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How to refute religious arguments?

Started by AlexUABC, February 26, 2019, 04:30:21 PM

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Alice (nym)

You could always try this one: 
DANIEL 1:9
Now God had brought Daniel into favour and tender love with the prince of the eunuchs.

Not ideal, 'prince' but it might get them off your back. Still think Matthew is the way to go... if it is going to cause you to sin then cut it off.
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Andie1963

Quote from: AlexUABC on February 26, 2019, 04:30:21 PM
Since I have reason to use I have always felt that I am a girl trapped in the body of a child I have grown and although I tried to get this idea is inside me and I know that I am actually a woman but when telling my parents I always leave with his argument that "God made you man" "God is not wrong"
How can I rebut them?


Don't rebuke, just smile and say to them that God is in each and everyone of us. We are each his master pieces


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Chloe

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Quote from: AlexUABC on February 27, 2019, 02:52:17 PM. . . whether they accept me or not but I will not resent my whole life just because they say God is perfect.

@AlexUABC God IS perfect . . . and so are YOU so . . .

Just talk to Him . . . and let all those "religious fanatics" learn how to get over it!

From South America? You Catholic? Protestant heathens don't count but my Jesuit University, one of the most prominent in New England U.S.A, says "gender identity"  is AOK!
"But it's no use now," thought poor Alice, "to pretend be two people!
"Why, there's hardly enough of me left to make one respectable person!"
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Ann W

This will probably sound facile, but ...

Why bother? Seriously.
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Ricki Wright

I am not educated enough in scripture to argue with people who view it differently than I do. I would suggest speaking to a priest in a more accepting church (There are quite a few Christian churches LGBT friendly like Episcopalian).

You might argue that you feel God has given this life to you to ensure you learn something before going to heaven, or to perhaps test them to see if they really are living by God's laws.

I have linked a couple of videos below that may help from Ted Talks. I am not sure about linking rules, so I have also included the title for searching if they are removed.

Ricki

Why I chose my LGBTQ daughter over the Evangelical Church | Susan Cottrell | TEDxMileHigh


The Bible: A queer positive book | Rev. Dr. Cheri DiNovo | TEDxToronto
At 5 I forgot who I am. Fortunately, who I am protected me all these years until I remembered. Whatever else happens, I will live the rest of my life whole.
My story: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,244130.0.html
HRT 07Nov18
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F_P_M

My usual tactic?

"Do you believe women should be shunned to a shame hut for having a period?" "hve you ever eaten food prepared by a menstruating woman?" "do you shave?" "do you eat shellfish/pork?" "when was the last time you sacrificed a pigeon?"

I admit, i get peverse enjoyment out of quoting the various laws from leviticus at anyone who tries to use it as an excuse to be bigoted.

I mean, according to the bible, period sex is on par punishment wise as sleeping with your SISTER!
like seriously?

Also, Jesus preached love and acceptance and stated that it was only god's place to judge. Also if god didn't make mistakes why does disability exist and why is it okay to take medications for lifelong conditions, for illness, use mobility aids etc when it was apparently "gods plan" that this person couldn't walk or whatever too? Maybe it wasn't a mistake, but ultimately, mortals aren't supposed to understand the plans or thinking of gods.

Another thing I like to mention is that Pride is a deadly sin, and there's little more prideful than claiming you know god's will.

*smirk* That usually gets em pretty flustered.

Ultimately, proper christians don't need to be rebutted because they are good people. But those who need a good education well, I rather like showing that I have actually read the bible and probably have read more of it than THEY have. HAH.
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Bea1968

For those who would call my HRT into question and talk about Gods will and speak about my body being a temple that I spoil.  I would look out at any congregation and then ask the following:

Who colors their hair? What, you disagree with the hair God gave you?

Who has had botox ?

Who has hair plugs?

Who had liposuction ?

Who has a tattoo or piercing?

Who had a breast enlargement or reduction?

How about a tummy tuck or fanny lift?

How many wear glasses or contacts?

So who is left that has not done anything ?
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