Quote from: Rachael on April 22, 2008, 04:17:48 PM

and i want a straight bloke, because funnily, im a straight girl!

wheres the ridiculous in that?

For me there is none. However, there are people who would finish that sentence with 'because you are a gay-male who just wants to lure straight-guys.'

Now, THAT would be ridiculous wouldn't it?

What I was replying to was your presumption that I held a particular view due to particularly 'trans' reasons.

I've met trans men who were total ->-bleeped-<-s as well. And cis males, straight, who were simply fascinating and intelligent, to be desired if i had that desire.

But, a larger percentage of the trans men I do know are good guys than  is the percentage of cis guys I know. Voila, experience, not assumption.

N~ 

Certainly the experience of being born into a gender role that doesn't fit you will have consequenses on your personality, won't it? Even the country you're born in tends to affect how you act, so why not gender?

(Of course there's a difference between broad cultural tendencies and stereotypes.)

Re: What do you like and dislike the most about the opposite gender?

Men with BO...

Quote from: Berliegh on April 22, 2008, 05:22:18 PM
Re: What do you like and dislike the most about the opposite gender?

Men with BO...

ROFL    I second that!

tink

Quote from: Alyssa M. on April 22, 2008, 04:50:12 PM
Certainly the experience of being born into a gender role that doesn't fit you will have consequenses on your personality, won't it? Even the country you're born in tends to affect how you act, so why not gender?

(Of course there's a difference between broad cultural tendencies and stereotypes.)

Because i personally, and a lot of m2f women view the m2f are 'more feminine', 'more apreciative and desperate', and 'know how to pleasure a man, because we once were one'.

Those are thing that get said about m2fs, and has us all up in arm. I certainly dont think being trans makes me anything different to my peers. I just think one has to be careful when those statements are made thesedays... Innocent statements such as nicoles can end up sounding quiet offensive without thier intention.
R >

I'm female

LOVE about men: strength, courage, knowledge, physical ability, humor, rationality.
HATE about men: bossiness, control freak, super huge ego, selfishness, inability to communicate, lack of empathy, inflexible.

Quote from: Rachael on April 23, 2008, 01:20:14 AM
Innocent statements such as Nichole's can end up sounding quiet offensive without their intention.

Uh-huh. And I think that who hears what they 'sound' like makes a HUGE difference? For instance

"All women are sluts." I think that sounds and reads offensively. So do scads of women I know and have known. Yet, I have known a few women, one in a class I was in last night, who do believe that "we seduce men unfairly in order to use them, since men have such an uncontrollable sex-drive."

I'm pretty sure that she'd remove herself, her daughters and her mother from that all-encompassing dictum. So "All women but four are sluts!" I still find that offensive, maybe more than the other.

It wasn't what I said, Rach, it was the subtext you added to what I said that made the statement 'sound quite offensive.' A lot of innocent statements get 'heard' by others who have added their own peeves and prejudices to those statements. Not all the time, of course, but sometimes anyhow.

Question is, I suppose, if I am offended at the way I read something you write, but didn't mean the way I read it, do you still owe me an apology?  

N~

Female.

I dislike: How some men are just very unclean. Ugh! I hate messes and I hate people that just don't care of themselves!

I LOVE: The caring nature a man has for a woman. The way he holds her when she sleeps. *melt*

I'm gonna give it a go   

Male.

I like everythin 'bout gils but sometimes they gossip to much 

Guy here.

What I like about girls: Tend to be empathetic and truly caring (ie: more emotional focused, than physically focused). Don't display social aggression (ie: pick fights). Aren't afraid to wear their hearts on their sleeves. Can multi-task (oh...how I envy that). Usually smell sooooo good. Tend to be loyal to a fault. Sensuality... most women are just sexy and don't even TRY. Tend to have a vested interest in fairness for everyone. Oh...I like how most girls are neat/clean. I could ramble on here about all the little things I like...

What I dislike about girls: Tend to be bitchy/accusatory towards men (perhaps because of how some guys treat/treated them). Tend to be clingy (emotionally and physically). Wear too much make-up...lipstick is good, but anything else is BLEH. Tend to be afraid to be more dominant, sexually. The only ones that seem to hit on me are jailbait or old enough to be my mom. SHOPPING...I hate it.

