life could have been so different. Of realising that my life will be different, because of something that happened when I was born. Something I had no control over.

But I cope by trying to hold on to the understanding that different doesn't have to mean worse. Different doesn't have to make me anything less than anyone else. 7.2 billion people in the world. 7.2 billion different lives, different experiences. Different journeys through a sometimes messy, sometimes complicated, sometimes awesome existence.

I may not be Cis, but I am no less a woman than any other woman on the planet. I may not have the anatomy, but I have the psychology, the attitude, and perhaps most importantly of all, the emotional connection to who I am. That's what keeps me going. However I look, whatever I have to do, whatever I go through in life, that's the one constant. The one thing which doesn't change. And that's really how I cope with it. I may not have the same life as other women. I may not have had the same life as other women. But other women don't have the same lives as other women, either. For all the similarities between people, there are just as many differences.

In all the ways that matter, I am as much me as if I'd been shoved out when I was born and the doc had said "Congratulations, it's a girl." That's what I try to hold on to, that's what keeps me going. The things that have happened in my life and the things I've had to deal with, I think they have happened for a reason. To make me who I am. The things I will have to deal with... no, they may sometimes not be what I want. Things may be painful, or confusing, or awkward... or awesome, or teach me something I never knew... but I believe stuff happens for a reason.

There was a time I wanted to be normal. But now I just want to be me. Someone once said to me that if you think someone is normal, you just haven't known them long enough, lol. And that's kinda true. Everyone is their own shade of unique. There's nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all. Coming to terms with that is what's let me come to terms with a lot of my feelings about how I was born, and how my life is likely to go.

That's how I cope with it. :)
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Tamika Olivia

Nah, cis people are boring. I love them, but they understand, like, so little about their genders and their privileges.

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Ryuichi13

Quote from: Tamika Olivia on September 03, 2018, 10:16:43 PM
Nah, cis people are boring. I love them, but they understand, like, so little about their genders and their privileges.

SO TRUE! 

But at least we don't take privileges for granted, right? ;)

Ryuichi


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Michelle_P

Quote from: Tamika Olivia on September 03, 2018, 10:16:43 PM
Nah, cis people are boring. I love them, but they understand, like, so little about their genders and their privileges.

Indeed.

We who have seen inside, and have transcended gender know and understand truths that others dare not even admit exist.

Whole empires of reasoning have been constructed on what we few know are not truths, but the sands of false assumptions.  Those few invested in these empires who grasp what we know fear us and our knowledge of these sands.

It does not bother me that I know these truths, nor does it bother me that I cannot claim the dubious innocence of ignorance.

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Sabrina Rei

I think it would if I were younger and had not already sired a child but I've lived a good life, and there are many women who can't tick the standard cisgender boxes who don't have gender dysphoria. Women who can't have children. Women who lose their breasts to cancer. Women who go bald. Women for whom vaginal sex is too painful to engage in. They are no less women because of their impairments. As Jack Sparrow says, "there's only what a (wo)man can do, and what a (wo)man can't do." To get bogged down in the details is to lose sight of the goal.

Northern Star Girl

Quote from: Michelle_P on September 04, 2018, 09:39:03 AM
Indeed.

We who have seen inside, and have transcended gender know and understand truths that others dare not even admit exist.

Whole empires of reasoning have been constructed on what we few know are not truths, but the sands of false assumptions.  Those few invested in these empires who grasp what we know fear us and our knowledge of these sands.

It does not bother me that I know these truths, nor does it bother me that I cannot claim the dubious innocence of ignorance.


@Michelle_P
Dear Michelle:
Very, very, very nicely stated, my feelings exactly.

Frankly, being a transwoman and not being cis-female is quite an advantage, I have the insight, experience and the knowledge of when I was a male ....  I know precisely how men think (or at least how I was thinking as a man) and now I can see and anticipate that kind of thinking when I am approached by men.   

I am obviously missing however the life long experiences of being a female subjected to men's actions but I am learning quite quickly...  I have the good fortune of having many cis-female very good friends to act as my "body guards" and my guides... which I consider a very good thing indeed!!!!

Thank you for posting your wisdom... as you always seem to do quite eloquently.

Hugs and well wishes for a speedy recovery from your surgery.
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Jennifer M

Yes. It bothers and disturbs me greatly.

Quote from: zamber74 on September 02, 2018, 12:18:17 PM
I don't think I'll ever be normal, but it does bother me that I don't have a body that is inline with how I feel.  I mean, even if I were to have a CIS female body right now, I would not be normal.. I would be a lot happier, but I don't think it is possible for me not to be weird.  I'm incredibly introverted, a lot of things that people do, just does not make sense to me.  Most people are very social creatures, while I am not.  I almost feel alien at times. 

...

When I envision myself eventually transitioning, I mostly think of just being comfortable in my own body.  I don't have an urge to be part of social circles, or to hang out with the girls on a fun night out.  I would probably still play around a lot on the Internet like I do now, I would have the same hobbies, etc.   I will still prefer to live my life in relative isolation.  I don't think that is normal in western societies.

So, I'm not happy with my body.  But I don't really want to have the life that I often see portrayed in movies or shows of your typical CIS girl.  I would want to have a CIS female body, mostly just so I felt comfortable in my own skin, and it is depressing that I don't.

That is so much like me.

I desperately wanted to develop into womanhood. I dreamed of being a mom with a handful of kids. Knowing that I will never have my own babies is depressing. I would take decades of visits from Aunt Flo over going bald. I would trade 10 inches of height for femininity in a heartbeat.

I could/would say I was "socialized" as male, but that's kind of a lie since I have no socialization skills whatsoever. I dream of being "one of the girls" but know I wouldn't be good at the banter women engage in all the time. Generalization though it may be, girls are allowed to be shy in ways that boys are not. But my introversion is so overwhelming that it may not matter.


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Kirsteneklund7


                   Do I wish I was born CIS ? Well I dearly wish I could become CIS female but that cant happen, so as a realist I'm going for the next best option - trans-woman. As a father & uncle I am quite maternal. I strongly  suspect if I had been born CIS female I would have had a good life and be a wife and mother now - something I believe is the best thing anyone can be. Trouble is if I was CIS female I possibly wouldn't have the appreciation and admiration for females I have now. I do regret that I could never bear children and my offspring be so close and a part of me that only a mother can experience. I work with a fellow engineer who is a good friend and a CIS woman and she said her agenda will have to suffer because she will have to carry the babies. I explained she was looking squarely at the worlds greatest gift in this life & I explained as above. She smiled and took it on board.
As a realist in this life I believe we try to do the best with the cards we are dealt. I'm happy I was born male but I am a woman as well. I have to earn my femininity and really bask in it when I can.
                                     
                                     So THERE !
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