In regards to the previous discussion about transguys and bioguys, I think there's definitely a difference, just as I think there's a big difference between transgirls and genetic girls. It's not that we're more masculine or feminine, but rather, our struggles with our own identities and our introspection has made us wiser/more mature, in my opinion, than your average genetic male or female. That's why I love transgirls...they've experienced things genetic girls have not and they've learned from it and had to overcome something most people never have to even think about. They don't take life for granted. It makes them a stronger person and that's definitely a very attractive trait for any woman to have. All in my opinion, of course.

I'm a girl.

Where to begin.... I like how physically strong men are, I like the physical differences, but I also like when men treat me like a woman.  I also love the way that men are built, their shoulders... the way that their center of gravity gives them a little spring in their walk, and also the way that men tend to easily forgive the little things.

I don't like when some men presume to be in control when in fact they're more scared than I am.  I don't like when some male clerks assume that I don't know anything about car parts, sports, and the like just because I'm a woman.

I don't like when some male clerks assume that I don't know anything about car parts, sports, and the like just because I'm a woman.

I always find that not only annoying, but pretty out-of-it.  I know a few girls who love their cars, and lots of women are into sports.  Basketball in particular, but I know a few baseball nuts and several girls who love the NFL, or NASCAR.  Title IX not only produced a generation now of outstanding female jocks, its created a lot of fans too.

Female. 

I like men because they are men most importantly for their chivalry, their physical strength, their desire to "rescue" me.

I don't like men when they get violent towards women.

I'll say female (M2F):

What I like about males

• Fixing things that are broke
• Being in control of most things as long as you're not a jack-ass.

What I dislike about males (This is why I don't use the men's room anymore)
All the posters make good points.

• They rape women when they say "no"
• Homicidal tendencies
• Lack of respect for women--I know some men that do that.
• Acting like jackasses.
• baggy clothes, but I vomit if their "butt crack" is exposed.
• bossiness
• control freak
• selfishness
• inability to communicate
• lack of empathy

But on the other hand, I might as well what I like about F2M's...

What I like about F2M's

• The strength and courage that he was one a woman
• Physical appearance

What I dislike about F2M's (That makes me sad)

• The male voice, usually

# bossiness
# control freak
# selfishness

Sounds a lot like most of my male friends 'exs also.

By the way, I know lots of girls who can fix things, and most guys I know can't.

QuoteI don't like when some male clerks assume that I don't know anything about car parts, sports, and the like just because I'm a woman.

What I do not like about clerks is that they know very little about what they sell. That is why they are only clerks.

im a dude.

what i like about girls:
curves
legs that go on forever
(generally) more accepting of differences

what i dont like:
(sometimes) bitchy
scary as hell when mad
stupid head games

Quote from: Ava Nieves on February 11, 2009, 06:08:20 PM
I'll say female (M2F):

What I like about males

• Fixing things that are broke
• Being in control of most things as long as you're not a jack-ass.

What I dislike about males (This is why I don't use the men's room anymore)
All the posters make good points.

• They rape women when they say "no"
• Homicidal tendencies
• Lack of respect for women--I know some men that do that.
• Acting like jackasses.
• baggy clothes, but I vomit if their "butt crack" is exposed.
• bossiness
• control freak
• selfishness
• inability to communicate
• lack of empathy

But on the other hand, I might as well what I like about F2M's...

What I like about F2M's

• The strength and courage that he was one a woman
• Physical appearance

What I dislike about F2M's (That makes me sad)

• The male voice, usually

So are f2ms a different sex to male?
and why is them sounding like guys a bad thing? and thier physical apearance is different?

thats like saying someone likes m2fs because they sound like men, they dont pass, and they were once men... I dont quite feel that sentiment is.... erm, fair... here.

and WOW... half the bad things about guys?

They rape women if they say no? a minority
they are disrespectful to woman? a minority

bossyness? controll freak? only as much as either sex.
homicidal tendancies? um, ok...

Quote from: lisagurl on February 11, 2009, 07:27:05 PM
What I do not like about clerks is that they know very little about what they sell. That is why they are only clerks.

why put the effort into knowing? not like anyone's going to thank you or think better of you for it.

Actually they will....

precicely the attitutde aluded to though, thanks for an awesome example Pika.